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The what? Is there an hbo follow along text to go along with this wonderful original content tv show?
Quadrophenic
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I thought it was just that summer had lasted 9 years, since Bran in season 1 was referred to as a Summerchild (Implying he was born in the summer, and given that he's about 9 years old now, summer must have lasted 9 years, so Winter was 9 years + Spring ago), and at the beginning of season 1 they noted something (I forgot exactly what) which meant summer was coming to an end.
Unless in this universe there are only two seasons, Summer and Winter....The warlock did just say "Summer and Winter, and then Summer and Winter many times" or whatever.
Unless in this universe there are only two seasons, Summer and Winter....The warlock did just say "Summer and Winter, and then Summer and Winter many times" or whatever.
I don't think they've explained clearly but IMO I think we're meant to believe that Summer refers to Spring/Summer/Fall while Winter refers to cold and snow. And that it can stay warm for awhile and then cold. I don't know though, I never really questioned it.
Early in this season Maester Pycelle announced that he'd gotten a white raven which meant that summer was over. However, it doesn't appear to be winter yet, so it seems that Spring and Autumn are included in the world.
Randy Lanzarote
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Well, that's that done for another year. It's been an excellent 10hrs of tv, bring on the bluray boxset!
- Touching scene for Tyrion. Thought he had done enough to earn some respect, but he's been slapped back down again.
- Fucking Finchy, why did he have to go and attack master Luwin? After his scene with Theon I think he was probably the most compassionate character on the show.
- Bet Sansa wished she took the Hound up on his offer now. Dopey bitch.
- ZOMBIES! Been waiting to see a proper continuation of the White Walker story, looks like the shit is about to hit the fan hard.
- I hope we get to see Bravos at some point, seems to be full of.... Interesting people.
- Don't fuck with Dany. She will burn you or bury you alive.
I loved the look on his face after Brienne dispatched the 3 soldiers. It was a sudden realisation that she wasn't a freak show and perhaps he shouldn't have been so quick to challenge her to battle.
- Touching scene for Tyrion. Thought he had done enough to earn some respect, but he's been slapped back down again.
- Fucking Finchy, why did he have to go and attack master Luwin? After his scene with Theon I think he was probably the most compassionate character on the show.
- Bet Sansa wished she took the Hound up on his offer now. Dopey bitch.
- ZOMBIES! Been waiting to see a proper continuation of the White Walker story, looks like the shit is about to hit the fan hard.
- I hope we get to see Bravos at some point, seems to be full of.... Interesting people.
- Don't fuck with Dany. She will burn you or bury you alive.
I loved the look on his face after Brienne dispatched the 3 soldiers. It was a sudden realisation that she wasn't a freak show and perhaps he shouldn't have been so quick to challenge her to battle.
Did I miss something? How do we know she didn't accept the offer? Maybe they planned on fleeing a day or two later? I'm just saying because the last thing she said was something along the lines of "You will not harm me" and thats it.
PhoenixDark
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For non book readers: do not look up the book version of the House Of The Undying, you will run into spoilers.
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I'm not sure if it's mentioned in the show, but this Summer is unusually long. They have longer seasons than normal anyway, but "a long summer means a longer winter". There is spring and autumn.
yup, I think that's what happened, although I'm not entirely sure how the managed to get out of the castle. Pretty funny scene. As for who burned down the castle, I kinda suspect there are traitors in Robb's army.
What's up with that warlock guy? why didn't he do anything to stop Khaleesi? he can do all sorts of magic tricks, but he can't stop those puppet dragons?
that scene was so bad, just ... so bad. This has to be the most ridicules death in the show yet.
He can make himself appear anywhere. Apparently the power doesn't work when something is about to set you on fire.
I see nothing wrong with the warlock's death. He was fascinated with them, and he felt confident enough with his powers. You guys forget the dragon fire is not like normal fire (going from what's been stated in the show), so likely if it hit him just a little bit, it couldn't be extinguished. Basically, he was dead the time that flame hit him.
Also, his magic being linked to the dragons could make it that he was feeble when they turned against him or that he requires concentration to make it work.
I really liked the episode, Dany was amazing and so divine. I want her to be queen! And I loved what he did to the vault guy. I just fucking love the female cast. Does anyone think that Margaery is amazing? She knows how to play the game of being queen, and she could probably rule over Joffrey. I wonder how faithful the Tyrells will be to the Lannisters, but they really are an interesting lot. After all, she was on Renly's side, but I'm starting to think it was only her ambition to be queen (particularly for what she said to Littlefinger after Renly's death, even if she seemed honestly apalled by his fate).
Also, his magic being linked to the dragons could make it that he was feeble when they turned against him or that he requires concentration to make it work.
I really liked the episode, Dany was amazing and so divine. I want her to be queen! And I loved what he did to the vault guy. I just fucking love the female cast. Does anyone think that Margaery is amazing? She knows how to play the game of being queen, and she could probably rule over Joffrey. I wonder how faithful the Tyrells will be to the Lannisters, but they really are an interesting lot. After all, she was on Renly's side, but I'm starting to think it was only her ambition to be queen (particularly for what she said to Littlefinger after Renly's death, even if she seemed honestly apalled by his fate).
