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Starfield | Review Thread

What scores do you think StarfieId will get?

  • 40-45%

    Votes: 3 0.5%
  • 45-50%

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 50-55%

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • 55-60%

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 60-65%

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 65-70%

    Votes: 2 0.3%
  • 70-75%

    Votes: 5 0.8%
  • 75-80%

    Votes: 15 2.3%
  • 80-85%

    Votes: 81 12.5%
  • 85-90%

    Votes: 241 37.3%
  • 90-95%

    Votes: 243 37.6%
  • 95-100%

    Votes: 55 8.5%

  • Total voters
    646
  • Poll closed .

Macaron

Banned
Holy shit dude. It’s almost like I know what kind of games I like. Crazy, right?
What does this even mean? "I can come in here and talk about how amazing Starfield is without having played a second cause I know its my type of game". You don't see how ridiculous that sounds at all huh? Guess its completely impossible for this genre or Bethesda to produce anything less right? Imagine saying this shit after playing Morrowind but before Fallout 76 came out? Lmfao
 
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Zathalus

Member
Because Starfield was being held up as being the saviour of Xbox, which was always a patently absurd stance to take when it's not exclusive to the platform.

Also: I mentioned "systems" because those 4 games listed by OP are obviously PS-exclusives so therefore the OP was obviously tinged with implied reference to platforms.
Final Fantasy and Horizon were heavily touted as near certain GotY and 90+ titles as well. Getting 88 doesn't by itself mean any of those games were mediocre. Although they might be depending on your personal gaming taste, but that can apply to a 96 title as well.

Can you be disappointed that Starfield didn't get a 90+? Sure. Does it make sense to claim it's mediocre based on a 88? No.

None of the games you mentioned had the weight of an entire platform on their shoulders. Starfield did. It's unfortunate and it's not right... But that was the reality facing the XB platform due to years of neglect.

And in that instance an 80.whatever simply doesn't suffice.
I'm not going to play "weight of an entire platform", I'm going to play Starfield. Which by almost all accounts is a great game.

I'm sure a ton of people are sad it's not going to be the game to proclaim Phil as the future son of god. That really doesn't matter when you judge the game on its own merits.

88/100 means a great game in aggregate, personal enjoyment will of course vary.
 
Even if that were true, why should what it was being held up as have any bearing on the quality of the game?
I just find such abysmal falls from grace compelling watching to be perfectly honest and I saw it coming from a mile away... that the game was getting hyped to high-heaven from a select group while everyone else was yawning.

It's hilarious how some people are painting an 88 as some kind of great achievement here from a game in development for 8+ years and from a studio/pub that cost MS almost $8B to acquire instead of being realistic that the score achieved here is far, far below expectations for a game so hyped.
 
I said it before that MS needed anything above 90+ to consider it a BIG win.

An 87/100 score is extremely good, but the hype for this game was extremely high for a lot of people waiting on a high review score.
 
It has to be weighed against expectations. People were expecting Starfield to score 90+ and be a serious contender for GOTY. That it scores 87 is fine but quite a bit below expectations which is a disappointment. If Baldur's Gate had scored an 88, nobody would call it a disappointment because no one was expecting it to be as good as it is.
It’s much like Spider-man in 2018 running against God of War and RDR2.
 
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Topher

Gold Member
I think if the game forced you to traverse the system, it would be very tedious. I suppose the middle ground is to at least have the option, but then you'd have to spend time to create and implement systems that a fraction of your player base would actual enjoy.

Perhaps. Personally I think it would have added to the immersion, but doesn't matter now. Hopefully I'll be able to get into space in tonights gaming session and have a better idea how it works. But it sounds like it may take a few hours before that happens in the game.
 

SpiceRacz

Member
Is this game being weighted on the scale of 'average'? That's not what I've seen.

It is currently the #32(PC) and #33(Xbox) rated games of the year on metacritic, right in-between Diablo IV and FFXVI, what's the general consensus of those games?

Fact is, Microsoft was calling this one of the most important games ever made this past E3, this place, and the whole internet were rabid with hype, and people were expecting something incredible. Not the 30th best reviewed game of the year. Now we can all play it and decide for ourselves. But an 86 for Armored Core VI is much different than an 88 for the next giant Bethesda RPG, 20 years in the making. Completely ignoring the context seems pointless, it's a huge part of the narrative.

None of the points you made change what an 88 rating means. That's still outstanding. To be disappointed by that is silly.
 
None of the points you made change what an 88 rating means. That's still outstanding. To be disappointed by that is silly.
Different games have different expectations. If GTA 6 was rated a 88 everybody would be disappointed. Starfield didn't quite have those expectations, but they were expected to contend for GOTY alongside TOTK and BG3. An 88 doesn't do that
 
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RyRy93

Member
There is such negativity that if someone hadnt looked the scores, he would think you are talking about a game in the 60's or something.

Also, typical brain behavior....people always fixate on the points of the reviewer which gave the lowest score..not only.that..they treat the lowest score as point of reference, accusing all other reviewers that gave the game a better score.
There wouldn’t be so much negativity if this game wasn’t so hyped up over the last 5/6 years or so and hailed as Xbox’s saviour.
For BGS to make nothing for 8 years and then release a game that’s not even a GOTY contender is kind disappointing.
 
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Pelta88

Member
I'm not going to play "weight of an entire platform", I'm going to play Starfield. Which by almost all accounts is a great game.

