AnotherOne
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Tower of power strikes again and all that..
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DF: Control PS5 Vs Xbox Series X Raytracing Benchmark
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Tower of power strikes again and all that..
S0ULZB0URNE
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XSX takes this one...
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Shodan09
Unconfirmed Member
Clear advantage for series X again. Oh crikey. Another 2k comment thread incoming.
Legenscary
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TheDude108
Member
Series X wins...in photo mode? Is this what has become of us?
kyliethicc
Member
Xbox is best way to ... watch a Photo Mode ?
Soulblighter31
Banned
Pretending to miss the point
)) The thing i find fascinating is ... playstation was always weaker than all its competition, historically. ps1 weaker than n64. ps2 was used as a mop by xbox and gamecube. xbox 360 was doing circles around ps3. The only anomaly was with the ps4 vs xbox one. The way things are now is just the natural order of things. Why are sony fans having so much difficulty coming to terms with this, when this was the situation their entire history ?
nowhat
Member
If you want to enjoy games only in photo mode, XSX is where it's at!
VanEs
Member
Was just watching this video and seems like a clear cut Series X advantage over PS5 (in Photo Mode at least). Weird how that doesn't really translate to the performance video. With these margins you'd expect Series X to outclass PS5.
Maybe actual gameplay is different. Or maybe Series X does have an advantage after all. Interesting.
Maybe actual gameplay is different. Or maybe Series X does have an advantage after all. Interesting.
Mister Wolf
Member
The 2TF. The Xbox has VRR so they should give an unlocked framerate mode.
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nowhat
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Oh not only photo mode, they make a point of mentioning VRR too. Photo mode, in VRR :
Mr. PlayStation
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There are so many other caveats in photo modes, in photo modes many of the fancy effects are always on, compared to actual gameplay where particle draw calls and those engineering magic help with optimization. We need real gameplay comparison to judge which hardware is more efficient. But on mere photo mode, it's a win for Xbox.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
Photo mode ? LoL
its actually the best benchmark yet because the game and setting are exactly the same..... photo mode just unlocks the frame cap.
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I mean sure, the XSX has an 18% on paper GPU advantage and this photo mode benchmark is a pure GPU test, nothing else, so this result makes sense. During active gameplay though it's different because there is more going on and other factors that play a part. For example in the 60fps mode PS5 runs smoother because of some other, possibly I/O related, stuttering on Xbox.
Endless Fluff
Banned
The PS5 fanboys are already downplaying and DF hating as usual.
kyliethicc
Member
AMD RT is done via CUs.. and XSX has 52 vs PS5 has 36.. so this is expected. And fairly useless cause the game is 30 fps.
CurtBizzy
Member
I never used a photo mode to benchmark my new graphics cards
Bruno_Arrais85
Member
is this a joke? Photo mode?
Mr. PlayStation
Member
Again the 16 additional CU's with higher bandwidth on XSX, we don't know how much it translates to real world experience. Because there are no real world RT experience to compare besides Watch Dogs Legion which ran at 30fps across both consoles.
regawdless
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kyliethicc
Member
Kinda higher bandwidth. 336 is less than 448 so sometimes the PS5 has more.
Mr. PlayStation
Member
News Flash, "Xbox now has a share button and gamers around the world can now share their favorite moments from their games to social networking platforms" just read that in Phil's voice. So yeah Xbox community now has a share button to share screenshots, you could expect plenty of time being spent on photo mode.
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The rates are per-clock, though, so in the end the difference is the same as the TF figure.
Soulblighter31
Banned
Reeeera made a thread as well. Going as predictable as this one. Somehow worse there. The sony blood runs deep in both these forums. People gotta twist the facts so sony comes out at least on par. Even with the numbers smacking them in the face.
On photo mode you don’t need the CPU so much and probably the differences on most games means CPU PS5 is performing better
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Mr. PlayStation
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Hey riky, there really is no argument here. For those who prefer higher frame rates on photo mode using ray tracing could go with Xbox, clear deciding factor if that's what people want. For those who want stutter free 60fps(with minor dips) during actual real world gameplay along with haptic feedback and adaptive triggers for added immersion, well you all know which platform that is!
nowhat
Member
For rendering a static scene, sure. But when a game is actually running, you have to stream assets and juggle memory around - not going to go into SSD speeds debate here, but you really can't read too much into it. If at all. Calling this a benchmark is just for clicks (and I'm willing to bet it worked).
Thirty7ven
Banned
This is actually kinda interesting.
16% lead on average in a purely GPU related task. If you woulda told us this 6 months ago, there would be nothing but revolt.
I’m not surprised that Richard goes on a tangent about silicon investment return and “early days” and “parity”. He clearly wanted more ahahahaha so pathetic. And people say he’s neutral!
Complete disregard for draw calls doesn’t surprise me either!
16% lead on average in a purely GPU related task. If you woulda told us this 6 months ago, there would be nothing but revolt.
I’m not surprised that Richard goes on a tangent about silicon investment return and “early days” and “parity”. He clearly wanted more ahahahaha so pathetic. And people say he’s neutral!
Complete disregard for draw calls doesn’t surprise me either!
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Mr Moose
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I, too, play my games in photomode.
Topher
Gold Member
Exactly. We already knew the power delta on paper. This photo mode benchmark confirms that. Great. As they clearly mentioned in the video, unlocking the frame rate would cause drastic shifts and not be pleasant on either console. This is why when people are actually playing the game, on either version, they get 30fps.
That means the difference will go much lower than 16% as well.
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darkleemar
Neo Member
I find it interesting that in an actual tough scene to render (the corridor of doom) the performance is pretty much exactly the same. I wish we could see this test with actual gameplay. I feel like they would be closer than photo mode leads us to believe. Cool to see what that xbox silicone is capable of though. Definitely an impressive chip.
kyliethicc
Member
I'm just saying if the AMD RX 6800 (with 60 CUs) got benchmarked against the upcoming RX 6700 XT (with 40 CUs), the 6800 is gonna win in RT benchmarks with all other settings equal. Same with comparing Nvidia cards. More RT cores = more FPS in RT.
So the XSX can average like 5 FPS higher Control RT in PHOTO MODE lol ... but PS5 has what counts. The games. (And its $100 cheaper.)
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ethomaz
Banned
BTW that leave us with some questions.
In Phone Mode where the CPU is doing basically nothing the X GPU shows it power but when in gameplay where the CPU is doing physics and all the things related to gameplay PS5 match or pull ahead.
We are seeing that Series X being CPU bottlenecked? Makes sense if you look at most 120Hz comparisons where the CPU is used way more than on 60Hz and PS5 pull again ahead.
In Phone Mode where the CPU is doing basically nothing the X GPU shows it power but when in gameplay where the CPU is doing physics and all the things related to gameplay PS5 match or pull ahead.
We are seeing that Series X being CPU bottlenecked? Makes sense if you look at most 120Hz comparisons where the CPU is used way more than on 60Hz and PS5 pull again ahead.
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