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Dead Space Creator Glen Schofield is leaving Striking Distance studio after first game Callisto Protocol flops.
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SEGAvangelist
Gold Member
You can just feel the glee in that tweet.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Most respectable journalists use words like "underperforms" or "did not meet expectations," this ripe cunt, however...
ChuckeRearmed
Member
So Callisto flopped?
Damn, this week is full of news.
Damn, this week is full of news.
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SEGAvangelist
Gold Member
Peak journalism from the PSF.
Sleepwalker
Member
Badly yes, very expensive mess but the game is decent fun.
skit_data
Member
Sad to see, I really thought Callisto Protocol would be the better game compared to the Dead Space remake.
I haven't bought or played Callisto Protocol yet (will probably pick it up at some point though) but the Dead Space remake was simply stellar IMO and Callisto Protocol wasn't as well recieved.
I haven't bought or played Callisto Protocol yet (will probably pick it up at some point though) but the Dead Space remake was simply stellar IMO and Callisto Protocol wasn't as well recieved.
Kakax11
Banned
SEGAvangelist
Gold Member
I haven't played either, but the most hardcore Dead Space fan I know praised The Callisto Protocol over the Dead Space remake endlessly, and I trust him.
Hudo
Member
Schreier isn't a journalist. He's just a narcissist who gets incredibly salty if someone else gets a "scoop" (like the shit that happened at Blizzard) or outright attacks people who call him out on his bullshit and double-standards.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
That topic title is a mouthful.
digoutyoursoul
Member
A shame as the atmosphere/visuals were great, it just lacked decent pacing and combat imo particularly with guns. It felt monotonous rather than a tense, gripping experience the longer it went on.
I hope the studio learns from this and keeps the presentation side of things as decent as Callisto.
I hope the studio learns from this and keeps the presentation side of things as decent as Callisto.
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
Sucks! I actually like the game.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Both this game and the Immortals game were doomed from the beginning due to the creator's ridiculous design mandates. No one wanted to play a magic shooter and no one wants to play a melee game with poor melee combat with one weapon.
their studios do have a lot of talent so maybe this might be good in the long run.
their studios do have a lot of talent so maybe this might be good in the long run.
Hugare
Member
Oh man ...
Glen is one of the good ones. Was a huge part of what made Dead Space great and Callisto was his creation from top to bottom.
It was a flawed game, but I loved it. The talent on display in was palpable.
Building a studio + a game of that scope all during COVID must have been hell
Hopefuly we will see more from him
Glen is one of the good ones. Was a huge part of what made Dead Space great and Callisto was his creation from top to bottom.
It was a flawed game, but I loved it. The talent on display in was palpable.
Building a studio + a game of that scope all during COVID must have been hell
Hopefuly we will see more from him
skit_data
Member
I'll definitely buy it at some point, I've already seen tempting sales and probably would have picked it up already if this year wasn't so stacked with great releases.
bender
What time is it?
Flopped might be appropriate depending on the gap between the expectations and results. You could probably add adjectives to "underperform" or "did not meet expectations" to be more tactful.
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SEGAvangelist
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I'm just a bitch when it comes to horror games. I'm 43 and getting better with it, though!
Thick Thighs Save Lives
Gold Member
Damn, bought Callisto Protocol day one to support Glenn's vision for a new horror IP as he did such an amazing job with the first Dead Space. Guess it wasn't meant to be...
One thing is for sure though, the graphical fidelity is the best I've ever seen in a horror game so far.
One thing is for sure though, the graphical fidelity is the best I've ever seen in a horror game so far.
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Hudo
Member
I think if he had the opportunity to iterate, the third game would've been one of the best survival horror games ever made. There was huge potential in Callisto Protocol.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
I kept on saying "some" people wanted the game to flop due to one of his tweets about developer crunch.
The whole tone towards the game changed literally the day after that tweet.
And they was quick to announce its failure just 3 weeks after release because it sold 2mill instead of 5 mill
No other reports have been shared since
As I said, it sold 2mill from 2nd Dec to Jan
And that's the only numbers we got, it's definitely sold a lot more than that since then
But they was expecting 5mill at launch which I think is absurd for a new IP.
financially you could say it was a failure from that perspective especially if they wanted to make that money back(day 1) but I wouldn't say it was a flop.
But it did fail to meet the publishers expectations.
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Well you’ll probably be fine here as by most accounts the game is a total flop in terms of fear factor.
A real failure as a horror game. The disappointment surrounding this game is vast, like an ocean.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Honestly, the melee combat was probably the best part of the game, it did not have anywhere close to the kind of refined gunplay Dead Space has.
Arachnid
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skit_data
Member
I'm the same to some extent for sure.