I'm sure a ton of people are sad it's not going to be the game to proclaim Phil as the future son of god. That really doesn't matter when you judge the game on its own merits.

88/100 means a great game in aggregate, personal enjoyment will of course vary.

88 is a fantastic score. Anyone claiming otherwise is trolling...

But there's a broader conversation that's been happening since the game was announced. A lot of that conversation has been captured right here on gaf. To ignore that conversation is to stick your head in the sand. Starfield being rated as the 7th best game on XBOX behind The Witcher and Street Fighter simply doesn't live up to the unfair expectations placed, largely by XB guys, on the ip

I've spoken about this at length. 87 is a fantastic score.
 
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yazenov

Member
The hope for some MS comeback with a 95+ game such as Zelda to boost sales momentum shattered.

The game is good but not great according to reviews. It's not what MS or their fans are expecting after the drought quality 1st party games. It's game over for any "comeback".
 

Gudji

Member
The hope for some MS comeback with a 95+ game such as Zelda to boost sales momentum shattered.

The game is good but not great according to reviews. It's not what MS or their fans are expecting after the drought quality 1st party games. It's game over for any "comeback".
Don't worry there's always next year.
 

FlyyGOD

Member
Have fun to those who pre ordered the constipation edition…or was it constellation? Whatever have fun dudes! From Todd with love ❤️
lewd michael scott GIF
Someone sounds salty
 

Cashon

Banned
The fact that you use menus to traverse
Again, that doesn't make it "shitty." It's just not what you would want it to be. Shitty would be that you use menus to traverse and then it sends you to the wrong location, or takes actual light-years to get you there.

I wasn't very interested in the game until these reviews came out, and my opinion changed because I'm glad that I can just zip to where I want to go via menus. Obviously all of this is subjective, but I feel like people use extremes too much these days. There are many more words out there that can describe how you feel about the system that don't basically suggest the worst of the worst.
 

Dr_Salt

Member
idk, watching youtube reviewres, DF, and most of the other reviews from sites other than the big 3, it just seems like there is something off with those couple of reviews in the 70s. I thought it was going to be nearly impossible for anything to topple BG3 in my mind, but mid 70s when everyone else has it higher just makes me wonder if there's some reaction to how the UK review sites were excluded from preview codes.
Did it topple BG3 tho?
 

Bkdk

Member
The copy and paste dungeons are rather ridicolous as well, the game is in full development for 8 years and even just hand craft dungeons they should have easily produce 500+ hand crafted dungeons and not copy and paste so many of them. Seems like it's even worse than oblivion in this regard which is pretty insane.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Have fun to those who pre ordered the constipation edition…or was it constellation? Whatever have fun dudes! From Todd with love ❤️
lewd michael scott GIF

The hope for some MS comeback with a 95+ game such as Zelda to boost sales momentum shattered.

The game is good but not great according to reviews. It's not what MS or their fans are expecting after the drought quality 1st party games. It's game over for any "comeback".


oh boy, the crazies are truly out in full force now.
 
Again, that doesn't make it "shitty." It's just not what you would want it to be. Shitty would be that you use menus to traverse and then it sends you to the wrong location, or takes actual light-years to get you there.

I wasn't very interested in the game until these reviews came out, and my opinion changed because I'm glad that I can just zip to where I want to go via menus. Obviously all of this is subjective, but I feel like people use extremes too much these days. There are many more words out there that can describe how you feel about the system that don't basically suggest the worst of the worst.

It's not shit because it's menu based. It's shit because their failed attempt at a space sim is menu based. That make more sense?
 
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BennyBlanco

aka IMurRIVAL69
What does this even mean? "I can come in here and talk about how amazing Starfield is without having played a second cause I know its my type of game". You don't see how ridiculous that sounds at all huh? Guess its completely impossible for this genre or Bethesda to produce anything less right? Imagine saying this shit after playing Morrowind but before Fallout 76 came out? Lmfao

Idk what it is youre struggling with here.

Developer I like ✅
genre I like ✅
Largest mod community in games ✅
Good reviews from reviewers I trust ✅

I will be playing this for a while. Also fo76 isn’t a BGE game.
 

Elios83

Member
Imagine thinking 88 is a bad score lol
That's what many people said about FFXVI just two months ago:messenger_grinning_sweat:

88 is a great score per se.
But expectations and context play an important role.
This game was supposed to be the big gun out of a 7 billions acquisition and it was expected by many to be a new Skyrim moment made exclusive to push the whole Microsoft ecosystem (subscriptions, consoles..).
It doesn't seem it will be that, just a good game ala Fallout 4.
 
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Montauk

Member

That’s not evidence. Different people like different things. That’s 5 different editors, 5 different authors.

Why do you guys waste your time on nonsense like this?

Why would whoever reviewed this at IGN US decide to drop it by a point or two because some UK outlets didn’t get a review code? Why?

It’s just bizarre that you can’t process that different critics hold different opinions because they’re just people and people disagree.
 
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Macaron

Banned
Idk what it is youre struggling with here.

Developer I like ✅
genre I like ✅
Largest mod community in games ✅
Good reviews from reviewers I trust ✅

I will be playing this for a while. Also fo76 isn’t a BGE game.
I'm struggling with you heaping praise on a game you haven't played one second of. You're literally out here like "its Bethesda and there are some good reviews, let me hop on the internet and talk about how much I love this game!" lol its pretty funny but do you I guess
 
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