Single 780 would do, it's barely any slower than a Titan.
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Is a new PC a better choice than a next gen console?
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Single 780 would do, it's barely any slower than a Titan.
IncandescentPrecept
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I'm not seeing the PC coming close to being more prevalent than a PS console worldwide. Even less now that a lot of pc exclusive devs are coming to PS4 as well.
SPACECADET
Member
pc's just aren't for me. i've spent a lot of time on friends high end towers with digital cooling displays and lazer light show going on through a clear wall on the side, pumping out the top games at super framerates,
but even then i just feel cold. hunching over a desk. i know the benefits of pc gaming but console gaming to me is just better feeling.
maybe i'll get into the pc game if consoles in the future fade away, but who knows.
but even then i just feel cold. hunching over a desk. i know the benefits of pc gaming but console gaming to me is just better feeling.
maybe i'll get into the pc game if consoles in the future fade away, but who knows.
So plug it into your tv. Consoles are really just smaller weaker PCs with exclusive first party titles and UIs that are geared toward controller navigation. It's all the same HDMI out.
SPACECADET
Member
console OS has a different feel to than a desktop OS. i just can't be swayed.
Steam Big Picture mode does a pretty good job of making it friendlier on TVs.
Angry Puppy
Member
I barely play any of my PC games at the desk. All on my couch or bed.
Thankfully we were both wrong then.
Buggy Loop
Member
Hell yea.
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Who would miss out on the return of the PC sim golden age? WHO?
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Torment: Tides of Numenera
Project eternity
Wasteland 2
Broken age
Routine
and the best versions of multi plat games
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Who would miss out on the return of the PC sim golden age? WHO?
And
Torment: Tides of Numenera
Project eternity
Wasteland 2
Broken age
Routine
and the best versions of multi plat games
Hell yea.
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Who would miss out on the return of the PC sim golden age? WHO?
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Torment: Tides of Numenera
Project eternity
Wasteland 2
Broken age
Routine
and the best versions of multi plat games
Wait! What! Is this real? Whats the name of that game? How much gor the stick? Tell me!!!!!!!!
I went PC only last gen and didn't regret it at all. One thing that's often overlooked is to go back and play older games at higher quality.
Imagine if you can play all PS3 games on the PS4 at 1080p (or higher), 60fps, with lots of AA. Oh and you can get mods and super high quality texture packs for free. This is something you could only do with PC gaming.
Imagine if you can play all PS3 games on the PS4 at 1080p (or higher), 60fps, with lots of AA. Oh and you can get mods and super high quality texture packs for free. This is something you could only do with PC gaming.
IncandescentPrecept
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Is it bad that I don't know any of these games?
Three words: Big. Picture. Mode.
Still doesn't completely free you from archaic, non living room compatible input methods like a keyboard.
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
Yeah I wish Big Picture mode wouldn't force me to navigate it with the arrow keys.
dragonbane
Member
Depends on your taste. I can't live without Naughty Dog's or Quantic Dream's exclusives, so I'm forced to buy a PS4 eventually. Multiplatform games I mostly play on PC, because of sales.
TheRagnCajun
Member
Its a viable option, especially if you've missed out on PC gaming for the last however many years.
But for me PC gaming has litttle to do with graphics, I'm still rockn' a HD4890. Its about indies, the KB&M, and the types of games for PC that you won't find on consoles.
But for me PC gaming has litttle to do with graphics, I'm still rockn' a HD4890. Its about indies, the KB&M, and the types of games for PC that you won't find on consoles.
Yeah.
Torment: Tides of Numenera - Spiritual successor to Planescape Torment.
Project Eternity - Baldur's gate style CRPG developed by Obsidian.
Wasteland 2 - Successor to the game that inspired Fallout.
Broken age - Double Fine developed adventure game.
Routine - Amazing looking sci-fi horror first person adventure.
You can control it with a controller.
Just have Windows start Steam at launch and set it to launch directly in BPM and all should be good.
Wow I actually haven't heard of Routine.
I'll add Spaceshock. I think it's been turned into a turn based game too!
Brofist
Member
Or just have Steam open in normal mode at startup and press the 360 guide button to open BPM as well. I still like having it initially open in normal desktop mode myself for some reason.
Not to get into the typical argument here, but by playing on a couch you sacrifice a considerable amount of button functionality as well as precision. Couch gamers are pretty much responsible for re-introducing varying degrees of auto-aim to first person shooters, which is an insult to the genre unless you're like 7 years old or have a disability.
Lots of games aren't very viable with a controller.
I think a lot of PC gamers need to accept that comfy couch gaming on a PC is simply *not* practical for a lot of people and just move on.
As far as being hunched over at a computer, I used to have the same complaint, but since getting a new chair(Ikea Markus), I'm quite happy to sit for long periods of time at my desk. I can recline in it, be nice and comfortable and still use the keyboard and mouse just fine.
Also, I thought of another reason to wait for a next-gen console:
petran79
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I agree more or less with that as well.
Regarding fighters and 2D fighters especially, the PC has quite a lot of variety.
If you include GGPO, Arclive and Supercade and the newest additions of USF4, Skullgirls, KOF13, Melty Blood etc in some cases it is even better than consoles.
Some console exclusive Japanese fighters are a little....specific, regarding their audience, hence they might wear off pretty quickly.
Also large TVs suffer mostly from input lag due to post-processing, unlike computer monitors.
PC lacks only 3D fighters, a weird decision by console developers, since if properly developed, they'd look great on PC.
Jrpgs unfortunately will fare even worse this gen, due to increased developing costs. Excluding FF, most are low budget productions. A 3DS or Vita would be a better choice for this.
Games like Ico, Journey and SOTC exist also on PC but apparently with lower budget and length. Such as the forthcoming Ghost of a Tale
That's the joke.
