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[Mr.ODST]

I've cancelled mine, dont use Extra that much as the library isn't that great and only play Destiny 2 etc online

 

[SidViscous]

You think they'll ever try to make PS+ a requirement for playing the PC versions online or cross-play?

 

[Dr.Morris79]

The 160 is like 13 a month if you can't afford that I dunno what else to tell ya. That's not that expensive.

 

[Skifi28]

They normally perform better than these consoles and the investment lasts for years. You don't need to buy a pro console upgrade every 3 years and also pay 120 dollars a year to play online and rent free games.

Not entirely true. Almost every recent port I can think of has been a disaster and the only reason some people get a playable game is because they brute-force it with top of the line hardware.

If you can get a 4090 with a ryzen 3d you'll probably be ok, but I doubt most people coming from a console will jump to that class of hardware. As for the longevity.... It depends. If you want to keep playing all the modern games at a decent framerate, I'm already starting to see CPU issues and I have a rather recent 11600.

There are plenty of reasons to go PC, but price and performance are currently not the best ones. Depending on your budget you might have been better off staying with a console.

 

[drezz]

I bought a Year, and then Canceled it.

Just soo I be playing both sides.

 

[midnightAI]

In 2026, my sub will lapse and I will not renew it.

Get wrecked Sony

I think to really show them how much you are really annoyed about this you should phone them up directly and tell them to cancel the subscription right now.

 

[Jormatar]

I cancelled mine but I know I will be back eventually. Sony probably knows it too.

 

[Liamario]

I don't use it enough to justify the current price, needless the say my auto renewal has been disabled and I don't forsee resubscribing as the service currently stands

 

[Johnny Concrete]

Done.

I’ll be back to Essential once a game releases that I want to play and demands it.

 

[nightmare-slain]

You think they'll ever try to make PS+ a requirement for playing the PC versions online or cross-play?

They might try but no way in hell will any PC players put up with it.

 

[rofif]

I am not paying 80 fucking euro to be able to summon help in Elden ring. I don’t use any other features of essential. Only most basic of online play which should be free

 

[SenkiDala]

The 160 is like 13 a month if you can't afford that I dunno what else to tell ya. That's not that expensive.

To be honest I perfectly agree. The thing is they added no value to explain this increase. Big discounts on 1st party games, even on day one, trials versions of 1st party games, more games, full backcompat of PS2 games via streaming etc, anything would do.

But just "today you have this for 119€ a year, for no reason we will now increase the price to 151, and add no value, you're welcome" of course there will be backlash.

If you consider yearly sub though, Xbox Game Pass Ultimate is more expensive, if we talk about "official" subbing methods GPU is more expensive : 15€/month *12 = 179€, compared to the 151,99€ of PS+ Premium.

But yeah if you do some kind of manipulation, buying gold cards and coupling them with 1 month of GPU to convert them, etc, you'll get GPU cheaper but for how long ? Soon Gold cards won't be purchasable anymore so this day the only way to sub will be the 15€ monthly sub since MS don't have a yearly sub for this service.

 

[Bernoulli]

I think it's a different situation. This price increase will make many people actually reevaluate if they need PS+, especially if they play singleplayer games. It doesn't have to be an empty statement or a rash decision you'll regret 5 minutes later.

just look now everyone is paying premium edition that cost $40 more of games to have a few days of early access

majority won't care

 

[SenkiDala]

They might try but no way in hell will any PC players put up with it.

I like how PC community compare themselves as rebels, as the last warriors standing against capitalism, when they accepted to go to a "digital only" model with open arms (or asshole?) almost 2 decades ago, buying games they can't sell, etc.

(I've almost 900 games on steam ok but I am not pretending anything)

 

[Johnny Concrete]

just look now everyone is paying premium edition that cost $40 more of games to have a few days of early access

majority won't care

Majority doesn’t have to care. Even if a small percentage decides to go a tier lower or stop subscribing all together; Sony will feel it.

 

[Klosshufvud]

Playstation stopped being worthwhile like 10 years ago. Now it's just a running scam.

 

[TVexperto]

I DECLARE CANCELLATION OF MY PS PLUS SUB


...but until then it runs until 2025

 

[BennyBlanco]

Online gaming on consoles should be free.

Not "free", but free.

One of the greatest long running scams in the industry.

Locking cloud saves behind a sub is equally crazy IMO.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Can't disagree. And I say that as a staunch console gamer for thirty years.

Seriously considering my next gaming purchase to be a PC for couch play. The consoles (other than the Switch) really are beginning to seem more and more pointless as this generation unfolds.

I just got myself a second rig in a Fractal North case with a 7800x3d...just deciding on GPU. That will sit next to my tv and be a little more portable for my sim rig and Lans if I ever get back to going to them.

Pc is clearly the future. Even Japan is getting on board.

 

[Neofire]

I definitely do not like it. Sony should be ashamed of themselves but unfortunately some of my games are tied to PSN plus

 

[Rayderism]

I used to consider PS+ a companion service to the Playstation ecosystem, now it's like an annoying little brother who keeps getting into your shit.