Get this:
My absolute favourite film is the first Alien movie. I've bought Alien Isolation 2 times, both physical and digital with all the DLCs and I love everything about it because its such a fine fucking piece of craftsmanship from Creative Assembly. But the unpredictable AI of the xenomorph simply makes it too fucking scary to sit through, I can't take more than half an hour before I feel its getting exhausting. By pure coincidence I've actually eyed it a bit again in the last two weeks thinking about giving it a real shot again.
Dead Space is a different beast though, I think I might have fucked up my first experience with it back on PS3 because I didn't understand how to reload the plasma cutter so I was melee fighting the necromorphs for a good first hour of the game and after that the game really never felt very scary again once I realized how to reload xD
Salty Popsicle
Banned
Sad to see, but when you promise investors a game that will sell millions of copies by revisiting the concepts of a previous hit franchise (Dead Space), and the sales don't materialize, you cannot be surprised when those investors want you out.
wipeout364
Member
I really liked The Callisto Protocol,but expecting 5 million in sales at launch for a new IP that is a Horror game is pretty crazy though.
Zuzu
Member
Ok, looks like it needed a fairly large design change (I haven’t played the game so I don’t know much about it - I probably shouldn’t even be commenting on it lol).
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ChuckeRearmed
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Killer8
Member
The game was frankly terrible. Amazing production values, but the unforgiving and jank combat which falls apart when you're fighting more than a couple of enemies, and is compounded by some of the most shittily placed checkpoints of all time, just tanked the experience. Even turning on the auto-dodge could not salvage this game. I'm not surprised it flopped (let's not be kind here) after the bad reviews and negative user impressions dropped. They also fucked up the PC port massively with stutter struggle.
wipeout364
Member
Alien Isolation is amazing, if you get scared just keep playing you will get to a point where you have died so many times it will stop being scary and then you can just soak in that absolutely amazing Alien fan service. For an Alien fan this game is one of the greatest pieces of media we have received since Aliens.
Alien/Aliens are two of my favorite movies of all time.
skit_data
Member
Yeah, I assume I just gotta approach it more like when approaching one of From Softwares games or something. I've played up to the part when you have to sneak past all those Working Joes but it took me a while because I just walk around admiring all work CA did with, well, everything.
I played AvP99 and AvP2 a lot as a kid and while being solid games they really don't bring the same terror/fascination Isolation does which is something that really hooked me seeing Alien and Aliens as a kid.
Wierd thing is that I actually read Alan Dean Fosters Alien novel based on the script for the film as a 10 year old before even seeing the film. It's a really scary novel because Gigers design hadn't been fully finalized so all the descriptions of the facehugger, xeno, etc. are sort of vague which somehow really captures the horror in a brilliant and clever way.
bender
What time is it?
I haven't had a chance to play it yet but from what I've seen, it feels like it is caught between wanting to be its' own thing (more melee focused) and be a lot like Dead Space (dismemberment, stasis power, seamless HUD, etc.). I really want to try it at some point but didn't get it at launch because of the melee focus.
The nail the atmosphere but I kind of thinking the pacing is off, it overstays its' welcome, and the Alien AI can be frustrating at times.
fart town usa
Gold Member
That's a bummer. The guy has great ideas but his stuff doesn't have enough meat. It's just monster closets and the main reason I have yet to play Calisto Protocol.
I hope he lands on his feet or can retire or something.
I hope he lands on his feet or can retire or something.
Badlucktroll
Member
I think it would have done better if they made it a cover shooter or something not that weird impossible baton swinging. what were they thinking?!
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
I enjoyed the game. It wasn't Dead Space, but I enjoyed the game much more when I stopped trying to do melee combat and just focused on using the guns. Shame it flopped.
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Puscifer
Member
I'm still shocked it had the budget of TLOU PT 2
When you look at the history and making of Dead Space I started understanding why we have people reign in things. Because when you just let creators have full control more often than not it's a hot mess and you see it in other forms of entertainment as well, rarely can you get a director that can keep their shit in check.
RickMasters
Member
Damn…… that bad huh?
Astral Dog
Member
Yeah ,2 million full price for a new ip in a month sounds actually pretty good, and should be 3 million + by now
So idk what happened tbh,overbudget? Did they waste money on marketing?maybe because it was a brand new studio? Its pretty strange since CP doesn't look like a AAAA gaming production, visual quality aside
Edit: though the Metacritic appears to be below 'Average' for a game of this type,without prestige that will lower its potential for a singleplayer horror franquise
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Chuck Berry
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If you get far enough you'll realize the Xenomorph really isnt scary at all.
It's the Working Joes that'll really make you shit yourself.
semiconscious
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yeah, one could say that callisto protocol was this gen's the order:1886...
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GooseMan69
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Jason is such a twat.