HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I mean I guess its ok IF someone has GamePass already but it sure isn't a service seller
Seems pretty pointless to me honestly
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Curated Demos of Upcoming Games Are Coming to Game Pass
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Seems pretty pointless to me honestly
akaFullmetal
Member
I just wish demos were free like before...but I'm just old fashion that way. Nice extra for us that pay for subscriptions I suppose.
Shmunter
Member
It’s a barebones reaction to take the Sony offer down a peg. This is just demos like we’ve seen forever but broadcast through a megaphone for PR.
Such a thing being part of Gamepass is a joke, truly.
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Lognor
Banned
Yep. They aped sony's idea but then improved upon it. Don't hate the game?
Shmunter
Member
Improved how? Some things will have a demo Vs Every AAA will be playable for minimum 2h?
Elaborate.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I thought you weren’t keen on unconfirmed information and rumors?
Sony Requiring Some Game Devs To Provide Free Trials To PS Plus Subscribers
When Sony combines PlayStation Plus and PlayStation Now in June, its new most expensive tier will be $18 a month and include time-limited game trials. But most games don’t currently have such demos. To fix that moving forward, Game Developer now reports Sony will require all developers of games...www.yahoo.com
Oh I see, I see.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I thought you weren’t keen on unconfirmed information and rumors?
Oh I see, I see.
Well shit I would love to post a source if Sony was transparent about it.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
So, no source.Well shit I would love to post a source if Sony was transparent about it.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Nope, just what we know corroborated by the insiders and developer comments.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
So, we actually know nothing official.
Batiman
Banned
It’s not confusing. People just play dumb
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
No, supposedly for games in development that haven't released yet. Primarily for indie devs to put demos out to gauge interest and get compensated for it.
bushwookie
Banned
Lognor
Banned
Devs get paid and it's optional for devs. Forcing devs and not paying them is subjectively worse.
Shmunter
Member
2 + 2 = 5
Although I do like that you at least admitted it’s subjective. 1 step forward.
For a consumer facing side, all AAA being playable is Objectively superior to select demos.
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Did you not see my post earlier? BLOCKBUSTER titles are all that are PROMISED BY SONY to have trials, don't think because some random source came up with something Sony is going to overdo a promise. Once they state something they'll stick to it.
Shmunter
Member
If their promised anything over $35 is mandated to have a 2h+ trial does not materialise then it’s all a moot point and a failure. No disagreement there.
Are we concerned they will be backtracking?
Love how the narrative changed yet again once it is now confirmed to be paying subscribers only. Now it's 'it's not forced on devs'. Come the hell on. Even trying to draw some distinction between 'trials' and 'demos' when having absolutely no idea what this is even going to be.
What happened to all the bullshit about having to pay for demos and how this is just regular demos where you don't need a subscription?
What happened to all the bullshit about having to pay for demos and how this is just regular demos where you don't need a subscription?
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Swift_Star
Banned
This is so ironic coming from people who don’t want to pay for games anymore. Amazing.
Lognor
Banned
Can't we think it's lame, but also a better approach from ms to make it optional AND to pay devs? Makes sense to me...
Lognor
Banned
You're not proving any point. You just sound clueless. What does one have to do with the other? Maybe one you start trying to explain it you'll get how what you're saying makes no sense...
People who think they're promising EVERY GAME OVER $35 when they've now STATED in their explanation of the perk as the games being described as "BLOCKBUSTERS" are going to be very let down, when only AAA and other titles like that will get this 2 hour trial.
If Sony had EVERY GAME over $35 they would have promoted the shit out of that point. Either that article was outdated, or draft data that didn't make it to the final cut, or the idea didn't fly with developers.
You know Sony isn't humble with ANYTHING. Saying "ALL GAMES OVER $35" would be their bullet point to SELL PEOPLE on premium subs rather than a vague "BLOCKBUSTER" wording.
There's no concern at all, there's just people that aren't using reason.
Why would Sony downplay such an AMAZING feature while trying to sell subs?
The trials will probably be similar to the games getting these Xbox "demos".
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Not when you have absolutely no information about either and are only actively trying to make one seem OK or better by constantly changing the narrative as information comes to light. It's pretty obvious.
Shmunter
Member
I don’t get it. What is a Blockbuster if not a AAA game?
Sony is international, they won’t quote USA prices for a global audience, that would be confusing, surely you’ll agree.
The $35 from US specific info has not been overturned by this, if anything bolstered by making it public.
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There is no region where a BLOCKBUSTER GAME costs close to only $35 USD.
It is more likely that the $35 line came from a draft that leaked, rather than something that was final.
Oh boy, get ready to be let down.
It's best to drop this expectation now, than carry it forward.
They will drop this perk, as I've shown with historical data that this perk was created at the launch of Plus back less than 10 years ago, it was quietly dropped back then too.
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Shmunter
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I’m only going on what’s been made known. If it turns out to be fart in the wind I’ll be the first to sniff it.
At present they clearly state “time trials for blockbuster titles”. It’s it’s own thing listed separately front and centre. Doesn’t say some titles, or select titles. Just Blockbuster titles, and I think in the gaming space we can all related Blockbuster to a certain tier of product, aka AAA.
That all there is to it.
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Yup, good that you've realized it, it's not EVERY GAME over $35, just whatever Sony has classified as a "BLOCKBUSTER".
Oh my god how could they, the highest tier!?If they're not forced upon developers and/or tied to the highest tier of a sub.
We're in agreement at least
The highest tier is still cheaper at yearly RRP than gamepass' RRP.
Let the sensationalist concern and excuses roll.
But how could this be when it is 'forced' on every poor dev out there?
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Shmunter
Member
Your essentially trying to define Blockbiuster = “select game trials” just doesn’t stand up by any measure.
The fact Sony is “mandating” things pretty much enforces it as a standard, not a curation. There are even precise timeframes for compliance. E.g Devs need nominate how long the game will be playable for within a max of 3 month window from publication.
All we know categorically at the moment is, if you’re publishing a AAA game on Sony, the platform will enforce a minimum 2h+ trial on the game for that ps+ tier.
We don’t know, and likely never will, is what the penalties are, or off how the revenue split works if any.
Nothing has come out officially or from the likes of Jason Shrieker or Geoff Grubb to state that has changed.
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Because these are the paid demos you were complaining about. Not games on gamepass.
Agent X
Member
If you're referring to the PS Plus Premium game trials, then my understanding is that the trial is actually the full game. The reason why they might not be paying developers to create demos is simply because they don't need to create separate demos.
Thinking about project moorcraft, as a consumer, would you be okay to share your gameplay history (I actually assume that they are do it to some extent) so that xbox and game devs could segment you for their demo testing. Aka FH6 beta test for the top 1% of racing game users but haven't played the last FH5?
This might already been done but not sure.
This might already been done but not sure.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
It's also never happening.
Shmunter
Member
Got something to offer?
pasterpl
Member
service already launched in Japan and Sony is not even offering trials of all of their new games
https://www.gematsu.com/2022/06/new-playstation-plus-japan-launch-games-lineup-announced
Shmunter
Member
There is a 3 month grace window for companies to nominate their playable timer I believe.
Edgelord79
Gold Member
Demos shouldn’t be behind a paywall. They should be free. Don’t like this.