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Sony: "over a million" PS4 preorders to date

The Flash

Banned
Only a million? I thought it was going to be at least 100 million the way that Gaf has been going about the preorder numbers game lately.
 
I think ps2's combined sales for the first 2 weeks of each launch (jap/na/eu had diff releases) were in the vicinity of 1.5 million sold units. PS3 had less than a million but they had unit shortages. Looks like ps4 could reach the 2-3 million mark by Decembers end.

What is the Wii U's LTD?
 

DieH@rd

Banned
Only a million? I thought it was going to be at least 100 million the way that Gaf has been going about the preorder numbers game lately.

Over one million preorders is a lot for a day1 sales. Demand for PS4 is evidently very high, they will sell a SHITTON before year's end, possibly 4-5 million if they can create and ship that many in time.
 

Zok310

Banned
1 freaking million ww?!? 2 months away from launch, and without Asia.
That's huge, 1 million of anything is a lot. Lol at folks not impressed.
For Sony this might be their biggest product launch in 13 years.

Look at it this way, most games launched today dont break 1 million ww lifetime. This is huge for indies that are still sitting on the fence. For bigger pubs (ea,ubi,acti) it tells them at least with the ps4 they will have a big enough install base for their bigger titles.
 

Cidd

Member
Over 1 million pre-orders is a big deal, even if 20% cancelled, it will still be a lot of consoles at launch.

Good news for Sony.
 

antonz

Member
1 freaking million ww?!? 2 months away from launch, and without Asia.
That's huge, 1 million of anything is a lot. Lol at folks not impressed.
For Sony this might be their biggest product launch in 13 years.

Look at it this way, most games launched today dont break 1 million ww lifetime. This is huge for indies that are still sitting on the fence. For bigger pubs (ea,ubi,acti) it tells them at least with the ps4 they will have a big enough install base for their bigger titles.

Console launch preorders are some of the most meaningless metrics to gauge anything on. Scalpers end up being a big chunk of preorders. The months following launch is what matters
 
1 million worldwide doesn't seem like the run away hit Gaf makes it out to be. X1 must be doing even worse.

I have a feeling a lot of people on here will look silly when PS4 and XBO fail to match the WiiU's 3 million consoles sold in it's first three months on the market and then we get sub 10k PS4 weekly sales in Japan and sub 50k console sales for each on NPD early next year.

This isn't 2005/6 for most people financially, people have Blu Ray & online gaming already and the graphical leap between generations is nothing like it was last time out.
 
Only a million? I thought it was going to be at least 100 million the way that Gaf has been going about the preorder numbers game lately.

That would have resulted in 99 million dissapointed consumers on launch day. Like I said, 1 million is about what Sony can hope to produce and ship in time for launch.
 

tbm24

Member
Console launch preorders are some of the most meaningless metrics to gauge anything on. Scalpers end up being a big chunk of preorders. The months following launch is what matters

Lets say I believe you when you say Scalpers end up being a big chunk of pre-orders. If/when they sell the consoles they pre-ordered, what's the difference?
 

remnant

Banned
guys stop comparing $60 game pre-orders to $400 dollar console pre-orders in your head.

The big hope is to move upward of a milion consoles during the winter season. The fact that Sony is already there 3 months beforehand is huge news.
 
I have a feeling a lot of people on here will look silly when PS4 and XBO fail to match the WiiU's 3 million consoles sold in it's first three months on the market and then we get sub 10k PS4 weekly sales in Japan and sub 50k console sales for each on NPD early next year.

This isn't 2005/6 for most people financially, people have Blu Ray & online gaming already and the graphical leap between generations is nothing like it was last time out.

Are you serious? PS4 will probably beat the WiiU's first 3 months by the end of the year.
 
Walmart starts their in store preorders for PS4 and Xbox One this Saturday for those still wanting launch day next gen consoles. So preorder numbers will continue to rise.






Also, do the casuals even preorder? That's where the war will be won.
 
I have a feeling a lot of people on here will look silly when PS4 and XBO fail to match the WiiU's 3 million consoles sold in it's first three months on the market and then we get sub 10k PS4 weekly sales in Japan and sub 50k console sales for each on NPD early next year.

This isn't 2005/6 for most people financially, people have Blu Ray & online gaming already and the graphical leap between generations is nothing like it was last time out.

Worst post in a while. Just because Wii U is a gigantic failure doesn't mean that everyone is doomed. The amount of hype for PS4/Xbone is much higher than for Wii U and they will actually get decent 3rd party support.
 
Console launch preorders are some of the most meaningless metrics to gauge anything on. Scalpers end up being a big chunk of preorders. The months following launch is what matters


What's with people thinking scalpers somehow screw up the preorder numbers? Who cares if they scalp/sell it, they still have to buy it to sell it which means a big plus 1 sale for Sony!
 

