ChorizoPicozo
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I never understood that argument. what was the point of it?
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80%+ of Horizon Forbidden West's sales across Europe were not part of a bundle
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DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
People were saying Horizon Forbidden West flopped and it was only selling because of bundles.
DaGwaphics
Member
Only if you are desperate to be a victim in one way or another.
I think there were a few posters that kept posting about it, but one or two guys does not make a meaningful rumor.
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ZehDon
Gold Member
I don't think we have sales numbers, but I seriously doubt it flopped. At worst, it underperformed - but it's been charting fine since last year I thought? I know Elden Ring kind of took its lunch money, but Elden Ring was a juggernaut - it took everyone's lunch money, and none of those other games were labelled as flops. The internet is funny.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
LOL! Exactly.
remember_spinal
Banned
Its the 8th best selling game of the year (without bundles), only really eclipsed by multiplatform titles, god of war and pokemon
November 2022 NPD: 20 best-selling games of 2022 so far
| Rank | Last Month Rank | All Platforms | Publisher |
| 1 | 2 | Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II (2022) | Activision Blizzard (Corp) |
| 2 | 1 | Elden Ring | Bandai Namco Entertainment |
| 3 | 4 | Madden NFL 23 | Electronic Arts |
| 4 | 3 | LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga | Warner Bros. Interactive |
| 5 | NEW | God of War Ragnarök | Sony (Corp) |
| 6 | 5 | Pokémon Legends: Arceus* | Nintendo |
| 7 | NEW | Pokémon Scarlet/Violet* | Nintendo |
| 8 | 6 | Horizon II: Forbidden West | Sony (Corp) |
| 9 | 8 | FIFA 23 | Electronic Arts |
| 10 | 7 | MLB: The Show 22^ | Multiple Video Game Manufacturers |
| 11 | 9 | Call of Duty: Vanguard | Activision Blizzard (Corp) |
| 12 | 10 | Gran Turismo 7 | Sony (Corp) |
| 13 | 11 | Mario Kart 8* | Nintendo |
| 14 | 12 | Kirby and the Forgotten Land | Nintendo |
| 15 | 14 | Gotham Knights | Warner Bros. Interactive |
| 16 | 13 | Minecraft | Multiple Video Game Manufacturers |
| 17 | 21 | NBA 2K23* | Take-Two Interactive |
| 18 | 15 | Nintendo Switch Sports* | Nintendo |
| 19 | 20 | Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales | Sony (Corp) |
| 20 | 22 | Animal Crossing: New Horizons* | Nintendo |
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GHG
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There was a song and dance every time the game topped the sales charts:
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/hori...-no-1-uk-boxed-charts.1638185/#post-266306822
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/5-mo...uks-boxed-sales-chart.1639448/#post-266408949
Thankfully many of the worst (dumbest) offenders are no longer with us.
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ChorizoPicozo
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22:22:22
NO PAIN TRANCE CONTINUE
Dick Jones
Gold Member
Both Horizon titles have been unfairly bashed at launch. While it took until 2020 for the narrative to change that HZD was a great game, I'm hoping the recent positive news on HFW is the beginning of the general gaming media to see it too as a great game.
The artful mincer
Member
People forgot that prior to elden ring horizon zero dawn was bigger than any game FromSoftware game.I guess Guerilla / Sony underestimated the potential overlap of the target audience for the two games, and frankly so did i. I did not think Forbidden West players would simply move to Elden Ring en-masse, because it is such a different game.
But yes, Forbidden West is fucking amazing, and Aloy is......
Games blow up like elden ring very rarely
remember_spinal
Banned
It wouldn’t even surprised me if a couple years from now Horizon and Elden Rings LTD numbers end up pretty close together
The artful mincer
Member
I am not sure I think Forbidden west will continue to sell really well. May end up over 20 million again.
But elden ring seems to be at another level it at 17.5 million already. It could end up being the best selling game not named call of duty or GTA. I guess we will see!
ChainedDreamer
Neo Member
of course it is a very successful game.
That's why they're making a goddamn DLC and a Netflix adaptation is on the way.
That's why they're making a goddamn DLC and a Netflix adaptation is on the way.
lughnasadh123
Member
There's been a weird, irrational reaction to Horizon ever since the first game launched. It goes up against two titans each time that not only doesn't kill it like some seem to think (hope) it does, but it actually quietly thrives ensuring we get another. While not my favorite Sony series, it's certainly a damn good one that holds it's own easily.
remember_spinal
Banned
The only explanation i can think of is that for people that are anti-sony its just one less franchise they have to worry about behind held over there heads. If they pretend its bad or ignored then they can also continue to ignore it.
