perfectchaos007
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That's discouraging. No real prospects for the future of USMNT? I guess our decent into mediocrity is imminent.
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CONCACAF Gold Cup | 7-26 July 2015 | The Ecstasy of Gold
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That's discouraging. No real prospects for the future of USMNT? I guess our decent into mediocrity is imminent.
Alebrije
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Women's USA team did not go to Panamericanos becuase they choose the world cup that they ended wining
Men's team is another story....
Alex_Mexico
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We thought we could handle Copa America and Copa Oro with two different teams and got our asses handed to us getting out in the group stage of the first one because we had the genius idea of taking our B Team to the tougher more competitive South American tournament.
The Pan American team is an U22 team. Most wouldn't even be considered in the flagship team so that's an entirely different matter.
Well said.
Regulus Tera
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The pan american men football games are played by u22 squads that will participate in Olympic qualification. No reason the US couldn't have sent some.
Though I'm not sure that's their fault. Mexico participated because we won the 2011 games, and Canada is host country.
perfectchaos007
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That, plus Donovan snub, plus 4th place in gold cup, plus not being American....lots going against Klinsmann in the public eye right now.
American Eskimo
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That's what I'm saying. Mexico has a very solid youth team. World champions and now maybe panamerican champions. They're in line to replace the current failed senior team.
How's the under 23 usa team doing? They're next in line, where are the trophies?
Regulus Tera
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They got third place in the Toulon tournament in May. Mexico got fifth in an upset by Morocco.
The US U23 squad isn't the best but I am not really worried about the US youth system. The U23 squad should be supplemented by the U20 team which has more talented prospects and we'll see how they do in Olympics qualification. The biggest reason why I am not down on US youth talent is because of the rise of MLS academies and USL 2 teams. The current U20 was the first time in a long time where the majority of guys already had professional contracts.
perfectchaos007
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Coach Bradley should have been kept.
Let's not go that far.
Mexico hasn't had the best summer:
The generation that were runners-up in the past u-17 world cup ended up going out in group stage in this year's u-20 world cup.
Out in group stage in the Copa America
Final (so far) in the Pan American Games
Final (so far) in the Gold cup
2015 u-17 world cup yet to be played
The generation that were runners-up in the past u-17 world cup ended up going out in group stage in this year's u-20 world cup.
Out in group stage in the Copa America
Final (so far) in the Pan American Games
Final (so far) in the Gold cup
2015 u-17 world cup yet to be played
Armchair Analyst: Gold Cup epitaph for the USMNT and a reason to worry going forward
Even more damning as the previous version:
Armchair Analyst: Jurgen Klinsmann & USMNT flame out vs. Jamaica in Gold Cup loss
Even more damning as the previous version:
Armchair Analyst: Jurgen Klinsmann & USMNT flame out vs. Jamaica in Gold Cup loss
The Chosen One
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I didn't watch the USA v. Panama game, I just read the recap via GAF. Did we really get outshot 25 to 5???? By Panama???
This Gold Cup without a doubt was an undeniable disaster. We were outshot 4 out of 6 games and we only played one real good game and we still lost that game. Everyone is to blame from players to coach. This tournament was a huge step backward.
This Gold Cup without a doubt was an undeniable disaster. We were outshot 4 out of 6 games and we only played one real good game and we still lost that game. Everyone is to blame from players to coach. This tournament was a huge step backward.
Sr Kitsune
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To be honest Mexico will soon have problems because of so many foreign players in our league. As soon as a foreign player gets its naturalized letter which makes them mexican, the team is at the same time getting a new foreign player in the team.
149 players not born in Mexico.
Hell, Tijuana's team "Xolos" have like 12 players not born in Mexico.
It will become a problem for Mexico national team in the short-medium term.
The Chosen One
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Double Damn
This really is a systemic problem with the USMNT under Klinsmann. It can't be brushed off as some random fluke, especially when we're still seeing the same thing in the Gold Cup against lesser opponents.
American Eskimo
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But you can't draw any conclusions after one game!
I hope Jamaica win seeing as they played in the qualifying rounds (Caribbean Cup). Canada, Mexico, USA have such an advantage. Sorry, MexicanGaf. 
Before the Gold Cup competition began, I didn't think they had a chance of winning. Now there's a slim chance.
I'm wondering how much of an affect, Mexico's extra hour of match-time will have (two x extra-times in previous rounds) on their stamina.
Before the Gold Cup competition began, I didn't think they had a chance of winning. Now there's a slim chance.
I'm wondering how much of an affect, Mexico's extra hour of match-time will have (two x extra-times in previous rounds) on their stamina.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Time for Tecatito to shine
smokeandmirrors
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Going tonight to see Jamaica win. Don't let me down even further.
Mexico have already lost one final today: http://panam.cbc.ca/soccer/event/men/match=fbm400101/index.html
it's funny how sports analysts here in Mexico praise the US national team and their project all the time and keep shitting on the mexican league and the heads at the mexican federation.
The US seem like are going through a dry spell in terms of talent after what was probably their best run, with the retirement of Donovan, Mexico seems to have a "surplus" of talent, at least it looks like that but sadly our manager is an idiot who lucked out and won a title with a big club and as flavor of the moment was then called in to save the NT from the world class team of New Zealand, anyone could've won those games but somehow Herrera was a hero for doing it.
Seems clear to me that mexican players have a problem with managers staying too long at the helm, gold cup tends to highlight this and end many managers career at the NT when the underperform against what everyone in Mexico considers weak teams.
I think the US is on the right track, and Mexico always masks their leaders mistakes cause they usually have a decent if mediocre WC and then the cycle resets and we're back to where we were 4 years ago.
Every cycle is exactly the same.
The US seem like are going through a dry spell in terms of talent after what was probably their best run, with the retirement of Donovan, Mexico seems to have a "surplus" of talent, at least it looks like that but sadly our manager is an idiot who lucked out and won a title with a big club and as flavor of the moment was then called in to save the NT from the world class team of New Zealand, anyone could've won those games but somehow Herrera was a hero for doing it.
Seems clear to me that mexican players have a problem with managers staying too long at the helm, gold cup tends to highlight this and end many managers career at the NT when the underperform against what everyone in Mexico considers weak teams.
I think the US is on the right track, and Mexico always masks their leaders mistakes cause they usually have a decent if mediocre WC and then the cycle resets and we're back to where we were 4 years ago.
Every cycle is exactly the same.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Silver is better than nada.
CMojicaAce
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Please be a good match. Please be a good match. Please be a good match.
ayyy
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
At least we haven't been eliminated from the Olympics, Salsa.
P.s. Piojo playing Dueñas and not Gallito? AYYYY PIOJO
P.s. Piojo playing Dueñas and not Gallito? AYYYY PIOJO
smokeandmirrors
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Here at the stadium. Still salty as fuck that we're not in it
Fucking go Jamaica
Fucking go Jamaica
American Eskimo
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I'm not seeing it on my television?
It starts in half an hour.
American Eskimo
Banned
I see it now
dr3upmushroom
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Either way, I'll be happy with the outcome as long as there's no CONCACAFing.
Of course someone is going to get CONCACAF'ed. It's just a matter of how and when.
Piojo's problem is simple: He has not gone Super Saiyan yet.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Try univision's website.
CMojicaAce
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Game time. Let's go Mexicooo!
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