CobraAB
Member
But it wasn’t ridiculous when MS announced they were buying Blizzard/Activision?
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Hari Seldon
Member
There is no fucking way Destiny has more players than PUBG on all platforms. PUBG is huge in India and has like 700 million downloads lmfao. They made 244 million in revenue in just December 2021.
EDIT: China, not India. They made 68.2% of their mobile revenue in China. There is 0% chance that a big mobile game in China is not outdrawing a non-mobile game not in China unless it was like the biggest thing in India lol.
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Banjo64
cumsessed
Serious question then, if that’s the case what have Sony spent £3b on?
Hawking Radiation
Member
HOLY SHIT WHAT?
Let me take a quick piss. I hope its straight
EDIT: Stream is curved to the left. Fuck you Sony.
Let me take a quick piss. I hope its straight
EDIT: Stream is curved to the left. Fuck you Sony.
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Buggy Loop
Member
Are you serious?
Let’s see,
Member when peoples lost their collective minds about Disney buyouts?
Marvel, $4B
Lucasfilm, $4B
Now we have,
Destiny, $3.6B
Prices are getting ridiculous. This is almost scalper territory.
Twinblade
Member
Got me thinking that Sony has plans for Bungie outside of Destiny... perhaps a new Socom revival?
Yoboman
Gold Member
Bethesda is "100% independent" too, do you expect them to go and make future IPs for Playstation?
'Free' with Spartacus, full price on Xbox. That's the likely play here. Nets the most revenue, pisses off no one.
I called this with COD. People keep saying COD is the likely contender to go exclusive, but in my view it is the reverse. COD free on GP, full price on PlayStation. Whilst MS has more room to not require netting the most revenue it can, it does not piss PlayStation owners off but rather give them maximum incentive to switch. Much better to have someone say 'man I need to get Game Pass so I can get the game for 'free', what a deal' than to have them think 'screw them for taking my game away from me'.
yurinka
Member
I think it was important for them to own, and also have someone to teach their other teams:
-Top tier FPS games
-Top tier MP games with huge communities
-GaaS
Plus they make sure MS doesn't keep them away from PS.
Sony now doesn't only has Destiny and Bungie, they also have a 2nd party game coming from a studio of former Halo/Destiny/Apex Legend leads and another one from former COD BO leads.
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Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
good call fuck
sooo sony basically just steals masterchief
Ezquimacore
Banned
I'm specifically talking about Sony, not "a company" Sony needs more cash in hands than shares because of their value in the market. Amazon could buy 99% of epic with just stocks and they would be just fine, Sony would have to give a third of their company.
ManaByte
Rage Bait Youtuber
No they aren't. They don't have their own board of directors. They're under Microsoft Games.
Bungie is a SIE subsidiary, but they maintain their own board of directors and remain a self-publisher. They aren't part of PlayStation Studios.
The real question is, does this really signal the acquisition war?
I feel like this one is just for the sake of an acquisition.
Its not a catalog of titles for gamepass, its not gonna be exclusive, it doesnt really do much other than add a studio and revenue to Sony.
I think we are gonna see almost all devs be bought, and bought shortly. This really is the beginning.
Any companies out there wanting ip needs to act swiftly or the shelves are gonna be bare. That the definition of buying pressure.
I feel like this one is just for the sake of an acquisition.
Its not a catalog of titles for gamepass, its not gonna be exclusive, it doesnt really do much other than add a studio and revenue to Sony.
I think we are gonna see almost all devs be bought, and bought shortly. This really is the beginning.
Any companies out there wanting ip needs to act swiftly or the shelves are gonna be bare. That the definition of buying pressure.
Maybe, but not interested in GaaS or MP games.
And the "teach their other teams" is the part I'm worried about.
tmlDan
Member
We don't know the technicalities of the deal, there were nuances to the MS deal that led to where it ended, obviously.
I doubt they would make that mistake in acquisition agreements, and things could still change in the future as former leadership fades off the board.
Negotiator101
Gold Member
Half?
captainnapalm
Member
If I could have picked a company I wouldn't mind losing access to, Bungie would be way up there - although doesn't look they'll abandon PC anyway.
I remember a while back I finally gave Destiny a try and then a day after installing the game, Bungie announced they were locking away most of the early content. I took that as a sign that me and games like Destiny just weren't meant to be. The game already seemed pretty unfriendly to new players anyway.
I remember a while back I finally gave Destiny a try and then a day after installing the game, Bungie announced they were locking away most of the early content. I took that as a sign that me and games like Destiny just weren't meant to be. The game already seemed pretty unfriendly to new players anyway.
DaGwaphics
Member
For now. You don't get to sell your business and stay in full control of it, otherwise, what is it that was purchased?
Sony will have the authority to do what they want. They may agree to something today and then change course down the line. They will be able to dissolve the board at their choosing, not saying they will, but they could.