DieH@rd

Banned
I just wonder how supply constrained they will be post-launch. 1 million is a significant amount of hardware for launch.

Many think that they can produce 1 million units per month. Their holiday and Q1 2014 sales will depend much on how soon can they ramp up that kind of production.
 

Darryl

Banned
What's with people thinking scalpers somehow screw up the preorder numbers? Who cares if they scalp/sell it, they still have to buy it to sell it which means a big plus 1 sale for Sony!

you can cancel your preorder at any time if you don't think you're going to make a profit off of it. you can even return it once you buy it and can't sell it like a lot of people did with wii us. it's really easy nowadays to preorder and you don't even need money down on places like Amazon.
 
What's with people thinking scalpers somehow screw up the preorder numbers? Who cares if they scalp/sell it, they still have to buy it to sell it which means a big plus 1 sale for Sony!
I'm wondering if they are even that much of a factor in the numbers anyway, people talk about them like they're a 1/10th of the pre-orders.
 
I have a feeling a lot of people on here will look silly when PS4 and XBO fail to match the WiiU's 3 million consoles sold in it's first three months on the market and then we get sub 10k PS4 weekly sales in Japan and sub 50k console sales for each on NPD early next year.

This isn't 2005/6 for most people financially, people have Blu Ray & online gaming already and the graphical leap between generations is nothing like it was last time out.
I have a feeling we're going to be looking back at posts like this in a year and laughing our asses off.

Shit, I'm already laughing.
 

Madness

Member
wonder how that compares to Xbone.

1 million doesn't sound a lot really but it must be if they mention it.

We still have 2 months to go till launch, not to mention that soon, they finalize everything, start stocking demo units in stores and get the advertising going. 1 million pre orders for a $400 console is somewhat good I'd say. Coupled with launch day purchases and the holiday season, you could easily see PS4 sell quite a bit.
XbOne must've been even less pre orders especially in Europe so they through in one of the most hyped games for free FIFA 14.
 
Now wonder FIFA is a preorder pack in. at least Microsoft is learning the casuals dont preorder, the casuals aren't early adopters.
 
The downside of having 30-whateverish games for each console in the first month or so is there are going to be some very big losers, sales-wise. How many titles do people buy when they just shelled out $600-700 for consoles and controllers and blah blah blah.

Or doesn't it matter since they are multi-gen titles for the most part and the big pubs (Ubi, EA, Activision) are willing to eat some money to get the next gen pushed? Seems like some of the smaller titles are gonna get passed over really easily.
 

SegaShack

Member
Only a million? I thought it was going to be at least 100 million the way that Gaf has been going about the preorder numbers game lately.

It's just another example of internet reactions not at all being equal to real world sales. Many things can be popular amongst hardcore gamers but that never means that it will apply to real world sales. Now since there is only a certain allotment of consoles and it did sell out fast, 1 million is pretty damn good.

Microsoft could sell more XB1's than PS4s based off the fact that MS Store and Walmart still allow pre-orders. If the yield issue rumors are true than there is a problem. Either way, both consoles have a large amount of demand considering their prices.

I think it's obvious that come launch both Microsoft and Sony will sell every single unit they produced.
 

benjammin

Member
Over 1m preorders 3 months away from release, the console has been sold out just about everywhere for the past 2 months, and people still aren't impressed? Way to keep expectations realistic...

That's more than a quarter of all Wii U sales and more than half of all MS Surface sales and we're still a quarter of a year away from release. What could you have possibly been expecting? Or does Dr Evil just have six dozen gaf accounts on standby
 
I have a feeling a lot of people on here will look silly when PS4 and XBO fail to match the WiiU's 3 million consoles sold in it's first three months on the market and then we get sub 10k PS4 weekly sales in Japan and sub 50k console sales for each on NPD early next year.

This isn't 2005/6 for most people financially, people have Blu Ray & online gaming already and the graphical leap between generations is nothing like it was last time out.

The Wii U has so many issues that it's isn't even funny. Name confusion, the price is too high, Nintendo's incompetent handling of first party games and constant delays, lack of advertising, almost complete lack of third party support... the list goes on. Comparing it to the PS4/X1 is absurd.

I can agree with people who say tablets/phones/etc have eaten up Handheld marketshare, but people have been claiming the death of consoles for so many years now, it's getting old. There's no reason to believe either the PS4/X1 will do as bad as the Wii U
 
Microsoft could sell more XB1's than PS4s based off the fact that MS Store and Walmart still allow pre-orders. If the yield issue rumors are true than there is a problem. Either way, both consoles have a large amount of demand considering their prices.

I think it's obvious that come launch both Microsoft and Sony will sell every single unit they produced.

