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[Gordon Shumway]

How many "domestic terrorist" organizations have committed "terrorist attacks" since McVeigh?

Depends on what you consider an real "act of terror" or a real "terrorist" but, the CCC would count, IMO. A list resides here.

 

[Veritigo_X]

So other than the typical internet pile-on and fingerpointing at the amorphous blob we classify "right-wingers" and everyone we disagree with politically, what does everyone think about eco-terrorism?

The FBI classified it as the number one source of domestic terrorism until a few years ago.

Assistant Attorney General John Carlin, who oversees national security at the Justice Department, announced the new position -- the Domestic Terrorism Counsel -- following a number of violent attacks or plots against the U.S. that he said were motivated by "anti-government views, racism, bigotry and anarchy, and other despicable beliefs."

Kinda hard not to point the finger here. Plus, it's not quite amorphous if people are posting examples of actual right wing domestic terrorists.

Also, I'd say the pile-on is more GAF specific than Internet specific since other forums are responding to this news differently. For example, Free Republic is acting pretty defensive over this news.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

Kinda hard not to point the finger here. Plus, it's not quite amorphous if people are posting examples of actual right wing domestic terrorists.

Also, I'd say the pile-on is more GAF specific than Internet specific since other forums are responding to this news differently. For example, Free Republic is acting pretty defensive over this news.

I don't believe he's here to respond. Also, stop piling on him..

 

[Flying Toaster]

Pre 9/11 a lot if incidents were done by Americans. Don't tell people that as shit hits the fan.

 

[Chie Satonaka]

So other than the typical internet pile-on and fingerpointing at the amorphous blob we classify "right-wingers" and everyone we disagree with politically, what does everyone think about eco-terrorism?

The FBI classified it as the number one source of domestic terrorism until a few years ago.

Why don't you start a thread about if if that's what you'd actually like to talk about?

 

[Gordon Shumway]

Why don't you start a thread about if if that's what you'd actually like to talk about?

This is exactly the thread for it. It's just a shame that rather than have a conversation, he wants to play the "GAF" game nonsense. These NuJuniors are quite transparent..

 

[crimsonheadGCN]

This news popped up today:

Right-wing extremists are ‘prepping’ for revolution by infiltrating fire departments — and it may be working

The Oath Keepers is the group that is suggesting this.

 

[Slayven]

This news popped up today:

Right-wing extremists are ‘prepping’ for revolution by infiltrating fire departments — and it may be working

The Oath Keepers is the group that is suggesting this.

Oath Keepers always be on some fuck shit, and shocking a few of them are either active law enforcement or former cops and military.

 

[Veritigo_X]

This news popped up today:

Right-wing extremists are ‘prepping’ for revolution by infiltrating fire departments — and it may be working

The Oath Keepers is the group that is suggesting this.

“(Militia) has been turned into the M-word,” Rhodes complained. “It’s a dirty word now — just like the N-word.”

Of course they're the victims here.

 

[ItIsOkBro]

will.i.am tried to tell you guys like a decade ago but no.

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

So, Cops right? Because I'd put all the shit cops under domestic terrorists.

Was ab to say, I assume he's subtly referring to the Police.

 

[Jeremy]

Reminds me of that Grumpy Old Terrorists episode of Radiolab. The actual story is here and it's pretty crazy how far along they had gotten.

http://www.theatlantic.com/national...fbi-says-4-seniors-plotted-bio-attack/247738/

"There is no way for us, as militiamen, to save this country, to save Georgia, without doing something that's highly, highly illegal: murder," one of those charged, Frederick Thomas, 73, of Cleveland, Ga., was recorded telling the informant. "When it comes time to saving the Constitution, that means some people have got to die," he said.

Another of the men, Samuel J. Crump, 68, of Toccoa, Ga., is accused of saying he wanted to make 10 pounds of ricin and disperse it in Atlanta and other cities, as well as loosing it from a car traveling on Interstate highways. Ricin, made from the castor bean, is a potent toxin, though it is not generally believed to be effective for killing large numbers of people. The others arrested were Dan Roberts, 67, and Ray H. Adams, 65, both of Toccoa, the Justice Department said.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

This news popped up today:

Right-wing extremists are ‘prepping’ for revolution by infiltrating fire departments — and it may be working

The Oath Keepers is the group that is suggesting this.

Welp..I'm sure feeling safe all of the sudden!

 

[Htown]

How many "domestic terrorist" organizations have committed "terrorist attacks" since McVeigh?

