http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0370263/board/flat/11022775
God knows how accurate this is, but it looks sorta legit.
God knows how accurate this is, but it looks sorta legit.
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AVP was originally a R-rated movie, R-Rated DVD forthcoming
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WHOAguitarninja
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Does he have 2 middle names?
It's one thing to make a bad film, take notice of the mistakes and seek to correct that kind of thing in the future. It's a whole other story when you blindly discredit criticism and think you made a great film and you don't need to step it up next time.
And sorry, but no matter what the rating is or what footage is added, the movie isn't anywhere near great.
And sorry, but no matter what the rating is or what footage is added, the movie isn't anywhere near great.
Warm Machine
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The thing is that Paul Anderson knows how to compose a shot, light a scene, and piece together a complete movie. He also has a knack for pulling out some really punchy edits. The problem is that he just isn't consistent throughout a film. He'll do half of it right and the other half will just fall apart.
You can tell where he loses interest in his movies and generally that is any time someone has to open their mouths. The rest of the time he is too quick to show you what he thinks you want to see.
Each of his films has a few great and memorable shots in them. Johnny Cage walking through the rows of trees before the fight with Scorpion. The strobing light tunnel part of the ship in Event Horizon. The Alien beneath the light beam in AVP. Etc. It is ideas like those that make me believe that he isn't completely stupid.
Uwe Boll on the other hand cannot do anything right.
You can tell where he loses interest in his movies and generally that is any time someone has to open their mouths. The rest of the time he is too quick to show you what he thinks you want to see.
Each of his films has a few great and memorable shots in them. Johnny Cage walking through the rows of trees before the fight with Scorpion. The strobing light tunnel part of the ship in Event Horizon. The Alien beneath the light beam in AVP. Etc. It is ideas like those that make me believe that he isn't completely stupid.
Uwe Boll on the other hand cannot do anything right.
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Warm Machine said:
I think nobody can argue that.
Event Horizon was Paul W.S Anderson's only REAL good movie.
MK was also great, but not what it could have been: Casting Christophe Lambert as Rayden was perfect.
I just hope the MK3 movie is better than Mk2.
ToyMachine228
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I seriously liked AVP. And if a Director's Cut DVD comes out...I will probably knab it.
Warm Machine
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You can tell Anderson did most of the creative work of the shooting and lighting on Mortal Kombat because the cinematographer of the first movie was the director of the 2nd and there isn't a single decent frame of film in Annihilation.
Another single shot that I remember from Mortal Kombat that impressed me was in the introduction of Johnny Cage where they are filming his latest movie. Johnny is shown in a silhouette shot against a bright background with the sliding warehouse doors expanding the frame. That shot was excellent but then followed up with some syndicated tv show style boring fighting direction.
Anderson just loves to drop the ball throughout his films. It always bugged me in the dinner scene when we first see Goro that instead of him being hidden in shadow at the end of the table and speaking from the darkness he is there as clear as day. Anderson just threw away the build up to show us what he thought we wanted to see.
Another single shot that I remember from Mortal Kombat that impressed me was in the introduction of Johnny Cage where they are filming his latest movie. Johnny is shown in a silhouette shot against a bright background with the sliding warehouse doors expanding the frame. That shot was excellent but then followed up with some syndicated tv show style boring fighting direction.
Anderson just loves to drop the ball throughout his films. It always bugged me in the dinner scene when we first see Goro that instead of him being hidden in shadow at the end of the table and speaking from the darkness he is there as clear as day. Anderson just threw away the build up to show us what he thought we wanted to see.
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ToyMachine228 said:
I liked the movie as well and was going to pick up the DVD anyway. This news, if the real deal, is good to hear.
i swear, is everyone an angry mob nowadays? it's now "cool" to blindly slam everything Anderson does? call off the torches and pitchforks... Event Horizen, Mortal Kombat, Resident Evil and AvP were all very entertaining and at worst 'decent' flicks. Especially with MK and AvP... wtf were you expecting? The premise of those two are pretty cheesy as it is. He did pretty good with what material was there IMO.