The Xbox One can sell every single unit produced and can exceed sales of the PS4 because Walmart and the Microsoft Store are still taking pre-orders....what?
 

damisa

Member
Preorder or even launch numbers don't matter. What matters is what these consoles sell in summer 2014.

X360 was selling ~230K a month in the US last gen in it's first summer. Can either the PS4 or XBOne match that? I don't think anyone can predict what will happen once the initial hardcore demand is satisfied.
 

SegaShack

Member
The Xbox One can sell every single unit produced and can exceed sales of the PS4 because Walmart and the Microsoft Store are still taking pre-orders....what?

You can not deny the high demand for both consoles. If Gamestop, Amazon, and Bestbuy believed they would get more XB1s and PS4s they would sell preorders for those too.

We have no official numbers of how many Xboxs or PS4s will be produced for holiday. Despite rumors of a potential yield issue with Microsoft, nothing has been confirmed. There is a chance that Microsoft will have more of these produced than Sony. The fact that XB1 is sold out everywhere but Walmart (biggest US retailer) and the official Microsoft Store is taking preorders could mean that there may be more systems than PS4. Walmart is the biggest US retailer and it makes sense for them to be given more units than other retailers, and Microsoft Store is the company's official store so it would make sense they would have a huge amount of systems.

Neither the PS4 or the XB1 will be easy to get in store come November.

Microsoft decreasing the number of markets they launch in could mean production issues or potentially wanting to focus on other areas at first. The only numbers, the PS4 selling 4:1 to XB1s are given by Gamestop workers, no one has the official totals besides Sony and Microsoft.
 

Jack Torrance

Neo Member
I remember the PS3 shipping (not sold) 1m units by the end of 2006. The Xbox 360 during it's launch window in 2005 sold less than 1M units.

The PS4 already having 1m+ preorders in hand this far out from release, plus it's being sold in far more territories is HUGE.
 

Apath

Member
Do we have numbers on pre-orders for the PS3 (360 would be nice as well), and can those numbers be broken down by region? It would also be nice to know how many countries they launched in as well.
I remember the PS3 shipping (not sold) 1m units by the end of 2006. The Xbox 360 during it's launch window in 2005 sold less than 1M units.

The PS4 already having 1m+ preorders in hand this far out from release, plus it's being sold in far more territories is HUGE.
Are these numbers world wide or just in the US alone?
Now wonder FIFA is a preorder pack in. at least Microsoft is learning the casuals dont preorder, the casuals aren't early adopters.
It's amazing to think how incompetent they have been. It's seriously like over the years they forgot everything that made the 360 so great early on in its life cycle.
 
I just wonder how many my local Walmart will have for people who didn't preorder. If the end up with a small alotment due to insane preorders, I could see some conflict happening. My store/area is a little wacky already.
 
I remember the PS3 shipping (not sold) 1m units by the end of 2006. The Xbox 360 during it's launch window in 2005 sold less than 1M units.

The PS4 already having 1m+ preorders in hand this far out from release, plus it's being sold in far more territories is HUGE.
Both of those were bleeding edge and supply constrained as fuck at launch.
 
you can cancel your preorder at any time if you don't think you're going to make a profit off of it. you can even return it once you buy it and can't sell it like a lot of people did with wii us. it's really easy nowadays to preorder and you don't even need money down on places like Amazon.

That doesn't affect sony, it affects Amazon. To sony, that preorder is still a sale, as amazon had to buy the console to sell it. Its only a problem in the case of mass cancellations or returns which are unlikely to happen.

Comparing the number of people who own smartphones to people who own consoles is not even close. Most people buy new smart phones every two years as well, so there is a lot higher demand.

Of course, but when people start hearing those kind of numbers banded around, it makes smaller numbers for newest gadget/toy on the block seem less significant.


its like any generation before the PS2/Wii the fact that two consoles have sold more than 70 million copies would be an amazing feat. Now its just "meh - wont catch the Wii or the PS2"
 
The Wii U has so many issues that it's isn't even funny. Name confusion, the price is too high, Nintendo's incompetent handling of first party games and constant delays, lack of advertising, almost complete lack of third party support... the list goes on. Comparing it to the PS4/X1 is absurd.

I can agree with people who say tablets/phones/etc have eaten up Handheld marketshare, but people have been claiming the death of consoles for so many years now, it's getting old. There's no reason to believe either the PS4/X1 will do as bad as the Wii U

I'm not claiming the 'death of consoles' I just think a mixture of casual consumer apathy (most of the launch games are available for PS360), supply constraints and the fact they will be fighting with each other over sales will mean that they don't take off quite aswell as a lot of people on here think they will.

WiiU is on 3.6 million just now, I can't see PS4 and XBO being on any more than 4 million each* by this time next year but I'm sure they won't get anything like the ridicule WiiU gets for it's sales.
 
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