Forceatowulf
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Just watched the last two eps back to back. I said GOD DAMN! Fantastic episodes. I cannot wait for season 3.
Oh and Dat CGI! Best CG I've ever seen on television...
The White walker at the end man.. holy fuck...
Oh and Dat CGI! Best CG I've ever seen on television...
The White walker at the end man.. holy fuck...
SolidusDave
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I really don't think The Hound was planning on sticking around. Not only does he not seem like the "leisurely plan a vacation" type, but he probably realized that hanging around King's Landing after his whole "Fuck the king" speech probably isn't good for his health.
ROAR
Hes not even suitable as an undead warrior
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You best start believing in ghost stories Miss Turner.
you're in one
you're in one
yeah, i didn't get this either.
ElectricBlue187
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oh man you are so wrong there. Jaqen is now one of the most interesting things in the show, I can't wait to see what happens with him and Arya in S3
ElectricBlue187
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I think that has been disproven in this episode since Arya references the dancing master directly and Jaquen said he was much more than that, a faceless man or something. Sounds awesome. I hope we see Bravos too.
One reoccurring theme in this show is different characters are given the chance to flee from persecution but decide not to (Sansa, Tyrion, Arya)
DKehoe
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By "much more" he could mean he was the dancing master but he was also Jaquen and who knows how many other personas. Just thought it was an interesting theory and wanted to see what people thought.
Tyrion last season referred to living through a few winters. The younger Stark children never experience one but none recently have been very long in comparison to the horror stories of the last long winter some decades ago.
The main dude always seems top walk through the door. his clones pop up anywhere. I'm kind of lost at the confusion of the scene. They
Timing. in the middle of a siege where Sansa is just told that Stannis will win and won't hurt her by someone she's always trusted, why would she go with Hound anywhere as a fugitive?
Now that the battle is over and her marriage vow ended, she thinks she's free but isn't. Littlefinger offers her freedom. Same offer but way different context
I like it as a theory, but don't think it's entirely practical. I don't like the notion that a guy that skilled would be holed up in a wagon cage on the way to the Wall unless he wanted to be there.
I just finished the season finale and I guess I'll need to watch it again.
My first reaction is that it seems like there were a lot of empty holes in the plot and I have no idea how we got from point A to point B in a lot of scenes. It all seemed very rushed. Like they had to get certain people in certain places and had to get things all tied up or set up for season 3.
I feel like this should have been a two hour finale with a little more exposition thrown in.
My first reaction is that it seems like there were a lot of empty holes in the plot and I have no idea how we got from point A to point B in a lot of scenes. It all seemed very rushed. Like they had to get certain people in certain places and had to get things all tied up or set up for season 3.
I feel like this should have been a two hour finale with a little more exposition thrown in.
Hot Coldman
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WHITE WALKERS ARGHHHHHH
Hilarious how literally everything interesting about the Qarth arc happened in the season finale.
Hilarious how literally everything interesting about the Qarth arc happened in the season finale.
Randy Lanzarote
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As someone else commented, after his "Fuck the kingdom, fuck the king" speech I think he knew he had to make a speedy exit from King's Landing. The fact he wasn't around in this episode suggests to me he has made a run for it.
(He could be hiding... but I don't think someone his size and appearance could remain incognito for long)
Sansa seems like she want's to stay in King's Landing for the time being, although I'm not really sure why.... perhaps she is planning her own little revenge on Joffrey. Or maybe she can't face going back to Winterfell and seeing her family, perhaps she feels guilty for her father's death.
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So are we to take it that, with its sacking and the death of Maester Luwin, Winterfell will no longer feature in the show? Did all of the Winterfellians (?) die in the blaze or did they just flee?
I think it will feature more heavily.
My take is that people fled when the attack started (I assumed many left when Theon came around) and became refugess in other Houses. Some were likely holed up in Winterfell too.
Most of the men are with Robb, but I wonder if that will cause them to pull back & head back to Winterfell from the war (Especially if they learn neither Sansa or Arya are even in Kings Landing.
Funky Papa
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Catched up.
Oh my gawd.
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More later.
Oh my gawd.
Also:
More later.
Battersea Power Station
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Too many skinny-armed wise men in here who think they know the explanations to all the vague plot points.
A whole season has passed and it feels like nothing has changed since it began. For the most part, the overall situation is in nearly the same as when it started.
The Danny/warlock scene: I don't think the dragons are that much stronger now in and of themselves. I think what the warlock said let it out/gave the idea that Danny can channel power to them. That's why it was just a little smoke at first and then when it looked like she was getting off to it, it turned crazy. I think she has learned she can will power to them.
Really confused about the Theon and winterfell situation also, but if it comes to pass that there is some sort of redemption for theon like it started to seem like with his Ludwin convo, then I suspect there are some undercover book readers here. There is no way in hell after all that has been portrayed in the show to have predicted he was anything but beyond redemption three times over.
