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EDGE: Why "increasingly frustrated journalists" need MS to reveal its new Xbox
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shinobi602
Member
Yes, that's all it was.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Dozens of rumors suggesting the same things?. We knew most of the PS4 things before it was revealed.
IHaveCandy
Banned
If the rumors are false, Microsift can wait all they want. The rumors won't matter if the announcement clears the air.
Doug Heffernan
Member
Feels like pre-PS3 all over again...
"Next Gen doesn't start til we say so."
"Next Gen doesn't start til we say so."
^ that time will come, there are several months more before the supposed holiday release of the consoles. they can talk all they want at that time, what matters now is MS getting ready and confident enough to show why should we buy their console.
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Yep id fucking kill for a positive rumour right about now.
Father_Brain
Banned
Neil Long said:
So, Long is now disavowing his own publication's reporting? Seems to be what his wording implies.
mentalfloss
Banned
I'm pretty sure Microsoft can reveal their new console whenever the hell they want to.
They need to fucking blow socks off at that revel, after the shit talking by their own staff like major nelson and billy then it has to answer all question day one and leave nothing on the table.
Maybe he is holding out hope
grimshawish
Banned
'Journalists' are annoyed because they are probably privy to one or two things they are not allowed to repeat and likely too they are noticing over PAX/GDC their supposed 'mates' aren't telling them anything over a social drink - almost like their professionals or something.
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I don't think Xbox will be 2013. Can't prove me wrong
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I don't think Xbox will be 2013. Can't prove me wrong
Then: Assumed it would be basically a 360 but more powerful, and then some silly gimmicky social shit I never touched.
Now: Forced Kinect. Forced Online. Can't resell my games when I'm done with them so I'd literally have to throw them in the trash.
Dlacy13g
Member
OR maybe these "journalists" could get some integrity and stop writing articles to just get site hits? Everyone is quick to blame MS for not revealing because Sony choose to reveal early. MS is totally in a shit position right now. They had a marketing plan...and had it not been for the twitter blow up of Adam Orth I have no doubts MS could have carried through with their plan. But given the blow up and the mob mentality of the internet everyone is jumping to conclusions and acting like the world ended. Now MS is putting some distance between their announcement and the blow up. You thought they were on lock down before? I am sure MS sent an internal death threat to all employees to shut the F up after this all went down. Not saying its related but I found it odd there was no major nelson show this week. I don't recall him saying they were taking 2 weeks off.
Its funny cause I like this to sports a bit. You see a similar mob mentality when sports teams win the championship... a few idiots start breaking stuff and suddenly every moron in the streets thinks its cool to trash everything. They go hog wild in the streets for a solid night... The police more or less stand back and just make sure nothing truly detrimental happens like killings... the monitor and try not to incite any more rage... things begin to die down...the police move in and mop up the mess. MS seems to be doing the same thing... let the rage die down....they will then come in and try and clean/clear things up. Damage certainly has been done though.
BolognaSoup
Member
That tool bag just can't get enough of the sites and forums he says he ignores.
I don't think Microsoft should announce any news out of obligation to reporters.
I think they should do it for damage control now. The fact they aren't is worrying. Most of the rumors spreading is very damaging and coming so close to E3 it could be dead in the water if the Always Online rumor proves to be true. It kills their console out of the gate.
I think they should do it for damage control now. The fact they aren't is worrying. Most of the rumors spreading is very damaging and coming so close to E3 it could be dead in the water if the Always Online rumor proves to be true. It kills their console out of the gate.
Would a simple 'No it isn't always online/you can play used games' kill them?
LittleJohnny
Banned
Ding ding ding!
Everyone else has shown their hands and the river card is about to be played, yet MS is still holding on to it's cards, show us now damn it!! "River card to be played on May 21, 2013".
It's a rumor. Should be taken with a grain of salt until it's confirmed. Like I stated before no one but a privileged few know what is what. If you are basing purchasing decisions on rumors the jokes on you.
Edge don't make shit up. Don't know why you'd want them to.
I really think that many news are going to be confirmations of the many bad rumors. In that sense, I think delaying is a big mistake. If they think people are going to be excited about always on-line, no matter the (only in US) services they provide with it then they are just dead wrong. If none of that is true, and the news are all great, then they can wait a month or two.
Just don't literally put up a Circus to announce the damn thing.
Just don't literally put up a Circus to announce the damn thing.
Nothing confirmed. Way to jump the gun...
digoutyoursoul
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Knux-Future
Banned
Man...going by the constant calls for dudes to get fired, it would suck working for some of you guys...or hell if you guys were shareholders.
errbody fired.
Pretty much, that's what the internet is for, we'll probably find out details through leaks anyways.
Its not just some rumour out of thin air though, its being backed up time and time again. Look at the ps4 revel we pretty much knew nearly every single detail bar the 8 gig of ram.
He's a member here. He said he'd try to ignore posters like you, didn't he? Don't recall him saying he'd ignore gaf on the whole.
