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Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)

Do you believe the deal will be approved?


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DryvBy

Member
To everyone say ms will make cod exclusive in 24/25, you are absolutely mental.

Just like Minecraft, there is ZERO chance they'd leave that kind of change on the table let alone face the backlash.

COD is here to stay and stay multiplatform at that!
Don't worry, I've done some calculations and from my scientific discovery that if MS can money hat COD and other franchises like Diablo, they'll manage to make them all less enjoyable and the quality will be very much that of Phil's favorite number: 6/10.
 
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aries_71

Junior Member
I’m behind on this but is the main hurdle in this the CMA not FTC? Because if judge favors Microsoft which is likely wouldn’t that still be the main issue here?
Good question... but if the CMA was such an impossible obstacle to overcome, would MS had spent any energy on the FTC trial? Would the CEO of a multi-trillion corporation go personally testify on a trial when all is lost? I don't know, I think GAF may be simplifying things when it comes to the CMA godly power.
 

DryvBy

Member
FTC got eviscerated on day 5. Stilling thinking this will some how get blocked and you FTC/Sony getting the W.
Sony doesn't win. It's gamers. Even Xbox gamers are going to win because some bozo like Phil Spencer won't be in charge of any Activision games and ruin them. They just spent a week telling us all how absolutely awful they are at making games. Phil doesn't even believe in making great games.
 
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X-Wing

Member
Good question... but if the CMA was such an impossible obstacle to overcome, would MS had spent any energy on the FTC trial? Would the CEO of a multi-trillion corporation go personally testify on a trial when all is lost? I don't know, I think GAF may be simplifying things when it comes to the CMA godly power.

Probably. Winning over the FTC may be a strong argument for the CAT appeal. They probably want to prove that it’s only the U.K. that has a problem with the merger.
 

Bojanglez

The Amiga Brotherhood
Probably. Winning over the FTC may be a strong argument for the CAT appeal. They probably want to prove that it’s only the U.K. that has a problem with the merger.
Well that's been disproved already hasn't it? UK, EU, AUS, NZ and CAN have all had problems with the merger, just some (one I think) has accepted remedies to their concerns.
 
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Banjo64

cumsessed
Sorry but I just don't buy this.

You're posting here, on an enthusiast board. You're posting in this thread which concerns only the business side of the so called "side thing" in your life. You have well over 2000 posts here in less than a year.

If you're here with your level of activity it's serious enough. So what's the deal?

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Banjo64

cumsessed
Thank you, but there is no source, just someone saying “oh” MS said this, regarding Minecraft Dungeons.

@DeepEnigma
I was wanting a transcript or proof this was stated in court. As we can all say this and that and take stuff out of context.

I think the source material should be linked with stuff being passed as fact. That way no one can dispute it nor take it out of context.

To many threads using tweets as facts (from random folk) without any source material popping up.

Edit: spelling, wording.
I heard this live and am amazed no journalists picked up on it and made it a headline.

Clear as day, I also made commented in the thread as soon as I heard it because it’s a bombshell as far as I’m concerned.
 
I'm not sticking around long, I just wanted to come in and apologize for my behavior yesterday. There's no valid excuse for it so I'm not even going to pretend there is.

It was immature and unwarranted.

I'm sorry to @Not_A-Cop_Maybe and everyone else who saw my outburst in the thread.

You can always come to me if you want a role model for proper forum etiquette
 

Bernardougf

Gold Member
ES6 is a given.
COD i dont know, but i would not bet against or for it.
Yeah and thats the thing... people come here and continues to support MS PR blatant lies and bullshit but in reality is all mouth ... if they had to put their ass on the line they wouldn't because they are not that stupid, just disingenuous, if there is one thing that all fans or not of Ms/xbox should take from this trial is that almost all that comes out of Phils Spencer mouth is/was bullshit

Win/loose this case to the ftc and cat, make the acquisition or not , fuck it, but from here now who the fuck is retarded enough to still believe anything MS PR mouths has to say about anything???

Just a thought experiment....
 
