Sushi_Combo
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Visions of Mana not coming to Game Pass, Xbox confirms
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Punished Miku
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News - Hype - Visions of Mana Releases on Summer 2024, New Footage Revealed Xbox Direct 2024
Visions of Mana is a game of many firsts. It’s the first entirely new mainline Mana game for more than 15 years. It’s the first game to offer such sprawling 3D worlds and freedom to explore them. And – perhaps most excitingly for the readers of this blog – it’s the first Mana game to release on...
Here's the thread from when it was shown at the direct.
Search thread for the word "gamepass."
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FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Says the guy making up lies to prove a point that doesn’t exist. It’s ok bro. Game Pass will get you soon enough.
Sushi_Combo
Member
There's nothing to make up, it's all out there.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Show me who you quoted then.
Sushi_Combo
Member
The typical gamepass user.
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
You yourself posted that you want to see less JRPG on xbox because of "anime artsyle" and I would argue majority Xbox players think like you and the fact is if someone in to JRPGs then chances are they chose Playstation/Switch and PC over Xbox.
Most Xbox players dont give JRPG a chance unless its on gamepass.
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FoxMcChief
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Ok, I don’t care for JRPG’s on game pass. But I’m also not wondering why a few games aren’t on Xbox. Where’s that Xbox player?
Fabieter
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Lifetime or launch?
Punished Miku
Gold Member
I'll help you. Literally 1 person on this entire website said they will wait for GP for this game. 1 person.
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Beechos
News - Visions of Mana not coming to Game Pass, Xbox confirms
Visions of Mana will not be coming to Game Pass, Xbox has confirmed to Eurogamer. Over the weekend, references to Square Enix's forthcoming action-RPG releasing on Game Pass on day one were spotted on the Xbox website. Xbox has now confirmed this was an error. "We're aware that Xbox.com...
Either?
Fabieter
Member
I'll help you. Literally 1 person on this entire website said they will wait for GP for this game. 1 person.
News - Visions of Mana not coming to Game Pass, Xbox confirms
Visions of Mana will not be coming to Game Pass, Xbox has confirmed to Eurogamer. Over the weekend, references to Square Enix's forthcoming action-RPG releasing on Game Pass on day one were spotted on the Xbox website. Xbox has now confirmed this was an error. "We're aware that Xbox.com...www.neogaf.com
Either?
Out of my ass launch worldwide 300k lifetime a million.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
That seems reasonable. I guess our discussion earlier about this doing 200k wouldn't be too far off. Honestly, I believe it would sell more than 200k if it was on GP, which is what I said originally. I don't know if it even broke 100k on PS in Japan on the last game. It's just a very small series. I'll buy it eventually for sure.
Spitfire098
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Confident it'll sell better than xbox. Not a hard bet to make given the sales disparity.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
No one has said otherwise. I’m just curious if you think this game will sell as big as you think.
IFireflyl
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News - Hype - Visions of Mana Releases on Summer 2024, New Footage Revealed Xbox Direct 2024
Visions of Mana is a game of many firsts. It’s the first entirely new mainline Mana game for more than 15 years. It’s the first game to offer such sprawling 3D worlds and freedom to explore them. And – perhaps most excitingly for the readers of this blog – it’s the first Mana game to release on...
Here's the thread from when it was shown at the direct.
Search thread for the word "gamepass."
0 entries.
News - Hype - Visions of Mana Releases on Summer 2024, New Footage Revealed Xbox Direct 2024
This fluffy dogo is simply the best.
Ah luh you.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Gold Member
Only in theory it is. If the costs for bringing the game to an additional platform aren't worth the revenue and profits you'd get from putting it on said platform, then it's likely not worth doing. Persona is only growing per entry because it started from a significantly smaller size than Final Fantasy did by the time both franchises attempted a multi-console or (consistent) multiplatform approach. Just look at how long it's taken Persona 5, and its various iterations, to sell a combined 5 million for example.
Also I don't think there's evidence showing FF is shrinking each entry; context has to be taken into account. FF XVI is probably somewhere between 4.5 million and 5 million copies sold right now, on a single platform with an install base that "just" reached 50 million little over a month ago. It's weird to say that Persona should never be close to Final Fantasy in sales; at one point Dragon Quest fans probably said the same about Final Fantasy until that no longer was the case. If it's a quality IP and given a chance to grow, it'll grow. But these IP don't have to grow in the same ways in order to grow whatsoever.
As for Monster Hunter, that's a completely different type of game, and a beast in its own right. A lot of its appeal is from having tapped into Pokemon-like curiosity in hunting for exotic animals, but of course Monster Hunter does it in a significantly different style.
No Japan-only numbers but from the Wiki on Trails of Mana:
It may not do FF, DQ or Persona 5 type of numbers (IIRC, Persona 5 took about six months to reach 1 million in sales), but it's still more than a lot of other smaller JRPGs.
