Nah, dudes got enough industry good will to have a couple bombs before people give up on him.
Besides, if nothing else he'll become a 'Consultant' preferably a 'F2P Consultant'.
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Cliffy B's new game is BlueStreak, a sci-fi f2p PC arena shooter with Nexon
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Nah, dudes got enough industry good will to have a couple bombs before people give up on him.
Besides, if nothing else he'll become a 'Consultant' preferably a 'F2P Consultant'.
Leafhopper
Banned
Nexon bought a good chunk of NCSoft and City of Heroes was cancelled a few months later.
Herbspiceguy
Member
F2P games have become very succesful over recent years, with veteran developers also adopting to this system. Multiple games have shown you don't have to go the P2W route either to be succesful.
CliffyB famous for UT, has said before that he'd like to return to the arena shooter genre on the PC.
Why then are people so surprised at this move and/or saying this is going to bomb/fail?
CliffyB famous for UT, has said before that he'd like to return to the arena shooter genre on the PC.
Why then are people so surprised at this move and/or saying this is going to bomb/fail?
randomengine
Banned
F2P
Multiplayer
Arena
Shooter
Most unoriginal, design-by-committee bullshit. Come on try something, you know, original, that nobody else is doing. This will just come out and thud and be forgotten.
Multiplayer
Arena
Shooter
Most unoriginal, design-by-committee bullshit. Come on try something, you know, original, that nobody else is doing. This will just come out and thud and be forgotten.
Herbspiceguy
Member
wanted to edit, then made a double post
BeekleMatter
Member
Unlock the fun is the absolute worst wording for a free to play game.
Syphon Filter
Member
Arena shooters barely exist now in days,you act like if there is an abundance of them lol.
Really, because I thought of this:This is all I'm thinking about
I hope it's a slam dunk.
So much salt.
FormerShirts
Member
So how much do devs actually make?
Leafhopper
Banned
I don't think it will fail immediately but I don't think Nexon is a good look for it.
Syphon Filter
Member
Some of you guys are bugging out. Not that serious. Cliff is probably reading this thread laughing.
But why go straight to exploitative crap? This couldn't possibly be a more transparent cashgrab. Why make something like this unless you absolutely had to? Maybe I just don't understand the mindset of people as obsessed with profit as Blezinski. The interview for the GAF documentary was illuminating, and rather sad.
Huh?
Nexon are in the process of changing their look pretty dramatically, having signed this, Dirty Bomb, a new game from the developers of Sleeping Dogs, The Human Element from Robotoki, etc.
They're turning over a new leaf, and a very big one at that. Let's give them a chance.
Syphon Filter
Member
How do you know if it's a cash grab if you haven't seen how the game is?
randomengine
Banned
#UnlockTheFun?
30 FPS confirmed.
Pay $20 dollars to unlock 60 FPS.
30 FPS confirmed.
Pay $20 dollars to unlock 60 FPS.
Leafhopper
Banned
Sure, I am not outright saying the game will fail, its just the management of NexonNA does with games sometimes is questionable but, sure lets hope this is different.
Dr. Black Jack
Member
I'm guessing that most of the paid unlocks will be cosmetic since he was all in on that strategy with Gears 3. Maybe some experience boosts or something else inconsequential.
Pretty stoked to see what this looks like. Cliff has yet to make a game that I don't like.
Pretty stoked to see what this looks like. Cliff has yet to make a game that I don't like.
Thanks
All Nexon hate aside I'm not hoping for this game to bomb. I just won't support it.
TOO BAD MOTHERFUCKER
We've seen nothing with regards the F2P model this game will use. I understand the guarded skepticism, but I think you're jumping the gun here.
dragonelite
Member
As long as the mini transactions are like skins im oke.
DodgyGeezerFella
Member
I will give it a try, need more arena shooters, but F2P and Nexon ...
Do Nexon use any wanky ass launchers for their games ?
Do Nexon use any wanky ass launchers for their games ?
Forsaken82
Member
Spoken like someone who thinks the only type of "Arena" Shooter is a clone of Modern Warfare.
Doug Heffernan
Member
Free to play?
Leafhopper
Banned
Syphon Filter
Member
what's wrong with cliffy?
That's exactly what I want to hear, but I'm much more interested in seeing on how he follows through.
Fingers crossed.
Still trying to get my head around all the posts about it being F2P and calling it a 'bandwagon'. Yep, Arena Shooters are dime a dozen nowadays. F2P is a business model, so get over it.
Maybe i should post 'What, another 60$ game?' in the traditionally-priced newly announced games.
Maybe i should post 'What, another 60$ game?' in the traditionally-priced newly announced games.
Raven77
Member
Well if the industry is truly moving to a F2P structure, and that structure remains one that is largely based around getting as much money from the player as possible while releasing games with missing features and content on purpose...
Count me out.
The difference is that you know that you're getting a complete game (most of the time) for $60. The developer cannot do anything after you've paid your $60 in most cases to try and get more cash out of you to complete your experience. Sure, some games do day-of-release DLC but usually it is inconsequential things.
Count me out.
The difference is that you know that you're getting a complete game (most of the time) for $60. The developer cannot do anything after you've paid your $60 in most cases to try and get more cash out of you to complete your experience. Sure, some games do day-of-release DLC but usually it is inconsequential things.
Syphon Filter
Member
Not necessarily true. Games like Dota 2 get it right.
Yeah, let's not give anyone a chance to do a better job or anything. Let's just take a big dump on something we know nothing about to show everyone how cynical and cool we are.
You did it. You are the best gamer.
CamHostage
Member
Right? I just don't understand why things have changed in gaming since 1987. Reagan should do something about this!
...Or, not right. Your hard work in a video game is worth about as much as your hard work on a toilet. (Possibly less so, depending on how much waste management gets out of recycling contracts versus how much WoW gold farming yields.) Game makers like that you play their games, but unless they've got the free time and passion to do it for nothing, money has got to come back to them somehow. We can argue over whether they're being greedy over TOO much money, but the insistence that hats and trinkets and secret missions used to sometimes be unlockable and now sometimes are instead sold (which, BTW, are you really feeling a lack of included content in your current games?) has no bearing in the current game market. Gaming has changed and evolved for better or worse in a myriad of ways since it started, and what matters now is the reality of the moment.
Where are all these arena shooters that have come out that I'm somehow missing.
Raven77
Member
True enough, but 10% of all F2P games getting it right does not make it an industry model to get excited about, nor an industry model I want to support.
Raven77
Member
Notice I said "if it remains one largely based around getting as much money from players"
I didn't say "all F2P is bad and can NEVER be a good model."