Mhmmm 2077
Member
Zen 3 CPUs: October 8, 2020
RDNA 2 GPUs: October 28, 2020
I thought it's worth of a thread.
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AMD announced the dates for revealing Zen 3 and RDNA 2
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Zen 3 CPUs: October 8, 2020
RDNA 2 GPUs: October 28, 2020
I thought it's worth of a thread.
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MarkMe2525
Member
They must have a lot of PR spin strategies to go through. They need to be cheeeeeeeeeeap. Give us the XSX gpu for $199!!!
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DemonCleaner
Member
typical AMD marketing fail once again.
hyping something guerilla style via twitter yesterday, just to announce an announcement.
an announcement that is coming 1.5 months to late.
everybody's gonna buy nvidia in the meantime.
hyping something guerilla style via twitter yesterday, just to announce an announcement.
an announcement that is coming 1.5 months to late.
everybody's gonna buy nvidia in the meantime.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Finally!
Bring on that Zen 3 goodness. PC build is waiting in the wings!
Bring on that Zen 3 goodness. PC build is waiting in the wings!
Evangelion Unit-01
Master Chief
Nice. Looking forward to the new CPUs for my new build. Curious to see how the GPU stacks up as well.
DemonCleaner
Member
have fun!
thought about it. but i will probably stick with 3700x over the crossgen period and go with something that supports DDR5 after.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Ryzen 4000 is going to absolutely dominate. RDNA2...will be competitive and surprise some people. Bit concerned by how late that is being shown (28th) though.
The Mad Draklor
Member
That's so far off for RDNA2. What's going to happen is that after AMD announces their RNDA2 cards (which I expect to be very competitive against the 3070 and 3080), Nvidia will announce the Ti variants.
Bolivar687
Banned
A very bold statement but October 28 seems like a lifetime away.
Unlikely, supply is said to be unusually low.
Unlikely, supply is said to be unusually low.
SantaC
Member
Thats what been said all the time. The graphic cards have always been late Q4.
This is not news.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I've not built a new PC in quite a while, if I had a 3700x I would probably hold off as well.
Can't hold out any longer, so Zen 3 build, and then upgrade down the road if I have to.
DemonCleaner
Member
DemonCleaner
Member
as i love building PCs im kinda jelly. best time to build a PC in a long time!
GreatnessRD
Member
I'm salty the GPUs aren't showing anything till damn near the launch of the new consoles. It has now put in my mind that Big navi might not be up to snuff like I'm hoping. I am excited to see Vermeer though. Hoping Asus gives my B450 a beta bios like everyone else. But it appears doubtful.
Mhmmm 2077
Member
Nobody expected AMD to compete with Intel too and here we are.
CrysisFreak
Banned
Zen 3 PS5 Pro down the line maybe?
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Btw, Ryzen has broken the magic 5Ghz boost clock barrier with 4000. At least on one of their SKUs. Take it to the bank.
B-universe
Banned
Nvidia's timing and marketing is so on-point.
Their 3000 series reveal was so lean, so smooth, so well-executed that Microsoft, Sony and AMD would benefit from taking a page out of their PR-during-Covid book.
Could it be AMD was forced to clumsily announce the announcement for events that are more than a month away precisley because they quickly wanted to get the message out that they have something competitive up their sleeves and people should, in their minds at least, hold off on buying a RTX3000 card?
RoboFu
One of the green rats
Basically they have been caught off guard by NVidia and are now trying to duct tape something together that will not be an absolute embarassment and at the same time will not cause the company to lose money on every sku sold.
Who could have predicted that?
nah there isn't anytime left for that partner cards are already speced out according to many sources.
I guess they could announce something coming in the future though.
DemonCleaner
Member
navi22 is rumoured to be around 56 to 64 of RDNA2 CUs. so roughly series X silicon with higher clocks (min 2Ghz). hopefully that will slot in the 5700xt price segment (maybe rx 6700 (56CUs) and 6700xt (64CUs) ... like 400 to 450 bucks. but it may end up as the 6800 line depending on how well it clocks. however it should beat the 3060 handily and be at 2080ti/3070 level.
DemonCleaner
Member
absolutely!
i would think so. they probably don't confidently know how good rtx availability will be.
KormaChameleon
Member
Even though I recently purchased an RX5500XT. I'd quite happily upgrade if it was.
00_Zer0
Member
I welcome competition, because I don't always choose Nvidia for my GPU, as a matter of fact I quite like my Sapphire Nitro Plus RX 5700 XT in the rig I have now.
