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leaked Insomniac inclusivity training video

No, that's why things have to be put in an appropriate context. If an idea, group or whatever is being overrepresented,if those entities are then being excluded, hopefully the exclusion is not done out of negativity so other ideas, groups or whatever can get the appropriate amount of attention.


That sounds like complaining for the sake of complaining.

They'll never be excluded. Who else is going to portray the villians?
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Wait until you tell them about the palsetinian jews and christians. Boggles their mind.
The most popular man to ever live, was both. Though the latter out of his control.

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Varteras

Gold Member
Go to Sweeden
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Farewell, America. It's been fun. But I'm going to a place where the McDonald's women don't look like they eat half the food made there in a day. Sorry. I'm body shaming. I should be cheering them for how brave they are to slowly kill themselves and the very idea of them being naked used as a torture technique at Guantanamo Bay.

Yes, yes. I know. There are tons of beautiful women here. But not a single fast food restaurant I ever visited or worked at looked like every female was raised from birth to be someone's happy ending. Most seemed like a future punishment.
 
Farewell, America. It's been fun. But I'm going to a place where the McDonald's women don't look like they eat half the food made there in a day. Sorry. I'm body shaming. I should be cheering them for how brave they are to slowly kill themselves and the very idea of them being naked used as a torture technique at Guantanamo Bay.

Yes, yes. I know. There are tons of beautiful women here. But not a single fast food restaurant I ever visited or worked at looked like every female was raised from birth to be someone's happy ending. Most seemed like a future punishment.

Puerto Vallarta has sexiest girls in the world. Highly recommend
 

MCplayer

Member
Yeah
Keep buying and supporting those companies...
I will keep buying because their games are good, cant believe people are bothered by this lol, I haven't noticed how many white, black etc people are in spider man 2, I just cared for the story and gameplay, the ones bothered by this are the ones looking for it.
(Maybe alot of you would love the criminals in SM2 to be black or gay or whatever for you to finish them because you dont like them.)
But this is the internet anyway, not surprised by the amount of hate, everyone loved their games until this came out.

I don't give a fuck if you are white, black, gay, straight, thats the most racist idiot shit for one to care about and judge others.

Good for them for adding diversity into the game and guess what, if they didn't had any diversity I wouldnt give a shit either, I would still love their games, couldn't care less if Miles becomes the main spider man moving foward, if the transition is reasonable than I will accept it.

But I also gotta say this underrepresented shit also sounds fucking stupid. Is it really necessary to make such loudness about this jesus, I'm Black and couldn't care less for this.
This is like the writer and creative director want to make a "not white" character, but that ain't enough, so they have to make an "inspirational" video with interviews of such individuals just so the script gets accepted etc. Lol
 
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StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
I knew right away insomaniac got woke af after they made marry j look like 50yo marta kent from smallvile in spiderman2 , no1 sane believed they have no agenda, stud like peter parker with his physical features + being able to afford such a nice house would not chase some ugly hag, and not for one night stand but to plan future together =D

Funny thing is that not much earlier, in holidays 2020 spiderman remaster featured sexy and girly looking mj, ofc she had a temper, which woman doesnt tho ;P
all timestamped in the vid so usual woke crowd cant lie that its just different lighting/shadows/weird angle taken :p

Mary Jane looking manlier in each box.

Well, it makes sense. It's natural for people to create things based on themselves and what they want. That's why wokeish content always seems skewed to wokeish creatives at a desk. They are the writers and artists. So put pen to paper and that's what you get.

It's no different than any other kind of game. For those retro FPS dude bro shooters, I bet the creative team is made up of dude bro and twitchy game makers who grew up gaming in the Quake days. A devs team making a PC Civil War battle sim is going to have straightlaced game makers who enjoy sim and real life historical stuff so they can infuse that into the game. A game with lots of SJW and representation is going to have a department skewed to game makers with personalities that focus on demographics and race and gender swapping.
 
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Hunnybun

Member
I'm all for inclusivity and diversity in games but not at the expense of shitting on other groups in the process. Even more hilarious are those who proudly think making a product for some groups without caring about others is the same exact problem you went in to fix. Hell sometimes I don't think many of these people even want diversity so much as they want "more of me, less of you" in media. It's a gross double standard of sharing cultures (cultural appropriation), casting (I can be you, but you can't be me), and representation as a whole.

Again - I can't stress enough that diversity and inclusiveness in all media IS a great thing. A necessary thing, even. So let's actually be diverse AND inclusive.

I honestly think by far their biggest motivation is winding up the people they hate, Trump voters etc.

You only have to look at their faces to see how hateful they are.
 

sankt-Antonio

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This is wild.

But where it really hurt was in GoW Ragnarok, Sony/SMS just did my man Kratos dirty. They can be inclusive as much as they want, have gay themed side quests, poc etc. I don't care. But not at the expense of the actual hero of the game. If you have to downgrade and belittle man to elevate woman, you suck at storytelling.
 

Fredrik

Member
Farewell, America. It's been fun. But I'm going to a place where the McDonald's women don't look like they eat half the food made there in a day. Sorry. I'm body shaming. I should be cheering them for how brave they are to slowly kill themselves and the very idea of them being naked used as a torture technique at Guantanamo Bay.