 

[Banjo64]

And to be fair, who continues to play their years old saves?

I have in the past, on quite a few occasions.

For example, a lot of Sony’s own first party games require you to complete multiple play throughs for platinum trophies where your progress carries over.

I sometimes would leave the second play-through for a couple of years until my fatigue had worn off.

 

[Shifty1897]

I see a lot of "I would cancel but I'm stacked." Let me be clear on here, if you're stacked you can still turn off the "auto-renew" and enjoy your stacked years of PS+. Sony can absolutely see how many people turned off auto-renew after this announcement, it could affect decision making, you should do it.

I would argue that even people who intend on keeping PS+ should turn off auto-renew to send a message. You should really only re-up during a sale anyway and there's at least two a year.

The biggest thing right now is that people aren't aware. If you don't follow PlayStation religiously or aren't active on a video game forum, you have no idea this price hike is coming. They're hoping it will auto-renew and people will not even notice, or notice, get mad, and get over it, because what are you going to do, stop play CoD with the boys?

 

[Senua]

Locking cloud saves behind a sub is equally crazy IMO.

Console gamers ares are well accustomed to being gypped, I wonder what they'll do next!

 

[P:axMagellanic]

Every cunt out there is taking the piss with prices. Food+rent comes before any of this bollocks.

 

[P:axMagellanic]

Can't disagree. And I say that as a staunch console gamer for thirty years.

Seriously considering my next gaming purchase to be a PC for couch play. The consoles (other than the Switch) really are beginning to seem more and more pointless as this generation unfolds.

Look forward to Nvidia/AMD pulling your trousers down.

These bastards are all the same.

 

[VectorVictor]

My renewal date was Nov 2024. Just added another year for $60, renewal date in 2025 still showing $60...

Did you use PSN prepaid cards or do it through online? It won’t let me add more time for $59 U.S….

 

[thegame983]

I usually re sub during the christmas sale which I presume will come in @ €100 for extra.

For me to consider resubbing I need the following before then.

Marvels Midnight Suns
Dead Space Remaster
Yu-Long Fallen Dynasty

These are my terms.

 

[Beechos]

What happened to all the japanese honor and pride. This is shameful and dishonorable to do people like this.

 

[Shake Your Rump]

Good. Announce some fucking games and fuck off with the silence before you obnoxiously raise your price for no reason.

But they did announce a game! The price increase was mentioned waaaay at the bottom of their webpage announcing that Saints Row is the free game of the month!

 

[Thirty7ven]

Hope they lose 40% of the subscribers with this stunt.

Go fuck yourself Pig Ryan

 

[Shake Your Rump]

The 160 is like 13 a month if you can't afford that I dunno what else to tell ya. That's not that expensive.

I guess you forgot the part where we paid $500/650 for the console.

When we get PS6 and it is strictly a cloud-based subscription for $40 a month, I’m blaming people that had your attitude.

 

[nightmare-slain]

I like how PC community compare themselves as rebels, as the last warriors standing against capitalism, when they accepted to go to a "digital only" model with open arms (or asshole?) almost 2 decades ago, buying games they can't sell, etc.

(I've almost 900 games on steam ok but I am not pretending anything)

don't worry consoles will go there too. and honestly there's not much wrong with being digital only. anyway, PC is cheaper. if I had an Xbox i'd be paying £70 for the standard Starfield or £100 for premium. I bought Premium for £64 on PC. So any money I'd have got back from selling the game I've already saved.

At least on PC you have multiple stores so there is actual competition and no matter what store you use you don't need to pay for cloud storage, online, crossplay, etc.

i'm not saying PC gamers are "rebels" lol but the PC community definitely puts up with less bullshit. We have standards. Console players are told £70 for a game and you need to sub if you want to play online and they are happy with it. For anyone who wants to stand up against it.... the time to do that was 15 years ago. Too late!

 

[Reaseru]

As much as I hate to say this, Sony doesn't give a fuck about losing a few subscribers. Their stock just went up.

Sony Gains Most Since July After PlayStation Gaming Price Hike

Sony Group Corp. rose its most in more than a month after hiking the price of its core gaming PlayStation Plus subscription service by roughly a third, potentially shoring up its bottom line.

www.bloomberg.com

Well, not that i'm disagreeing with you, but they still didn't lose any of those subscribers yet, so they won't feel a lost of subs until the majority of all those renewals happen. Of course the stocks went up, the question is...how will the market react when they see all those subs of the people who decided to not renew, plummet?

 

[Akuji]

thanks for the thread. gave me the reminder i needed to cancel. just did so probably need to buy resogun now.

 

[MasterDerico]

More dependence, more scam.
Fuck Multiplayer
Fuck Sony PS+

 

[StereoVsn]

Canceled mines and know of at least 2 others that Canceled there's as well. Would be hilarious if Sony ends up losing 10% (or more) of subs over this bone head decision.

Pretty sure they are prepared for that. Lose say 10% of subs but hike prices 30%.