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Heisenberg007

Gold Journalism

Heisenberg007

Gold Journalism
Just had a look at that guys twitter and he's a wannabe options trader with replies full of florian Mueller and SenjutsuSage.

adamsapple adamsapple why are you wasting people's time?
I genuinely thought it was real and started researching, because that could have been a bombshell. Until I saw your post. Thanks!

The guy is a proper Xbox fanboy and this is just a new level of copium for him.





 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I genuinely thought it was real and started researching, because that could have been a bombshell. Until I saw your post. Thanks!

The CNBC segment the tweet is talking about is real.

He did not make it out of thin air.



Investors are focusing on that language and the possibility that Microsoft could have offered concessions in their comment period or that the final order may be different from the interim order, which may allow some leeway for Microsoft to close the deal, CNBC's David Faber said on Friday, citing people who are scrutinizing the court filings.

"It may point to some difference between the interim and final order and Microsoft's efforts to get it changed, giving it the leeway to perhaps even close the transaction while they still await word from the Competition Appeal Tribunal," Faber said.



GHG GHG keep chilling.
 
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Astray

Member
Wasn't that long ago that I was saying COD would stay multiplat because Phil Spencer promised over and over again. Now I just don't know. Too many lies have been exposed in all this. I won't be surprised by anything.
I said it a few months ago, I assume everything that guy says is a lie and I have zero illusion how he built his Gaben 2.0 image: Astroturfing.

And I imagine a lot of consumers will start thinking the same after this trial, hence my anticipation of a future " I'm spending more time with family" tweet. His credibility has been completely shot now.
 

tryDEATH

Member
Funny. Microsoft can't match Sony's offers, is that what you are saying?
They 100% can, but weren't willing to spend money like that before, which feeds into the argument that they weren't fully invested into Xbox financially like Sony was. However, there came a point recently were MS said "fuck you, watch me buy some shit now" and instead of going for singular games they decided to go after publishers not only for the IP's, but also developer studios.

Fanboys can't have it both ways by trashing Xbox for only having Halo, Forza, and Gears and then when they try to address it also try to trash them for buying too much and expanding their offering. That sort of duality just reeks of being a salty fanboy and it only gets worse when you have people moaning about how it isn't "organic growth" or how they should be developing their own studios from the ground, which sounds even more delusional and salty when PS didn't do it themselves, but expect MS to do it.
 

mrmustard

Banned
You guys also want to pretend that PS didn't go out of their way to keep games off Xbox by paying for exclusivity significantly more aswell.
I think they even pay much less, because they dominate the market and sell way more games than Microsoft. Let's just say 3rd party games sell usually 70:30 then Sony only has to compensate for 30% of the games and Microsoft for 70%. So i think Sony gets those deals much cheaper.
 
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splattered

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Topher saw the light in internal emails 😛

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I think Topher is smart enough to see that both Microsoft and Sony are master class bullshitters and lie to us day in and day out stabbing each other in the back constantly in hopes of winning their way into our wallets. So yeah, MS was obviously never the good guy but that doesn't mean I will ever "side" against them cause the grass is just as poisonous on the other side of the fence.
 

Topher

Gold Member
I think Topher is smart enough to see that both Microsoft and Sony are master class bullshitters and lie to us day in and day out stabbing each other in the back constantly in hopes of winning their way into our wallets. So yeah, MS was obviously never the good guy but that doesn't mean I will ever "side" against them cause the grass is just as poisonous on the other side of the fence.

More so I think all of this solidifies the fact that these corporate suits only care about profits and stockholders, but yeah, personally, trust levels are at an all-time low for these corporations and their executives.

But also more and more reasons I do not favor of these corporations consolidating power like this regardless of if it is Microsoft or Sony.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?

Heisenberg007

Gold Journalism
Interesting point to note, CAT did not even consider Activision or Microsoft's responses before denying the CMA request (they say they got the MS/Acti responses too late anyway).
Well, that is Microsoft's fault. The regulatory bodies who want to block this acquisition just need to push it past the deadline.

But why did Microsoft wait until the very last day (day #30) to file an appeal to CAT? They should have done it in the first few days and then they may have got the hearing before July 18.
 

