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[Fenderputty]

The problem is that there are many who easily but into the fear from the right. And accordingly so, they will see any measure of activity to curb these groups as a threat to their freedom.

I really hope the DOJ treads this carefully.

My favorite is the family eating breakfast or something at the table when a nuke goes off because of the Iran deal.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/08/07/iran_nuclear_bomb_ad_explosive_strange.html

 

[4Tran]

Didn't the government acknowledge this all the way since the Oklahoma City bombing? Outside of a small period after 9/11, domestic terror groups have always posed more of a threat to Americans than any other group. The reason is obvious: ISIS and other international groups are based outside of the US and most of their efforts are directed towards other countries. American terror groups are only interested internally, so all of their efforts will be directed within the country.

That's kind of the problem with the second amendment, right? It's supposed to enable people to rise up if the government becomes tyrannic, but the question when a government becomes tyrannic is a bit open to interpretation. Some guy might already draw the line at border checkpoints.

Wasn't it designed so as to have an armed populace from which militias could be quickly formed so the US wouldn't have to maintain a large standing army?

I'm confused. Are domestic terror groups just gangs or is that what we are calling the Kotch brothers now?

They're mostly survivalist, anti-government, and sovereign citizen groups. Think McVey and the various militia groups that mostly formed during the '90s.

 

[Gallbaro]

Yea, fuckibg global warming nut groupsbout to destroy our economy.

 

[Nevasleep]

Depends on the intelligence the DOJ has, maybe other agencies more focused towards foreign threats(including homegrown) aren't so forthcoming with what's actually happening.

 

[FlyingSaucer]

In other news : anti-government groups are the #1 threat, government says.

I'm so glad they set their priorities right.

 

[Armaros]

In other news : anti-government groups are the #1 threat, government says.

I'm so glad they set their priorities right.

You mean the radical anti-government types that bombed buldings and kill law enforcement year over year?

I guess people like a Clive Bundy and Mcveigh are not work dealing with?

 

[Gordon Shumway]

My favorite is the family eating breakfast or something at the table when a nuke goes off because of the Iran deal.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/08/07/iran_nuclear_bomb_ad_explosive_strange.html

lol..wow.

 

[Veritigo_X]

In other news : anti-government groups are the #1 threat, government says.

I'm so glad they set their priorities right.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but this is something that needed to be done because of the threat of violence to citizens, not just the government itself. The OKC Bombing was planned as an attack on the US government but many civilians were killed as well.

Of the dead, 99 worked for the federal government. Eight of the victims were federal law enforcement agents: four members of the U.S. Secret Service, two members of the U.S. Customs Service, one member of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration, and one member of the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development. Six of the victims were U.S. military personnel; two members of the U.S. Army, two members of the U.S. Air Force, and two members of the U.S. Marine Corps. The rest of the victims were civilians, including 19 children, of whom 15 were in the America's Kids Day Care Center.

It's easy to see this as the government looking out for itself, but there are human lives at stake here.

 

[manzoman96]

I knew fans of that team were no good.

 

[ChouGoku]

My favorite is the family eating breakfast or something at the table when a nuke goes off because of the Iran deal.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/08/07/iran_nuclear_bomb_ad_explosive_strange.html

That was pretty funny, I like the upbeat tune until shit goes to hell

 

[markofhavoc]

UNCANCEL THAT GHOST RECON, DOMESTIC TERROR IS BACK!

 

[Htown]

In other news : anti-government groups are the #1 threat, government says.

I'm so glad they set their priorities right.

For real?

 

[Calderc]

I wonder how long before protests or movements similar to Occupy will be classed as domestic terrorism.

 

[JustenP88]

Yeah, crazy violent shitheads within our own country are more likely to hurt us than the ones across the ocean. But war on terror oh no the Muslims.

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

Super obvious, but that doens't stop television media from talking about ISIS every single day.

 

[Mr. X]

I'm hesitant to applaud this. Going to wait and see what they decide to do because this might just burn protests that happen after get caught killing or using excessive force.

 

[Hari Seldon]

Yeah you people applauding this have your priorities wrong. This is entirely a call for more gestapo surveillance shit like mandatory encryption backdoors and the shredding of privacy laws.

 

[RangerX]

I thought that would be pretty obvious seeing as they are domestic. Isis' reach only goes so far.

 

[Veritigo_X]

Yeah you people applauding this have your priorities wrong. This is entirely a call for more gestapo surveillance shit like mandatory encryption backdoors and the shredding of privacy laws.