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Stuart360
Member
Microsofts main goal is Gamepass, and growing it. To do that you need hardware sales as Gamepass is a game download service. Sony IMO will never allow Gamepass on Playstation as it would just be too bad of a look. So Microsoft need Xbox sales, and COD being Xbox console exclusive will deliver that in droves.
Oddvintagechap
Member
Disney made out like a Bandit.
Marvel + Lucasfilm = ZeniMax
Fox = Activision.
900+ studio is going to make a New IP not some failed old IP like Killzone or Socom.
ZehDon
Member
Not a specific link, no. I believe their next game is a F2P MMO-ish game called Matter, and some of the concept art that has come out on a few fan sites gives a strong medial fantasy vibe. But, so did some of the early Destiny stuff.
Banjo64
cumsessed
I wish people would stop talking about games like SOCOM and Killzone - they are even more irrelevant than Banjo Kazooie.
Captain Toad
Banned
They bought them to have a foot in the GaaS/online multi-player market along with the recurring revenue associated with that. Destiny will continue to be huge.
nkarafo
Member
Yeah, i hope someone buys Konami before this dies out.
Twinblade
Member
Never.
Kokoloko85
Member
Normally I wouldnt want sony to buy IP’s but in todays market with MS buying loads of 3rd party IP’s, Playstation need do buy some too.
Some playstation fans prefer if playstation keep more playstation traditional ip’s secure like Resident Evil, MGS, Silent Hill, PES, Final Fantasy, Persona etc.
Im sure they can have Kojima work with MGS and Silent Hill, or Zone of Enders. Im sure they can get a proper team to work on PES etc
Plus games like castlevania, bomberman, that weird card game, suikoden which is a JRPG, as they are lacking. Plenty better IP than destiny
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
100% false!
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
lol they didnt spend $3.6 billion just to look like you're not doing anything. If MS was trying to buy Bungie like reports suggest then Sony HAD to act. They overpaid to save their business. It's really as simple as that.
ZehDon
Member
Then why are you trying to correct people? You clearly don't understand Bungie, their history, or how IPs are handled.
Bungie have never signed a deal for their IP once in their history. Today, Bungie confirmed in full that not only would they continue to independently publish their games, but their next un-announced game won't be a PlayStation exclusive at all. This reads like a typical Bungie deal to me, meaning Sony didn't buy their IPs.
LordOcidax
Member
3.6 Billion for Destiny??? I am missing something here??? WTH…
yurinka
Member
Seems that Sony started the Bungie acquisition 5-6 months ago, while according to WSJ -a month after Spencer said they were going to reevaluate their relationship with ABK due to the controversies-, MS approached ABK for the first time last month interested on acquiring them.Sony: "Microsoft give us call of duty after 2023!"
Spencer: "lol nope we have the most popular fps now"
Sony: "that's it, we bought Bungie! Now hand over call of duty or we won't release destiny 3 on xbox!"
Spencer:
Man, what a weird flex and move. I would rather save up to buy something worth y money rather than waste it on a developer that hasn't been shined since last time they made games for Microsoft.
Eating up the scraps.
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Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
What part of it can be a mix do you not get?
They're 110 billion or something in valuation right now, they have around 20 billion in cash on hand, and they've make a 5 year average of 8 billion in free cash flow
Thry could for example, use 15 million of their own cash on hand, issue 20 billion, which can be paid off within less than three years and pay the rest in stocks
Does that sound difficult to you?
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BaneIsPain
Member
Good for Jim. This is getting boring.
I want game exclusive competition, not studio exclusive purchase competition.
I want game exclusive competition, not studio exclusive purchase competition.
tommib
Gold Member
I cringe every time I read about these dead and buried IPs. There’s even people talking about ressurecting Motorstorm.
Leyasu
Banned
Both COD and Bungies next game will be pc and respective platform exclusive. Once one is announced exclusive the other will just shrug their shoulders and reciprocate.
DJ12
Member
Sony and Microsoft are only in competition in their fanboys minds these days.
MS are no threat to Sony's console business.
Sony are no threat to Microsofts Software business.
In these enlightened times, it really wouldn't surprise me to see Bungie making another Halo game, that's multiplatform.
I also wouldn't be surprised to see Uncharted on xbox either.
The times are changing.
tmlDan
Member
You also don't understand that they are owned by Sony now, the reason for the MS fallout was that MS wanted them to just make Halo and they did not.
MS still owned them, the only threat they could make was everyone quitting or making their own studio.
Sony could still give them creative freedom, and still say ya know what, make what you want but its no on MS platforms.
you cannot deny, no matter what they say about being independent, they are OWNED by Sony and are too big to do what they did in 2007 when they threatened MS to quit if they didn't let them break off on their own. It's rare that EVER happens, wake up.
ethomaz
Banned
It was launched late on Steam.
The original launcher is Battle.net.
In any case I don’t know how that Steam DB works because around 30% of activity are PC users.
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Ouch.I know. Konami in particular is a hilarious claim. They’ve absolutely gutted their gaming arm.
The one game they still make is now so absurdly bad it’s practically buried the franchise forever.
£20 for Konami would be £20 too much.