That's true, but they also weren't dead last in doing so last time.
I'm not suggesting that makes it bad management, but that does account for the impatience at this point.
MightyHedgehog
Member
An article about nothing and how it sucks to have nothing and, somehow, things suck more when people fill that nothing with stupid where it didn't exist or even have a reason to?
The entire point is that with no other info due to Microsoft's silence this is the only info people have to react to. It is a bunch of negative publicity that could either be entirely denied by Microsoft if it is false or at least messaged better if true. They just need to say something.
AHA-Lambda
Member
At this point regarding Durango:
Why would I want to buy one?
Why would I want to buy one?
Why wouldn't you watch the reveal? It should confirm/deny whatever rumors have made you not want to buy one.
Microsoft probably slipped him a fat cheque to make him shut up.
Mr.Squirrel
Tom
It really aint that big of a deal. Once its announced it'll be plastered all over the news sites just like the PS4 was. Only people making a big deal of this are the ones who are obsessing over any tidbit of info they can get.
The average consumer doesn't care about always online, the potential lack of GDDR5 or no BC. its only the GAF crowd who's going crazy over shit like this.
The average consumer doesn't care about always online, the potential lack of GDDR5 or no BC. its only the GAF crowd who's going crazy over shit like this.
MS does not need to rush anything just to appease these gaming terrorists.
Delusibeta
Banned
At the moment, we're approaching Windows 8 levels of anti-hype, and Microsoft has a dreadful record at combating anti-hype.
It's far simpler than that.
They want to shit out system wars click bait articles non stop. They can't do that until both systems are revealed.
Cause: Effect
Can't play used games: 'true'
Always online was brought up: and QUICKLY shot down.
New Controller: 'true'
My guess is the reason they are waiting so long is for full on damage control the second always online is announced.
I can imagine as a journalist getting blasted daily from readers if they have any new information on the Durango gets old really quick. It will set the internet on fore like the PS4 when it was announced but it will also get rid of the majority of the rumor threads and comments which are irritating on both sides.
digoutyoursoul
Member
If its not a disaster as the Internet thinks it is, Edges reports on the system didnt indicate otherwise to me personally.
For Microsoft, I just hope they have invested in new, compelling ip
For Microsoft, I just hope they have invested in new, compelling ip
Yup the 360 was announced in May of 05. Some people have short memories it seems.
You sure about this?
Since it doesn't officially exist, have anything other than a codename, no release date or price point, I'm not sure anyone could tell you unless you like product recommendations based on speculation and conjuncture.
flyinpiranha
Member
I'm irritated with it too. We don't live in the age of 'wait and see' anymore. It's 2013, not 2005. People like information. Hell, GTA info is driving me crazy but it is what it is.
No matter how false/true rumors are, the stuff flying around now causes me to be reluctant and only tarnishes a generally positive image that I have of them.
All we can do is wait, but the longer they wait the MORE they will have to offer to win me over. I imagine I am the last person they are interested in though with the recent focus on Kinect.
I remember. I also have realized that the landscape has changed regarding information. Twitter wasn't founded yet, Youtube wasn't even remotely what it is, and Facebook I think was still only for college emails. Things have changed and people are a lot more connected. And there was probably a fraction of the gaming blogs/sites we have now, but that's something I can't find any information on.
I mean, I get it, they love 'dem secrets. But holy shit it if isn't getting annoying for enthusiasts. It's obvious there is a market for this information as a single twitter conversation of about 4 statements turned into a huge media happening. It honestly feels like a Wal-mart door just before opening for Black Friday.
No matter how false/true rumors are, the stuff flying around now causes me to be reluctant and only tarnishes a generally positive image that I have of them.
All we can do is wait, but the longer they wait the MORE they will have to offer to win me over. I imagine I am the last person they are interested in though with the recent focus on Kinect.
I remember. I also have realized that the landscape has changed regarding information. Twitter wasn't founded yet, Youtube wasn't even remotely what it is, and Facebook I think was still only for college emails. Things have changed and people are a lot more connected. And there was probably a fraction of the gaming blogs/sites we have now, but that's something I can't find any information on.
I mean, I get it, they love 'dem secrets. But holy shit it if isn't getting annoying for enthusiasts. It's obvious there is a market for this information as a single twitter conversation of about 4 statements turned into a huge media happening. It honestly feels like a Wal-mart door just before opening for Black Friday.
And those were rumors until confirmed. Even if the rumors are 100% accurate, they are not accurate until confirmed. So I don't see why there is such a rush to base what you are going to do on an unconfirmed rumor. They very well could be 100% accurate, but we do not know, so it is best to reserve judgment. Then again this is Neogaf, so I wouldn't expect anything less out of some posters.
Well if it is true then the negative press will follow even more so, if none of this is true then MS comes out looking good. Just have to wait. Either way people are buzzing about the machine.
BolognaSoup
Member
He claimed to "immediately disregard the entire Adam Orth thread because it had a 'shitty title'"
BlazingDarkness
Member
Is he gonna cry?