If that's the case why not continue to use the ISIS/Al Qaeda excuse that's been working the past decade? If it ain't broke...

 

[Jmanunknown]

This threat is actually way worse then people want to think about and it all happened to explode when a certain man was elected president. In fact the number of militia groups since Obama took office rose 800% from 150 to nearly 1300. That is insane I wonder what it is about president obama that makes some people turn to extremism and guns?

 

[Gordon Shumway]

This threat is actually way worse then people want to think about and it all happened to explode when a certain man was elected president. In fact the number of militia groups since Obama took office rose 800% from 150 to nearly 1300. That is insane I wonder what it is about president obama that makes some people turn to extremism and guns?

His ears..pretty sure it's his ears.

 

[Rebel Leader]

His ears..pretty sure it's his ears.

nah.. it's the teeth

 

[Hey Dude]

Is there some doj budget vote coming up soon?

 

[Citadelofmythoughts]

 

[Mammoth Jones]

Yet the KKK still allowed to exist. If known ISIS members were parading around a mall calling for the eradication of infidels that wouldn't be tolerated.

If that's the case why not continue to use the ISIS/Al Qaeda excuse that's been working the past decade? If it ain't broke...

Can't justify too much domestic work if the problem is overseas.

If you see something....say something.

 

[NumberTwo]

Yet the KKK still allowed to exist. If known ISIS members were parading around a mall calling for the eradication of infidels that wouldn't be tolerated.

The typical counter argument is, "well, they're not really a threat anymore". So what? Does that change the fact that they lynched and terrorized black people in the 20th and 19th century?

Their legacy is what matters, their message is what matters. They're terrorists. There are people still alive that grew up during Jim Crow who can tell you first hand the disgusting acts they committed.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

Is there some doj budget vote coming up soon?

?

 

[Veritigo_X]

?

I think he's implying that they are only bringing this up to get their budget increased. A lot of cynics in this thread.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

I think he's implying that they are only bringing this up to get their budget increased. A lot of cynics in this thread.

Oh. OH. lol..

 

[Sub_Level]

I can believe this.

Almost amazed a bunch of people haven't tried to do a coup or start another civil war because there's been a black dude as president.

And you hear, he ain't American and is Muslim and he's trying to take our guns!

Makes me glad to be Canadian.

There are militias here and there but they would never be able to organize in any meaningful capacity.

As for another civil war, we're too lazy for that.

 

[borghe]

I would like to point to the recent Captain America comic....

bigotry, racism, etc sucks..... 100%. But when you start labeling your CITIZENS (they are still citizens going to work, paying taxes, etc) as terrorists (or in Captain America, an evil super group)....

I mean that's really IMHO possibly not the best way to go about it. "Your beliefs suck" is a far cry from "You are a danger to this country", especially when "this country" to them are other CITIZENS who believe as they do..

I mean this is ultimately a zero sum gain here. I don't see it ending well heading down this path (not that it's going particularly smashing already......)

 

[Citadelofmythoughts]

I would like to point to the recent Captain America comic....

bigotry, racism, etc sucks..... 100%. But when you start labeling your CITIZENS (they are still citizens going to work, paying taxes, etc) as terrorists (or in Captain America, an evil super group)....

I mean that's really IMHO possibly not the best way to go about it. "Your beliefs suck" is a far cry from "You are a danger to this country", especially when "this country" to them are other CITIZENS who believe as they do..

I mean this is ultimately a zero sum gain here. I don't see it ending well heading down this path (not that it's going particularly smashing already......)

When my fellow citizens are shooting and bombing in the name of their beliefs, they're still terrorists.

 

[Valhelm]

So, Cops right? Because I'd put all the shit cops under domestic terrorists.

That sentiment is edgy enough, but totally inaccurate. Terrorism is non-state action meant to provoke terror in people, when traditional means of warfare can't be used. There's not a single definition under which the American police could be considered "domestic terrorist", even though many officers do horrible things.

In other news : anti-government groups are the #1 threat, government says.

I'm so glad they set their priorities right.

Government collapse would be more devastating to the American people than pretty much any kind of external terrorist attack.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

I would like to point to the recent Captain America comic....

bigotry, racism, etc sucks..... 100%. But when you start labeling your CITIZENS (they are still citizens going to work, paying taxes, etc) as terrorists (or in Captain America, an evil super group)....

I mean that's really IMHO possibly not the best way to go about it. "Your beliefs suck" is a far cry from "You are a danger to this country", especially when "this country" to them are other CITIZENS who believe as they do..