Yes, yes. I know. There are tons of beautiful women here. But not a single fast food restaurant I ever visited or worked at looked like every female was raised from birth to be someone's happy ending. Most seemed like a future punishment.
Are you telling me the beaches in the US isn’t like in Baywatch? 🥺

Seriously though, it’s not like in that pic everywhere and during the winter it’s generally no fun up here in Santa land. But no joke, if games would look like the streets in scandinavia during summer it would be seen as problematic objectification and sexism. I don’t know if the trend is in the US too but yoga pants are the new jeans and women seemingly love to do squats and show off their gains. I’m far too old to get in on any fun though sigh
 

Shodai

Member
fucking clowns. stay out of politics and do your fucking job
I don't even look at this as politics - It's low-value fools bandwagoning because they see social weakness. Look at how awful once great media producers turnout has been recently. Can't blame covid forever, the headcount has become rotten - Skilled labor is not something replaceable by feelings.

All they are really doing, besides ruining media, is hurting the actual people who truly were marginalized.
 
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DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Hard to say, they haven't had a new release since 2019 (and that game would've been in development since 2014). The world's gone a lot crazier since then, and we haven't seen much of GTA6 yet to really know.
If you mean RDR2, that was 2018.

Still going to be cautiously optimistic for GTA6, since Florida is a meme-trope haven. However, the changes they specifically made to the "definitive edition" trilogy history revision, gives a blow to that confidence.

And then there's this,
 
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StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
I'm "observing" this stuff from race homogeneous country, we don't really have race related problems (on big scale at least) but what I'm seeing happening in US and Western Europe is truly mind boggling. There was this "color blindness" approach at one point where person skin color wasn't considered meaningful in any way (as it shouldn't) - people should be judged based on their actions. This in my opinion is a correct way of thinking for multicultural society (like US). NOW, everything is about skin color and "race" (and gender lol), even segregation is returning and (some) people are happy about this, world is really fucked up right now.
Damned if you do, damned if you dont.

Racial ratio supporters can play it both ways, so it comes down to if you or your company gets targeted and focused on it, or if you/your company can fly under the radar.

1. If everyone is treated the same using the skin deep theory, it's discrimination if a minority doesn't get disproportionate special attention. Even odder is the forced focus on women when the population is already 50% women.

2. So the solution is affirmative action, racial ratios and PR to show the world minorities are in their own silo. That's actually segregation. So anyone can claim this is discrimination too.

Each point can have supporters and non-supporters pending what the narrative and goal is.

Figure that one out.
 
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I thought he was going to start the video off with "Hi, I'm Ted Price. I sold out to Sony for $200 million".

Never the less, his video is BS because if you look at the giant group of employees, he pruposely picked a few minorities and females at the front of the crowd. But the vast majority of his employees look like white guys.
when attempting to control your country's borders becomes racist?...
 

yanhash

Member
To be fair, they Fixed Miles hair and everybody whose profile is visible seems qualified enough, television companies do the same thing, and insomniac has been making great games so far, it's better than poorly written minority characters. The games are good, that's what matters.

But maybe this successful video game company should come to neogaf for "everyone's an expert" take
 
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Fredrik

Member
They are in certain places in Florida. Bet. Hell, I will take you to "strip clubs" here where they're lined with natural 8s, 9s, and 10s of all colors and creeds.


This too, by far.
Always seemed strange that a country that from the outside looks quite conservative regarding religion and tv nudity and swearing etc have those clubs that your average family man can go to for a drink. Actually I have no idea if that’s how it actually is, my only reference is Hollywood lol

Yeah gyms are nice these days 😏
 

NickFire

Member
But maybe this successful video game company should come to neogaf for "everyone's an expert" take
Every company should be looking closely at what average people are thinking.

Unless they aspire to lose countless millions like Disney’s recent movie line ups, their place at the top like Bud light, etc etc.
 

X-Wing

Member
To be fair, they Fixed Miles hair and everybody whose profile is visible seems qualified enough, television companies do the same thing, and insomniac has been making great games so far, it's better than poorly written minority characters. The games are good, that's what matters.

But maybe this successful video game company should come to neogaf for "everyone's an expert" take

Amen.
Certainly better than stereotypical characters that ridicule minorities. There is literally nothing wrong with what Insomniac is doing.
 

Faust

Perpetually Tired
Staff Member
How did this happen? We don’t need these kind of casualties, general.

Over 15 warnings, multiple bans, and numerous attempts to get him to cut back on the console warring. Instead, he continued to double and triple down on insults whenever anyone said anything critical to the console/company he preferred.

We try to be fair and give people a chance to improve, but there is a limit to how much rope we can extend before we run out.
 
This is so blatantly racist it's absolutely repelling. This should be a criminal offense. Like showing a Hakenkreuz flag in public or demanding an ethnic cleansing or something.
 

CosmicComet

Member
This Soy California shit is why I dont care about Sony first party anymore. Or really any big American or Euro developers either.

And honestly its yall white folks' fault for pushing this toxic identity politics angle, which has invariably shown to erode quality over a relatively quick passage of time, instead of just going for the best people and ideas for any given job.

God of War is the only Sony IP left that I still highly value and hasn't jumped the shark yet. Yet.
 
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StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
and people still say that it isnt forced but implemented naturally , when you need to focus on it its forced
If a company has to hire diversity experts to guide them, it goes to show their own backyard isnt diverse to begin with.

That Ted Price video posted earlier today from years back (2017) showed Insomniac's employee pool being like 90% white dudes. Hardly any minorities or women.
 
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