I knew when I got the card that AMD's drivers were weak, but also I knew that the 20 series (specifically the 2070 and the 2070 Super) had weak sauce ray tracing functionality, so I chose the 5700 XT and I was mostly not disappointed. It's a great 1440p card with custom software from Sapphire that outdoes many of the bells and whistles that AMD offers.
The thing is, ray tracing and DLSS seem like they will be widely adopted this time around, and I don't trust AMD to compete head to head with those kinds of features. I fully expect AMD to be one step behind. With the RTX 3080 I'm ensured to get all the bells and whistles without the hassle of worrying about faulty driver updates or software functionality.
I think that they will show their "flagship" which is what they planned to be their high end and will have similar performance to RTX 3070 (not sure about ray tracing performance though) and also the duct taped "beast" card that will at least on some level on paper fall somewhere between RTX 3080 and 3090 (TFLOPS anyone?).nah there isn't anytime left for that partner cards are already speced out according to many sources.
I guess they could announce something coming in the future though.
Nehezir
Banned
nah. I just got my 2070 like...a year ago? Imma wait. don't have to upgrade every generation.
I do agree that AMD Lags behind tho.
MiguelItUp
Member
Seems late, but at least we have a date.
I'm actually kind of surprised they decided to reveal them at different times too. Why not just lump it into one exciting reveal?
I'm actually kind of surprised they decided to reveal them at different times too. Why not just lump it into one exciting reveal?
ScaryBrandon
Banned
How can you be so clueless? Its an architecture that has been in development for 5 years and we knew RDNA2 was coming in November more than 6 months ago.
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ZywyPL
Banned
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
It’s too late to sway early adopters from picking up a 3080 or even a 3070. Dumb move.
ScaryBrandon
Banned
These guys were always going to buy nvidia. They were only hoping that amd might force nvidia to lower the price of their card.
Precisely why they are scrambling at the moment which is evidenced by these terrible pr moves. Their long term strategy did not predict the significance of raytracing and utilising machine learning.
Not that AMD has significant share in the gaming market, but by allowing NVidia to ride the hype wave and restock they are basically ensuring that the only people using their gpus will be die hard fans and crypto miners.
ScaryBrandon
Banned
Rushing would be releasing a gpu in September-October which they are not. They are sticking to their plan ignoring whatever nvidia is doing.
Ascend
Member
nVidia releases cards first: AMD is always late!
AMD releases cards first: Hm, I better wait for nVidia.
In fact, AMD would be better off financially by allocating all their resources to create more Zen 3 CPUs and leave Radeon in the dust. If they didn't think they could be competitive, they simply wouldn't bother.
And btw, they announced way before nVidia's announcement that their RDNA2 graphics cards would be out before the consoles... So...
AMD releases cards first: Hm, I better wait for nVidia.
No one is capable of launching a card from scratch in one month. It's much more reasonable to assume that they were simply waiting to see what nVidia does, and then answer accordingly. That is something that can be done in a month.Basically they have been caught off guard by NVidia and are now trying to duct tape something together that will not be an absolute embarassment and at the same time will not cause the company to lose money on every sku sold.
Who could have predicted that?
In fact, AMD would be better off financially by allocating all their resources to create more Zen 3 CPUs and leave Radeon in the dust. If they didn't think they could be competitive, they simply wouldn't bother.
And btw, they announced way before nVidia's announcement that their RDNA2 graphics cards would be out before the consoles... So...
Consoles exist.
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In CPUs at least.
CuNi
Member
So RDNA2 GPUs are literally DOA.
I'm not going to wait 1.5 months for a paper launch on something that is rumored to "maybe, maybe not" compete with a 3080.
Also it'll probably be another 2-4 weeks from announcement to actual release, so actual RDNA release is in november, most likely alongside consoles.
Yeah no thank you. I'll get that Zen3 CPU to go with my 3080.
Sorry AMD, maybe next time you get your timing right.
I'm not going to wait 1.5 months for a paper launch on something that is rumored to "maybe, maybe not" compete with a 3080.
Also it'll probably be another 2-4 weeks from announcement to actual release, so actual RDNA release is in november, most likely alongside consoles.
Yeah no thank you. I'll get that Zen3 CPU to go with my 3080.
Sorry AMD, maybe next time you get your timing right.
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
That’s too late for my timeline. Going with Ampere. I don’t feel like waiting around that long just to find out the specs and performance, let alone buy it.