Thats not really gonna work with like 15 different projects coming out for it though. Its gonna continue being eclipsed by slightly better games and continue making money for Sony
Horizon is pretty much Sonys Xenoblade
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Topher
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poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Wouldn't that be the opposite? The game selling 1 million PS5's as part of a bundle is a bigger deal and implies more that exclusives are important to the success of a console than if it just sold 5 million copies to existing owners.
SLB1904
Banned
Not happening
TheThreadsThatBindUs
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Kupfer
Member
I really wanted to like the game but I ended up being upset about it and the time I wasted until I reached the "hub-area". Didn't play any further, since all characters annoyed me and the story didn't make me curious like HZD.
Vick
told me to "at the very least activate Poseidon." but I just can't bring myself to start the game again.At what point did it click for you?
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Condom.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Right on this forum. Every thread about Horizon's charting and sales numbers got sidetracked because "but it was part of the bundle, which accounted for the majority of the sales" and "Sony is artificially increasing Horizon's numbers look good with bundles, but in reality Horizon failed."
MasterCornholio
Member
Only by extreme fan dum dums that are a minority on this site. Still they were pretty vocal about the forced bundles conspiracy.
remember_spinal
Banned
looks like sonys trying to inflate the numbers of the dualsense now
Their argument was the stupid idea that they didn't want HFW but were somehow forced to get it to be able to get a PS5. Even though MW2, FIFA, etc were bundled too. Some now banned user was even saying 50%+ of HFW sales were from bundles. Then he later said it was "just a guess".
FingerBang
Member
After reaching the hub area when the rest of the map opens up and you go after the different AI. I think the story is just ok, and I dislike most characters, but there's a lot to like about the level design, the different environments and the combat.I really wanted to like the game but I ended up being upset about it and the time I wasted until I reached the "hub-area". Didn't play any further, since all characters annoyed me and the story didn't make me curious like HZD.
At what point did it click for you?
That said my gf has been having a lot of fun hearing me shout "FOR GOD'S SAKE SHUT UP" to Aloy every 5 minutes.
lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
dualsense not selling!!!???? Sony trying to save dualsense sales!!!???
lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
no one invited you.
crackajack
Member
Wasn't the Horizon bundle available only relatively short? Similar as the Fifa Bundle. With a more limited availability of the naked console or bundle in general. It did run a few weeks and kind of stopped. GoW seems to be pushed harder now. At least beyond xmas for now and I guess more bundles get sold now than they were with previous bundles. But I guess those games sell anyway too. And wth current bundles you pay and buy the bundled game anyway.
Bundles were great, basically free games in the past. Now you pay 1:1 the actual price, so if you want the console you have to get a game you might not even want that much.
But with relatively short bundle periods none will get boosted that much. It might add a couple but in the long run it should not alter much of the sales.
Bundles were great, basically free games in the past. Now you pay 1:1 the actual price, so if you want the console you have to get a game you might not even want that much.
But with relatively short bundle periods none will get boosted that much. It might add a couple but in the long run it should not alter much of the sales.
The artful mincer
Member
Well like I said "Could " Hogwarts Legacy may dethrone it next month!
Having said that what 3rd party game retail game do you think could outsell it? I think it's likely it will be top 5 by the end of the generation. Definitely Top 10 (If we exclude games from the same franchise)
Kupfer
Member
Yep, she's such an annoying brat. This is the only case I remember I don't want to play as the character which is presented.
I can't put up with this wannabe grandstanding with a dash of pathos and a smugness that borders on arrogance.
Since I personally don't like the combat system either and it's worse than HZD with its complexity of different weapons, mid-game weapon selection options, duplicate button assignments, abilities, ultimates and combos, it was probably just a nice tech demo for me, but I won't remember HFW as a good game.
He self requested a ban. That's why.
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FingerBang
Member
It's ok, not every game is for everyone. I think I like FW more than ZD because of the different weapons, enemies and mounts. There is a lot of grinding/hunting required to get the weapons to be satisfactory and I completely understand not wanting to put in the time. I also think there are too many unnecessary mechanics and the 6 fucking different upgrade paths are ridiculous but I can see why people might like the chance of having different "builds".
RickSanchez
Member
is he a known Horizon hater ?
Spaceman292
Banned
What? That's literally all people talk about. Probably because everything else about it is kind of dull.
The Cockatrice
Member
Only a small number on gaf. Outside that water twitter and DF, have not seen people praising it as much as it should.
Spaceman292
Banned
Pretty sure every single reviewer mentioned it. And there was basically a whole thread on here composed of screenshots from the game when it released. Also everyone on youtube. And in the OT.
The Cockatrice
Member
22:22:22
NO PAIN TRANCE CONTINUE
Lol great gif. More like to many times. Sorry man about responding like i did. You know when you feel a fart coming up and you should hold it in. Well I didn't. My bad for entering these threads.
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