I mean this is ultimately a zero sum gain here. I don't see it ending well heading down this path (not that it's going particularly smashing already......)

Since you brought up Cap, I'm going to assume sarcasm..unless you, like the people at FOX News and their followers, are actually saying they're portraying you. Please be kidding lol..Captain America..

 

[BobTheFork]

I remember that horse's ass Sara Palin refusing to call those that blew up health clinics terrorists, largely because of her long standing opposition of Planned Parenthood.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

I remember that horse's ass Sara Palin applauding those who wanted to blow up health clinics that performed abortions and refused to call them terrorists.

Wut? She's a fucking idiot..but seriously?

 

[BobTheFork]

Wut? She's a fucking idiot..but seriously?

I shouldn't have used 'applauding' but I had to go find the story. She was basically tossed the question about if the people blowing up clinics were terrorists and she 'didn't know' and wouldn't condemn them.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/24/640591/-Palin-I-Don-t-Know-If-Abortion-Clinic-Bombers-Are-Terrorists#

 

[Slayven]

I would like to point to the recent Captain America comic....

bigotry, racism, etc sucks..... 100%. But when you start labeling your CITIZENS (they are still citizens going to work, paying taxes, etc) as terrorists (or in Captain America, an evil super group)....

I mean that's really IMHO possibly not the best way to go about it. "Your beliefs suck" is a far cry from "You are a danger to this country", especially when "this country" to them are other CITIZENS who believe as they do..

I mean this is ultimately a zero sum gain here. I don't see it ending well heading down this path (not that it's going particularly smashing already......)

When you want to shoot and blot things up, you are terrorist.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

I shouldn't have used 'applauding' but I had to go find the story. She was basically tossed the question about if the people blowing up clinics were terrorists and she 'didn't know' and wouldn't condemn them.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/24/640591/-Palin-I-Don-t-Know-If-Abortion-Clinic-Bombers-Are-Terrorists#

I mean..fuck her all day with this shit. Thanks (I guess) for the link..geezuz..

 

[Veritigo_X]

I shouldn't have used 'applauding' but I had to go find the story. She was basically tossed the question about if the people blowing up clinics were terrorists and she 'didn't know' and wouldn't condemn them.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/24/640591/-Palin-I-Don-t-Know-If-Abortion-Clinic-Bombers-Are-Terrorists#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBv88ixx74k

"I don't know if you're going to use the word terrorist there but it's unacceptable and it would not be condoned, of course, on our watch."

A little different than what you suggested she said.

 

[BobTheFork]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBv88ixx74k

"I don't know if you're going to use the word terrorist there but it's unacceptable and it would not be condoned, of course, on our watch."

A little different than what you suggested she said.

..fair enough. It stuck out in my mind that she wouldn't call it terrorism when that's exactly what it is.

 

[Slayven]

I mean..fuck her all day with this shit. Thanks (I guess) for the link..geezuz..

Every time you think their family can't sink lower, they find a way to do it

 

[Tizoc]

But How Can They Be Terrorists If They're White?

Is that supposed to be Huey Freeman?

 

[Veritigo_X]

..fair enough. It stuck out in my mind that she wouldn't call it terrorism when that's exactly what it is.

Agreed. The way she answered that question was an attempt to appeal to both her base (who definitely wouldn't stand for it being called terrorism) and general election voters (who generally don't approve of these acts). Typical of Republicans running in the GE.

 

[Drifters]

Like 1941 Berlin all over again right?

 

[Mobile Suit Gooch]

I saw this on FB:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2575644/

 

[jurgen]

So other than the typical internet pile-on and fingerpointing at the amorphous blob we classify "right-wingers" and everyone we disagree with politically, what does everyone think about eco-terrorism?

The FBI classified it as the number one source of domestic terrorism until a few years ago.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

Every time you think their family can't sink lower, they find a way to do it

I didn't want to mention the rest of the morons, but you're not incorrect in the slightest..that family is a fucking shit bucket..

So other than the typical internet pile-on and fingerpointing at the amorphous blob we classify "right-wingers" and everyone we disagree with politically, what does everyone think about eco-terrorism?

The FBI classified it as the number one source of domestic terrorism until a few years ago.

They're..terrorist? What are you going on about, Frank? Who are you talking to?

 

[Gordon Shumway]

Trashman stuff..

So..you asked just to ask? What are you getting at? Hate this hit and run shit..

 

[Square2015]

How many "domestic terrorist" organizations have committed "terrorist attacks" since McVeigh?