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[Digital Foundry] Death Stranding Director's Cut: PC vs PS5 Graphics Breakdown
Bonfires Down
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I don't even know what bias DF is supposed to have anymore. Xbox, PC, now PS5? Y'all have fun though.
Arioco
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Krappadizzle
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I think Alex calls it like he see's it, sometimes that lands on the MSFT side and sometimes Sony's. He's also human so I don't think he intentionally misleads anyone, he just makes mistakes and maybe forgets to include things as I'd wager making videos of such length requiring a ton of metrics and information can make it easy to forget certain talking points. From my perspective, he tends to kind of land in the middle and just call a good looking spade a spade.
Some of you become so entrenched in the Silicon Wars you guys can't see the forest for the trees.
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DemonCleaner
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Also, interesting to see how Performance /TFLOPS ratios play out.
did i miss the point alex was trying to make with this?
why don't introduce Ampere to the mix?
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Zathalus
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Ampere results are difficult to ascertain as while the TFLOP figures shot up (due to the doubling of the ALU) that is still hamstrung by various other factors in the GPU that didn't get doubled.did i miss the point alex was trying to make with this?
why don't introduce Ampere to the mix?
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So while a 3090 is 38 TFLOP is performs roughly the same as a 26 TFLOP 6900xt.
The best thing to use for Ampere is to use 65% of the TFLOP figures to get equivalent Turing/RDNA 2 FLOPS.
DemonCleaner
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sure, everybody with the smallest amount of interest in GPUs knows this.
the best thing to do is not to compare flops between different architectures....
Midn1ght
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Thirty7ven
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MikeM
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I love his content but he missed big time with this. He doesn’t do console at all and you can tell. I’m sure if he did this with more recent games vs PC that he would have a different result. DMC is a terrible port to benchmark from.
PaintTinJr
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cold boot into a save file in this location, 10900k loads the game in 13.72 seconds
2700x COLD BOOTS into the very same location in 14 or so seconds (compared to the 10900k's 13.72 sec cold boot time)
soft boot takes 3-5 secs
this is a cpu that is literally %60-70 slower than 10th gen intel CPUs
people really go extremes to downplay PCs lmao
That info suggests that the loading is bottleneck by the RAM copying and RAM to VRAM copying on PC cold boot - whereas on subsequent loads it is already decompressed and held in an SSD's overprovisioning cache and DMAs either direct to the VRAM, or passes thru the RAM very quickly. unlike the PS5 that has unified RAM and avoids some of the copying on cold boot.
The difference in the CPUs is then reduced to their RAM interface.
winjer
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cold boot into a save file in this location, 10900k loads the game in 13.72 seconds
2700x COLD BOOTS into the very same location in 14 or so seconds (compared to the 10900k's 13.72 sec cold boot time)
soft boot takes 3-5 secs
this is a cpu that is literally %60-70 slower than 10th gen intel CPUs
people really go extremes to downplay PCs lmao
Death Stranding is DX12 game, so it's probable that it's compiling shaders when it's loading each level.
So the first time will take longer to load assets and compile shaders. The second time, shaders are already compiled, so it just has to load assets.
Lysandros
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He has yet to read to which PC GPU XSX is equivalent to, but he has all the right to work in mysterious ways of course.
So you are saying your computer sucks. Sorry to hear.
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Shmunter
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You don’t sound very sorry
I have a Ryzen 5800x + 3070, and I am THOROUGHLY impressed with my PS5. Not just the graphics, but the haptics and the 3D sound (I had the Aureal A3D card back in the day… I can’t believe it took TWENTY YEARS to regain true 3D sound in a non-VR game). I honestly thought the days of new console gens being impressive were long gone. I’m VERY happy to be proven wrong! Honestly, I don’t think I’ve been this impressed with a console since the Dreamcast.
Cope. Also, that sounds like one kick-ass wheelbarrow!
I’ve been using SSD for like a decade (and NVME for a year), and have a PS5. I agree.This right here clearly shows the limitation of Win32 API indicating why PC needs DirectStorage to take full advantage of the NVMe drives.
Tchu-Espresso
likes mayo on everthing and can't dance
This is on sale on the ps store atm.
Not sure if I have energy for another open world game right now but I’m interested.
Not sure if I have energy for another open world game right now but I’m interested.
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