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The Pleasure
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When gamepass fans wanted to get a free game, but were denied
Punished Miku
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Ive never heard you try and explain what is exciting about that game, just low key insult people to try and encourage them to get it. I made a thread on Triangle Strategy which sold low to modest numbers. I just focused on the things I liked about the game.
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
Easy, SRPG that takes influence from Battle Ogre 64 and with Vanillaware gorgeous artstyle, I have no reason not to be excited for this game.
I'm just saying I feel like there is more audience for this type of game on PC compare to Xbox.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Gold Member
He's on Twitter and his name is Jez Corden
Strategy games in general have more an audience on PC than Xbox, even MS know this. Look at the release histories of Halo Wars, Gears Tactics, Age of Empires 4 and now Ara 2. All of them initially PC exclusive, then getting a late Xbox port a year or so down the line.
Dick Jones
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When games are announced on Xbox, game companies need to blatantly state not on Gamepass in their press releases. The damage people are doing to games by knowingly making up lies that a game will be on Gamepass that when it's later confirmed not to be the case, we get the "shame, I'll wait now for Gamepass or a sale." Some of these people would have bought it day 1 were it not for dickheads muddying the water.
Killjoy-NL
Member
Going by that one thread a few days ago, people are actively seeking cheap ways to pay as little as possible for GP.They can't make up their mind.
No one will buy the game because it's not on GamePass and that's all they play. But no one subs to GamePass because it's not worth it.
So even the GP core installbase doesn't think it's really worth it.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
But in this case it wasn't just us speculating. The Xbox page title for the game literally said "coming soon to Game Pass".
Not all games need a "not on game pass" advertising tag. Xbox just needs to stop fucking things up.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
"Facts"
No one "made up lies", the 'coming to game pass' was on the page's meta-text and description when you search for the game on the web.
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Dick Jones
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So Xbox itself were trying to lie for clout or bully a company into signing an agreement. Thanks for clarifying. I hope SE are compensated for this."Facts"
No one "made up lies", the 'coming to game pass' was on the page's meta-text and description when you search for the game on the web.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
Keep talking like that and they'll say you're on GP next. See how you like that bucko.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
More than likely, I believe this 'will' come to game pass, they just weren't ready to officially announce it yet. Whether to not effect pre-orders or whatever reason. Someone slipped up on the meta-text early.
Also, "bully a company" .. c'mon.
They gave the game a huge segment on the Direct, which is the most marketing the game has had since announcement.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
THIS!!!!! Please man. Just BUY GAMES!
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Nah, I’m good with game pass and GameFly.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Ya boy gonna re-up gamefly for 3 months in March/April to catch up to all the Q1 '24 games.
BouncyFrag
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They’ll be better off playing Persona 3R which is on gamepass.
Variahunter
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Hm are you saying that the Xbox developer direct has more audience than The Game Awards ..?More than likely, I believe this 'will' come to game pass, they just weren't ready to officially announce it yet. Whether to not effect pre-orders or whatever reason. Someone slipped up on the meta-text early.
Also, "bully a company" .. c'mon.
They gave the game a huge segment on the Direct, which is the most marketing the game has had since announcement.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Since announcement.
ZoukGalaxy
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Dick Jones
Gold Member
Unlike some of the posters here, I'm not bought by MS.
I'm surre SE are happy MS are conditioning its customers to view a SE game as not of value on Day 1 and to "wait for Gamepass". Great opening move in this partnership by Xbox.More than likely, I believe this 'will' come to game pass, they just weren't ready to officially announce it yet. Whether to not effect pre-orders or whatever reason. Someone slipped up on the meta-text early.
Also, "bully a company" .. c'mon.
They gave the game a huge segment on the Direct, which is the most marketing the game has had since announcement.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
Doesn't matter. That's why it's a threat to say you're coming to GP next. Your reputation would be completely ruined. Everyone would be conditioned to think you were coming to GP and your day 1 value would be next to nothing.
Dick Jones
Gold Member
The difference is I'm not trying to prostitute myself to turn a profit, while having a company publicly trying to devalue my worth. Excusing the dumbass mistakes by SE, their aim is to turn a profit. MS should be giving SE compensation for lost Day 1 sales due to "I thought this was on Gamepass, I'll wait for Gamepass" customers.
Variahunter
Member
It litterally had only one show since announcement, which is the developper direct, so basically anything would have done it the way you phrased it...
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Between "bullying" and "conditioning" you're taking this for some kind of psychological warfare that doesn't exist here. It was either an earnest mistake or someone put up the meta-text earlier than it was supposed to.
Yes, it only has had one other showing since then, and they a big dedicated chunk in a first party presentation.
Kssio_Aug
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Dick Jones
Gold Member
Considering you put a triggered emoji on what you quoted, you don't have to now announce you arrival like you are in JFK Airport. Thanks... and I'm sorry you got butthurt over a post. Thoughts and Prayers!
