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[Thief1987]

 

[Kilau]

X3.2m

 

[Dr_Ifto]

3.2m is still respectable, and keeps them in the game. I expect this year to be solid for them.

Edit: meant to be facetious....

 

[Tsaki]

2.2 times more in favor of PS5. And this must be much higher for Q1 of this year.

 

[Sanepar]

With these data they probably are not even in 20 million yet.

 

[KungFucius]

Ouch. Still, lots of PC gamers have access to everything day 1 and don't have to buy a system for it.

 

[JokerMM]

That's a big ass fucking yikes from me dawg
But I imagine the difference was always this big in every generation except for the 360/PS3 gen no?

 

[Shambala]

 

[keraj37]

XBOX: "Quality over quantity"...
SONY:???

 

[kikkis]

Honestly I expected worse.

 

[Salty Popsicle]

Considering many people on this forum were betting on PS5 outselling Xbox Series X/S by 3-to-1 or even 4-to-1, this doesn't seem so bad. This about par course for every generation that these two brands have competed against each other, the only anomaly being the 8th console generation where Xbox 360 punched above its weight.

 

[jm89]

Considering many people on this forum were betting on PS5 outselling Xbox Series X/S by 3-to-1 or even 4-to-1, this doesn't seem so bad. This about par course for every generation that these two brands have competed against each other, the only anomaly being the 8th console generation where Xbox 360 punched above its weight.

This is shipped.

And we have NPD numbers to show the xbox poor performance on actual sales to consumers last year in the USA.

 

[RyanEvans21]

Considering many people on this forum were betting on PS5 outselling Xbox Series X/S by 3-to-1 or even 4-to-1, this doesn't seem so bad. This about par course for every generation that these two brands have competed against each other, the only anomaly being the 8th console generation where Xbox 360 punched above its weight.

Shipped not sold though

 

[Mr Hyde]

Solid numbers. Given how MS execs have been behaving during this whole Acti-Blizz ordeal you'd think they shipped 10 consoles this year.

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

Considering many people on this forum were betting on PS5 outselling Xbox Series X/S by 3-to-1 or even 4-to-1, this doesn't seem so bad. This about par course for every generation that these two brands have competed against each other, the only anomaly being the 8th console generation where Xbox 360 punched above its weight.

That 3-1/4-1 expectation is over the course of the generation. Not just a year.

And this is exactly how it's supposed to look if, by the end of the generation, there is a 3-1ead over Xbox.

 

[Draugoth]

You can really beat the Playstation 5 numbers with what Series S/X advertises.

But still very solid numbers.

 

[Tripolygon]

This is what happens when you design better hardware and secure production plus demand = more sales.

 

[Robb]

I guess I’m jaded when it comes to MS, 3.2M was honestly quite a bit higher than I would’ve guessed.

 

[Matt_Fox]

Looks like those armchair experts who claimed PS5 was supply-constrained in 2022 but Xbox was freely available have just been proved wrong.

 

[killatopak]

They always leave out Nintendo.

 

[Topher]

Considering many people on this forum were betting on PS5 outselling Xbox Series X/S by 3-to-1 or even 4-to-1, this doesn't seem so bad. This about par course for every generation that these two brands have competed against each other, the only anomaly being the 8th console generation where Xbox 360 punched above its weight.

There were also people on this forum saying this wouldn't be like last gen as far as sales are concerned, but it is looking fairly similar to me.

 

[Gambit2483]

 

[Ulysses 31]

How much did Nintendo ship?

 

[Three]

Guys, keep in mind that this is MS being MS.

They picked GOW:R release quarter where they (MS) had literally nothing for the entire year to try and show a large gap and how they are a victim. They have sales for the entire year and cumulative and just refuse to show it.

This is the specific quarter they are using only

God of War Ragnarok drives $9.6bn quarter for PlayStation

Sony has unveiled its financial results for the three months ended December 31, 2022 – which is its Q3 for FY2022 – wit…

www.gamesindustry.biz

 

[Robb]

How much did Nintendo ship?

8.22M from what I can tell.

 

[Pelta88]

“The business is not how many consoles you sell." - Phil Spencer


Now I understand the 180 pivot in how Xbox measures success.

 

[mckmas8808]

“The business is not how many consoles you sell." - Phil Spencer

He didn't actually say that did he?

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

Looks like those armchair experts who claimed PS5 was supply-constrained in 2022 but Xbox was freely available have just been proved wrong.