 

[Honey Bunny]

Good, paying monthly for online game servers is a complete scam

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Canceled as well (for now anyhow to join the mini protest)

 

[StereoVsn]

I like how PC community compare themselves as rebels, as the last warriors standing against capitalism, when they accepted to go to a "digital only" model with open arms (or asshole?) almost 2 decades ago, buying games they can't sell, etc.

(I've almost 900 games on steam ok but I am not pretending anything)

One big reason digital was accepted is due to how Steam Keys in particular (but mostly similar for GoG and say EA Play) can be purchased in multiple stores. Hence you have competition.

This is unlike console digital where games are mostly only available in PSN, Xbox or eShop stores.

Edit: Anyways, I have a sub till end of '24 since I got in on converted PS Now deal, but probably will just convert to Essential afterwards. Kids play some MP stuff on it occasionally.

 

[LostDonkey]

Remember when they tried charging a fee to play online if you purchased a used game. The backlash from that made them change that policy rapid.

I hate the practice of charging to play online but unless every single person cancelled we've got no choice but to.

 

[Matsuchezz]

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

It makes sense. The growth phase is over and now it is about monetizing the members. The subscription was always secondary to Playstation so as long as they believe the extra profits balance out the membership loss then it is fine. Sony wasn't going for the world domination angle and thus didn't need everyone to subscribe.

If you don't think it is worth it then don't pay, and Sony is fine with that. Playstation is running a gaming platform, not some cloud gaming fantasy.

 

[Bojanglez]

Never subscribe, buy in sale and stack only

 

[DaGwaphics]

They probably don't care about some losses as long as the total amount of revenue increases. Unfortunate, but that's just the way business goes.

 

[SenkiDala]

don't worry consoles will go there too. and honestly there's not much wrong with being digital only. anyway, PC is cheaper. if I had an Xbox i'd be paying £70 for the standard Starfield or £100 for premium. I bought Premium for £64 on PC. So any money I'd have got back from selling the game I've already saved.

At least on PC you have multiple stores so there is actual competition and no matter what store you use you don't need to pay for cloud storage, online, crossplay, etc.

i'm not saying PC gamers are "rebels" lol but the PC community definitely puts up with less bullshit. We have standards. Console players are told £70 for a game and you need to sub if you want to play online and they are happy with it. For anyone who wants to stand up against it.... the time to do that was 15 years ago. Too late!

Once against I'm not against PC gaming (hell I played 25 years on PC, I have 900 games on Steam) but I always thought it's funny this "huh, it won't pass on PC" when they accepted one of the biggest shift in the history of video games consumption.

I know console gaming will go there too.

About different stores yes but look how many (most of ?) PC gamers always have boycotted other stores just because they want everything at the same place : STEAM. The only other store that is successful is the Battle.net launcher since it's the only place to play those games (same goes with LoL / Fortnite etc).

As for paying to play online... Well personally I would not pay to play online, I pay a sub for GPU because of the games and on PS since the PS+ exists, you have games (GOOD games) monthly and this is why I subbed to that.

 

[Kings Field]

I’m gonna stay essential. I had a year of premium pretty much free when they did the conversion and that ran out a couple months ago so I just went essential for a year.

I’ll reevaluate it next year to see if it’s worth it.

 

[Pipoqueiro]

I had already returned to the normal one before the increase, now I don't go back to the extra-deluxe. and for online games I'm seriously thinking of buying only on steam

 

[StereoVsn]

Once against I'm not against PC gaming (hell I played 25 years on PC, I have 900 games on Steam) but I always thought it's funny this "huh, it won't pass on PC" when they accepted one of the biggest shift in the history of video games consumption.

I know console gaming will go there too.

About different stores yes but look how many (most of ?) PC gamers always have boycotted other stores just because they want everything at the same place : STEAM. The only other store that is successful is the Battle.net launcher since it's the only place to play those games (same goes with LoL / Fortnite etc).

As for paying to play online... Well personally I would not pay to play online, I pay a sub for GPU because of the games and on PS since the PS+ exists, you have games (GOOD games) monthly and this is why I subbed to that.

Different stores as you have dozens of shops selling Steam keys for different prices. Developers can generate keys for free. That's why nobody minds digital with Steam, plus great options for overall platform.

 

[Kupfer]

Pretty sure they are prepared for that. Lose say 10% of subs but hike prices 30%.

Edit:
The following calculation is wrong, I think this one would be accurate.

Spoiler: Brainfart

30% or in my region 26.67%, price increase cannot compensate for the loss of 10% of customers.


47million subs, all paying purely hypothetical for the highest tier, 119,99€ right now plus the increase of 26,67% in my region.

That'll be 7.143.592.651€ for Sony with all people paying the increased price.

If, like you said, 10% of the subscribers drop out and the remaining 90% of the players happily pay the increased price, Sony just gets 6.429.233.385€

7.143.592.651 - 6.429.233.385 = 714,359,266


714,359,266€ is a huge loss if only 10% drop out right now, even if the remaining 90% are still paying. That's more than the cost of a AAA game today.