Heisenberg007

Gold Journalism
So the CMA's argument for filing a postponement is that they don't have the human resources available who were involved in this case:

"The CMA has not been able to instruct leading counsel with previous experience of this matter to appear at the substantive hearing. It has also encountered significant difficulty in obtaining suitable alternative representation but has sought to obtain representation to maintain the existing hearing date so far as practically feasible."
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Well, that is Microsoft's fault. The regulatory bodies who want to block this acquisition just need to push it past the deadline.

But why did Microsoft wait until the very last day (day #30) to file an appeal to CAT? They should have done it in the first few days and then they may have got the hearing before July 18.

I'm talking about their response to this delay request.


The Tribunal has done so
without considering submissions from Microsoft and Activision, which were
received very late (this is no criticism) on 28 June 2023. Had the Tribunal been
minded to adjourn, then clearly it would have been necessary to consider these
submissions. However, since the Tribunal has formed the clear view, on the
CMA’s material alone, that it would be contrary to justice and fairness to
adjourn, it is unnecessary to consider Microsoft’s (and Activision’s)
submissions and to waste time waiting for the CMA to reply to those
submissions. For that reason, this ruling has been made on the basis of the
CMA’s application and evidence alone
 

Heisenberg007

Gold Journalism
I'm talking about their response to this delay request.
Oh okay. I misread, as I was also reading the document in which the CAT says that it's already delayed quite a bit (hinting at the July 18 deadline).

The point still stands though. I do not understand why Microsoft file the CAT appeal on the very last day when they had made up their mind on the very 1st day the acquisition was blocked.
 

hlm666

Member
Oh okay. I misread, as I was also reading the document in which the CAT says that it's already delayed quite a bit (hinting at the July 18 deadline).

The point still stands though. I do not understand why Microsoft file the CAT appeal on the very last day when they had made up their mind on the very 1st day the acquisition was blocked.
They had 400 and whatever pages of the cma's ruling to go through and create their appeal and counter evidence and expert evidence. During one of these cat hearings a cma lawyer said something like we need more than 4 weeks and the judge said you only gave microsoft 4 weeks and this is also your findings so you should be familiar with them. Microsoft probably would have liked more than 4 weeks but they had 4 and had to manage.
 

Thirty7ven

Banned
I think Topher is smart enough to see that both Microsoft and Sony are master class bullshitters and lie to us day in and day out stabbing each other in the back constantly in hopes of winning their way into our wallets. So yeah, MS was obviously never the good guy but that doesn't mean I will ever "side" against them cause the grass is just as poisonous on the other side of the fence.

#SonyToo
 

tryDEATH

Member
Fine......who is saying this stuff? Quote them so we can all see what point was being made. Just throwing out this "you guys" tribal nonsense is just as much bullshit as anything else.
Now you're acting willfully ignorant. The amount of times I have read from PS folks the excuse that a game didn't ship on Xbox because it doesn't sell well, it has no audience, Xbox gamers don't play those games all at as legitimate reason why a game didn't ship on Xbox is where that BS originates as a sort of veil that is meant to make the exclusivity as acceptable and turn it almost into a non-exclusivity but shift it onto a developer decision.

The amount of times I have had to read about SFV not shipping on Xbox because its not were the competitive scene is so why ship it to Xbox or how fighters period aren't popular on Xbox in an attempt to disguise the actual Sony exclusivity. If you haven't read those comments I can't do anything for you. Its these sort of comments that are suppose to obscure the practice.
 

DrFigs

Member
There's plenty of them that act willfully ignorant when it comes to that particular subject trying to obfuscate between PS paying for the exclusivity and the developer "not wanting" to ship on Xbox, which is pure BS.
It was just frustrating when the ps plus contract thing was leaked and everyone was saying how anti competitive it is that sony blocks these games from coming to gamepass, but didn't have two braincells to rub together to figure out why some games that are day one on xbox gamepass never come to ps plus or playstation at all. It's annoying and dishonest because I can't work out who's actually retarded and who's only pretending.
 
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