So you are suggesting that Xbox selling 3.2M is because they didn't have more consoles to sell?

So that's the sword you wanna throw yourself on?

 

[Belthazar]

I thought the difference this gen would decrease... Not the contrary.

 

[Corndog]

That's a big ass fucking yikes from me dawg
But I imagine the difference was always this big in every generation except for the 360/PS3 gen no?

Not quite. I think this is worse . Xbox needs to fire some people and turn things around before it is too late.

 

[Pelta88]

He didn't actually say that did he?

Xbox boss: ‘The business is not how many consoles you sell’ | VGC

“The business is selling software and services…

www.videogameschronicle.com

 

[Gobjuduck]

Great numbers considering the Xbox has had no impactful games.

 

[DenchDeckard]

That's a solid number against sonys gargantuan sales and god of war.

No where near as bad as some were projecting.

 

[mckmas8808]

That's a solid number against sonys gargantuan sales and god of war.

No where near as bad as some were projecting.

You realize that's 69% to 31%, right?

 

[Matt_Fox]

So you are suggesting that Xbox selling 3.2M is because they didn't have more consoles to sell?

So that's the sword you wanna throw yourself on?

I'm not throwing myself on any sword! But it's interesting to see that Sony actually shipped twice as many PS5 during the famously 'supply constrained' year - it's a rather different narrative than many Gaffers were expecting, Sony were better supplied than Microsoft.

For all we know BOTH Microsoft and Sony could have sold significantly more if supply hadn't been challenging.

 

[amigastar]

Ouch. Still, lots of PC gamers have access to everything day 1 and don't have to buy a system for it.

Shh, don't give them ideas. I'm so happy they release everything on PC now also. There were times when there wasn't like this.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Damage control already in this thread.

 

[Nydius]

Makes me wonder what those numbers would look like if they only had the Series X.

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

I'm not throwing myself on any sword! But it's interesting to see that Sony actually shipped twice as many PS5 during the famously 'supply constrained' year - it's a rather different narrative than many Gaffers were expecting, Sony were better supplied than Microsoft.

For all we know BOTH Microsoft and Sony could have sold significantly more if supply hadn't been challenging.

Ok... well MS made a declaration that they have heard gamers and supply would be sorted. So lets see what happens for the rest of the year.

 

[mckmas8808]

Makes me wonder what those numbers would look like if they only had the Series X.

This is a really good thought. Imagine if it's 50-50. You'd have 7.1 million PS5s vs. 1.6 million Xbox Series Xs. That's bananas!!!

 

[DavJay]

Number released because they want to show the FTC that they will not be a monopoly after merger

 

[mrmustard]

Considering day 1 pc ports + xCloud not too shabby.

 

[ChiefDada]

Remember when a certain group of people were upset/in denial about this forecast?

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/ps5-will-outsell-xbox-series-consoles-2-to-1-this-year-ampere-analysis-forecasts.1628256/

 

[Nydius]

This is a really good thought. Imagine if it's 50-50. You'd have 7.1 million PS5s vs. 1.6 million Xbox Series Xs. That's bananas!!!

Indeed, and I think the split might actually be closer to 66/33 because for a very long time after launch it was difficult to find Series X consoles but Series S were regularly in stock. My local Walmart never really had an issue stocking Series S systems since launch, but it wasn't until late last year that they regularly had Series X available. That plus the price difference? I wouldn't at all be surprised if the Series S makes up two thirds or more of the total Xbox Series install base.

 

[MarkMe2525]

Not bad for Xbox. Great for PS5

 

[MarkMe2525]

He didn't actually say that did he?

He sure did, but Xbox business model isn't the same as Sony's or Nintendo's. His business also feeds their PC platform.

Now, I don't know how they are doing with that as I'm not familiar with their steam, windows store, nor gamepass revenues.

Edit: whoops, double post

 

[onQ123]

Honestly I expected worse.

You expected worse in Q4? Black Friday & Christmas with the cheapest console on the market?

 

[Fart Knight]

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Do we know how does this compare with Xbox One (same quarter in its respective lifespan)?

 

[Heisenberg007]

FYI -- this is exactly in line with my calculations.

According to which, Microsoft is selling roughly 8.5-9 million consoles every year. On the contrary, Sony is selling ~24 million PS5s every year now.

That's a ratio of 3:1.