ToyMachine228 said:
Of Paul's movies:
Mortal Kombat(love it, own the DVD)
Event Horizon(have only seen bits and pieces but liked what I saw)
Soldier(love it, own the DVD)
Resident Evil((love it, own the DVD)
And I'll be adding AVP to that list when it comes out on DVD.
Lord Error
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It's interesting that all his movies have interesting bits and pieces in them, but just fail to sustain some reasonable quality as a whole. For the record, I think AvP is his best and most entertaining movie, but is by far the worst movie of both franchizes. Much of my entertainment with AvP, and the decision to say that this is his best movie, relies on the pre-established Alien and Predator imagery and has basically nothing to do with his directing, but with people doing visual efects and costumes... Pieces of scenery reminding me of MGS games also helped some, I think 
Marconelly said:It's interesting that all his movies have interesting bits and pieces in them, but just fail to sustain some reasonable quality as a whole. For the record, I think AvP is his best and most entertaining movie, but is by far the worst movie of both franchizes. Much of my entertainment with AvP, and the decision to say that this is his best movie, relies on the pre-established Alien and Predator imagery and has basically nothing to do with his directing, but with people doing visual efects and costumes... Pieces of scenery reminding me of MGS games also helped some, I think
uh, maybe you don't remember Predator 2 so well.
I rented Predator 2 just last week, and though I enjoyed AvP, it's not nearly as good throughout as Predator 2. That was about as good of a sequel as you could expect without Arnold.DopeyFish said:
"There's no stopping what can't be stopped, no killing what can't be killed... This is dread man, truly dread."
Warm Machine
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Tritroid said:
He is only producing it. Ridley Scott's camera operator is directing it.
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As Newt said in Aliens, "It won't make any difference."
Warm Machine
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Soldier is his worst movie, and a terrible movie in its own right for a number of reasons. First off, these are supposed to be the top trained and most kick ass soliders in the galaxy...so why do they walk slowly across the battlefield in plain view of everyone firing like a broken robot?
The montage in the middle of the movie is an editors crime. All it does is recount everything we have seen up to that point in the movie. Guess what! We know what happens up to that point in the movie, that is how we got to where we are! It was cobbled together to extend the film another 3 minutes!
The part with the snake and the boot was laughably bad.
I can hardly remember the rest of the movie and I know there are more terrible decisions in it but damn do I ever want to buy it! Just to hear the Anderson commentary track it would be worth it.
The montage in the middle of the movie is an editors crime. All it does is recount everything we have seen up to that point in the movie. Guess what! We know what happens up to that point in the movie, that is how we got to where we are! It was cobbled together to extend the film another 3 minutes!
The part with the snake and the boot was laughably bad.
I can hardly remember the rest of the movie and I know there are more terrible decisions in it but damn do I ever want to buy it! Just to hear the Anderson commentary track it would be worth it.
The problem with Anderson is that his movies can be entertaining but just think how good the movies he's done would of been with an excellent director. Imagine AvP with either Ridley Scott, James Cameron, or even Mctiernan. One reason he gets so much hate on the internet is apparenlty Soldier was one of the best action scripts ever written and he totally mangled the movie.
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Ridley, Cameron, or McTiernan would never have directed AVP given any script. They would have had to search out some young hotshot who loved the material it was based on. Anderson was probably right time right place.
DonasaurusRex
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I thought event horizon was awesome, hey every dog has its day right
shuri said:
exactly, not to mention a lot of people seem to be forgetting the existance of Alien: Resurrection and Predator 2. :\
You all act like Anderson brought those series down or something. Oooo look Danny Glover is an intersteller hunter now... ohh look at ripley fuck an alien and lets see it's offspring.
but yeah anderson cheesed it up. :|
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