Thank you, that's all I wanted to stress here before. Doesn't matter if SOME games on PC are playable with a controller (without MP of course, you'd get destroyed) or that you can hook it up to your big screen TV. Unless every single piece of software and the operating system feature on a PC is accessible via a controller, and controller only, it simply will never be as practical as a console.
This is an absolute dealbreaker for me and many people. If you're not bothered by it though, a PC is most likely a better choice. I personally cannot stand a game that prompts me to press "E" or "Space" to open a door or pick up a weapon. Completely breaks the immersion for me, feel like I'm using a computer at work rather than playing a game. A keyboard has no business in gaming for me and should not be relied upon.
But then again, that's me.
I don't see how whether the buttom prompt saying 'A', 'E', 'Space' or 'X' or whatever really makes any difference. If you hate keyboards, fine, but that's a weird criticism to make in particular. Button prompts are hardly some PC-specific mechanism.
I was mainly speaking of the practical problems of wiring a computer to the living room, of using a controller for competitive shooters, RTS games and lots of other games without good controller support, and of space.
I play some of the m/k specific games with just my mouse on the arm of my recline on a mouse pad. works great.
The key issue here is the set up of getting USB wires from your PC to the chair.
I went the USB extension rout which was expensive because the only ones I could findin store were $35 a piece for 12ft and I needed 4 of them. I just strapped them all together neatly. it's worked great.
Damn. How far away are you sitting?
more than six feet from my PC which most USB cables are not even that. With the 12 ft I also can push the cables to the side so I do not have a wierd tether running across the room.
I probably wouldn't need 4 but I have a razer keyboard that has two USB connections. one just for back lighting power.
Especially when you have driver issues and configuring every game to the settings that work best for you. I especially love when I find out that my game plays differently than someone else because the video card I chose isn't the one that it was optimized for.
Just because something is technically superior doesn't always make it a better overall experience.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
"It just werks"
PixyJunket
Member
There are still some advantages to dedicated consoles, but at this point they are very minor when compared to say, twenty years ago, and even those little points of contention are slowly going away.
I am fully going to attempt to be PC and Wii U this generation.
I would really like to never support Sony or Microsoft with money ever again (for video games, at least).
I am fully going to attempt to be PC and Wii U this generation.
I would really like to never support Sony or Microsoft with money ever again (for video games, at least).
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
PC + Nintendo actually seems like a good combo. I think you may have something here.
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You're quite right on the other fronts but this particular line is nonsense. The PC has far greater number of experimental and artistic titles than comparable console counterparts due to its more open nature.
michaelius
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Bruce Campbell87
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you will spend 50 dollars for every years you want to play online, 20 dollars more(at least) for every game you decide to buy. So...tell me more about spending money, please.
Not to mention I happen to have both Ico and Shadow of the Colossus on my PC. Does the PS4 even play PS1/2 titles?
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I agree. I love it and am more than set up to run anything I want how I want but there is downfalls as well. I will take those downs with the ups any day.
That doesn't exactly discredit the ease of use that consoles bring for the mass market. We, as enthusiasts, are a fraction of the gaming market. Most people just want to turn device on and easily navigate to a game or music or video. And they want it to be accesible for their children as well. I don't want my 11 year old sifting through my PC looking for a game and play something he shouldn't on accident or get on the internet and look at things inappropriate for his age. I find this control easier to manage on a console than a PC.
You can list plenty of great reasons for PC like Star Citizen with Oculus support at amazing resolutions but that's really a niche crowd in the grand scheme of things. When most see what it costs to make that a possibility, the bubble bursts fast.
Some might not have the maturity to admit it but consoles are more convenient in a lot of ways. I can get my friends and family to buy the console version of Minecraft before they ever consider it on PC. The ease of use alone almost makes it better for most people despite things like mods and other PC benefits.
We can find reason and reason to go back and forth with this. It's best to at least respect what some consoles will bring to the table not just in terms of functionality/OS but the games. This is why I buy consoles to compliment my PC. I will always run the best games at their best as long as it comes to PC but I'm the only one I know who can do that. For the rest, I buy a PS4 and enjoy a tight next gen experience and the awesome exclusives or even PC ports/indies which none of my friends have ever played because they were only on PC.
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
I find using controllers to do anything beyond starting/playing a game to be awful. Doing anything in either console OS would take me like a tenth of the time on a normal OS with a mouse and keyboard.
I got back into PC gaming this year (last time was when Far Cry 1 came out) and I've fallen back in love with it. My setup cost £800 and runs most games on ultra; high for the more intensive if I want to maintain 60FPS (Metro: Last Light for example).
It's now at the point where I'm close to cancelling my PS4/XB1 preorder to save the money for a graphics card update next year.
There is something for everyone on this platform. Add in decent digital distribution platforms and you're onto a winner.
That's excluding everything else a PC can do.
It's now at the point where I'm close to cancelling my PS4/XB1 preorder to save the money for a graphics card update next year.
There is something for everyone on this platform. Add in decent digital distribution platforms and you're onto a winner.
That's excluding everything else a PC can do.
RibbedHero
Member
Was this post made in 2009? Because cards that blow the next0gen consoles out of the water have been out since 2010-2011.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
On paper they do but people always under estimate consoles with their tight and well thought out architectures which often work much better in unison than putting a PC together with 5 difference parts. That's why we're seeing games that look as good as Killzone and Infamous and this is just the beginning.
I had a long rant written but in the end I decided just to post this: http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=679&card2=675
It compares the HD7970 GHz Edition and the HD7770, the equivalent of which will appear in XO. You have to literally be unable to comprehend numbers to think, after seeing this, that the XO can ever approach the performance of the HD7970 GHz Ed., available since, oh, the summer of last year.
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