I thought tyrion would get some credit, but I guess in hindsight it makes sense that he got none. It is true to real life in the past that the king or whoever is to get credit for conquests needs to make an appearance at important battles else they won't get the glory. I have hard time feeling sympathetic to tyrion now, though. He loves to be in the middle of shit and to stir up shit himself enough to get shea and any other innocent fucked over. Sounds like a personal problem to me and not a matter of being a victim of unfortunate circumstances like a lot of other characters.
The Danny/warlock scene: I don't think the dragons are that much stronger now in and of themselves. I think what the warlock said let it out/gave the idea that Danny can channel power to them. That's why it was just a little smoke at first and then when it looked like she was getting off to it, it turned crazy. I think she has learned she can will power to them.
Really confused about the Theon and winterfell situation also, but if it comes to pass that there is some sort of redemption for theon like it started to seem like with his Ludwin convo, then I suspect there are some undercover book readers here. There is no way in hell after all that has been portrayed in the show to have predicted he was anything but beyond redemption three times over.
I thought tyrion would get some credit, but I guess in hindsight it makes sense that he got none. It is true to real life in the past that the king or whoever is to get credit for conquests needs to make an appearance at important battles else they won't get the glory. I have hard time feeling sympathetic to tyrion now, though. He loves to be in the middle of shit and to stir up shit himself enough to get shea and any other innocent fucked over. Sounds like a personal problem to me and not a matter of being a victim of unfortunate circumstances like a lot of other characters.
This has always been my problem with Winterfell. It never seemed as big as the first episode. It's got to be a pretty big place, but the set is too small.
Good episode other than Tyrion. Who removed him as hand of the king? Joffrey runs to mommy, Tyrion leads the charge and is wounded in battle, and they toss him aside. I thought the father would appreciate what he did. If Joffrey or his mother had the power to remove him they would have done it earlier.
I have to go back now and re-watch that scene with Tyrion and his father where he seems to find respect for his son's abilities.
I have to go back now and re-watch that scene with Tyrion and his father where he seems to find respect for his son's abilities.
Tyrion was only acting Hand while his father was away at battle. But now that he's back in Kings Landing he get's his position as the proper Hand of the King.
Tywin made him Hand while he was in battle. Tywin apparently accepted the role (Thus ending his part in battle or will he multi-task?)
Chuckie
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He was acting Hand of the King. Tywin is the real Hand of the King. So when he returned Tyrion no longer had the job.
Edit: Beaten like Sansa.
DKehoe
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Tyrion was always just an interim Hand of the King while Tywin was away from King's Landing. (EDIT: Beaten a whole bunch of times) I was hoping to see him get more credit and be hailed as a war hero but had a feeling things wouldn't turn out so well for him.
I imagine that Tyrion & Daddy are going to have a talk about his accomplishments next season.
Tyrion won't be a nobody for long and this was setup as a cliffhanger.
This finale actually had a bunch of non-boisterous cliffhangers where the show didn't seem to care about how significant they really were.
- Winterfell sacked
- Tyrion nearly killed at the command of his family, plus losing respect & dignity
- Robb marrying is huge (& stupid)
- Tywin staying on as Hand
Tyrion won't be a nobody for long and this was setup as a cliffhanger.
This finale actually had a bunch of non-boisterous cliffhangers where the show didn't seem to care about how significant they really were.
- Winterfell sacked
- Tyrion nearly killed at the command of his family, plus losing respect & dignity
- Robb marrying is huge (& stupid)
- Tywin staying on as Hand
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I hate to do this, but I've seen it in here enough times: it's caught up, not catched up.
There is got to be some kind of clash between Tyrion and the rest of the Lannister's next season. Tyrion just has no power base though, Tywin pretty much took away anything that he had. Will be interesting to see where he goes from here. Tyrion says he enjoys playing the game and he is good at it so you figure he's got to have something up his sleeve.
DKehoe
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I'd imagine Tyrion is pretty popular with the people of King's Landing after the battle. I can see that factoring into it somehow if he is going to make some sort of play for power. But the only real military force he has are those Barbarians that Tywin sent away.
Ok makes sense, but they seemed to make it a point that after successfully plotting the defense of the city and even personally leading the charge they throw him in some crappy room with a rag bandage on his face. Whoever that was in the room when he woke up was even giving him crap.
Fine that his father takes over as hand but the lack of respect seemed excessive and inexplicable. I was hoping the father would come back and shit all over Joffrey. With his horse. I suppose this just sets it up for another Tyrion comeback from behind.
Yea he also had the gold cape guys after he made Bronn their commander. Looks like Tywin went out of his way to cut Tyrion off from all his power sources.
I forgot his name but he used to be on the council ans was a spy for cercei so Tyrion cut his beard and threw him in the dungeon. I think he didn't treat the wound as well as he could have.
The look Tywin gave him is enough for me to know he's going to be doing a lot of smacking around too lol. He wasn't going to cause a scene during that event.
Again, I have to think that Tywin is too smart to ignore or hurt Tyrion at this point.
No big deal to me. Funy enough, I managed to spoil that thread last week lol.catfish said:
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