Here

• 1995 April 24: Timber industry lobbyist Gilbert P. Murray, is killed in the third and final mailbomb attack by the Unabomber.
• 1996 July 27: Centennial Olympic Park bombing Army of God (United States) member Eric Robert Rudolph places a three pipe bombs in a backpack, which he leaves in busy Centennial Olympic Park. The bomb is discovered by security guard Richard Jewell who raises an alert. One person is killed and 111 others are wounded in the explosion. Rudolph escapes and becomes a fugitive for 10 years. Rudolph's bomb is intended to force the cancellation of the Atlanta Olympics due to his outrage over legal abortion.
• 1997 January 16: Army of God (United States) member Eric Robert Rudolph bombs a women's health clinic in Sandy Springs, Georgia. There are two bombs; the first meant to kill people inside the clinic, the second bomb placed in the parking lot and time-delayed to kill first-responders. No one was harmed by the first bomb, but six people were injured by the second.
• 1997 February 21: Army of God (United States) member Eric Robert Rudolph bombs the Otherside Lounge, a gay bar in Atlanta, Georgia. There are two bombs; the first left on the outdoor patio, the second bomb left in the parking lot, time-delayed to kill first-responders. The initial explosion injures five, the second bomb is discovered and disposed of by the police bomb squad. Rudolph's motive for this bombing was his outrage over the existence of homosexuality.
• 1998 January 29, Army of God (United States) member Eric Robert Rudolph bombs a women's clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, killing 1 and critically injuring another.
• 1999 August 10: Los Angeles Jewish Community Center shooting — white supremacist Buford O. Furrow, Jr., armed with an Uzi-type submachine gun, walked into the lobby of the North Valley Jewish Community Center in Granada Hills, California and began spraying bullets, wounding five. Furrow escapes and then kills a postal worker for being a minority and a federal employee. Furrow surrendered himself to the FBI, and plead guilty to avoid the death penalty.
• 1999 December 31: Four members of the Earth Liberation Front start a fire in Michigan State University's Agriculture Hall causing $1 million in damage.2000 October 13: Firebombing of Temple Beth El (Syracuse)
• 2001 May 21 The Center for Urban Horticulture at the University of Washington burned by the Earth Liberation Front. Replacement building cost $7 million ($9,323,000 today). Earth Liberation Front members plead guilty.[39][40]
• 2001 September 18 - November: 2001 anthrax attacks. Letters tainted with anthrax killed five across the U.S., with politicians and media officials as the apparent targets. On July 31, 2008 Bruce E. Ivins a top biodefense researcher committed suicide.[41] On August 6, 2008, the FBI concluded that Ivins was solely responsible for the attacks, and suggested that Ivins wanted to bolster support for a vaccine he helped create and that he targeted two lawmakers because they were Catholics who held pro-choice views.[42] However, subsequent evaluations have found that the FBI's investigation failed to provide any direct evidence linking Ivins to the mailings.[43]
• October 2002 Beltway sniper attacks: During three weeks in October 2002, John Allen Muhammad and Lee Boyd Malvo killed 10 people and critically injured 3 others in Washington D.C., Baltimore, and Virginia. The pair were also suspected of earlier shootings in Maryland, Alabama, Arizona, Georgia, Louisiana, and Washington state.[46] No motivation was given at the trial, but evidence presented showed an affinity to the cause of the Islamic jihad.
• 2003 Ohio highway sniper attacks A series of over 24 sniper attacks concentrated along the Cap-City Beltway I-270 in the Columbus Metropolitan Area caused widespread fear across Ohio and leaving one dead.
• 2006 July 28: Seattle Jewish Federation shooting, Naveed Afzal Haq, an American citizen of Pakistani descent, killed one woman and shoots five others at the Jewish Federation building in Seattle. During the shooting, Haq told a 911 dispatcher that he was angry with American foreign policy in the Middle East.
• 2007 October 26: A pair of improvised explosive devices were thrown at the Mexican Consulate in New York City. The fake grenades were filled with black powder, and detonated by fuses, causing very minor damage. Police were investigating the connection between this and a similar attack against the British Consulate in New York in 2005.
• 2008 February: In the first reported incident of animal-rights extremists physically assaulted the family members of animal researchers, six masked activists attempted to force their way into the home of a University of California, Santa Cruz, researcher and injured the researcher's husband.
• 2008 March 3: Four luxury woodland houses near Woodinville, Washington were torched, leaving behind a message crediting the Earth Liberation Front.
• 2008 March 6: A homemade bomb damaged a Recruiting Office in Times Square.In June 2013 The FBI and New York City police offered a $65,000 reward for information in the case and revealed that ammunition used for the bomb is the same as is used in the Iraq and Afghanistan war zones. On April 15, 2015 the F.B.I increased the award to $115,000 and said they have persons of interest
• 2008 May 4: Multiple pipe bombs exploded at 1:40 am at the Edward J. Schwartz United States Courthouse in San Diego causing "considerable damage" to the entrance and lobby and sending shrapnel two blocks away, but causing no injuries. The F.B.I. is investigating links between this attack and an April 25 explosion at the FedEx building also in San Diego.
• 2008 August 2, August 3 University of California-Santa Cruz molecular biologist David Feldheim's home was firebombed. A car belonging to another researcher from that university was destroyed by a firebomb in what is presumed to be related. FBI is investigating incidents as domestic terrorism related to animal rights groups.
• 2009 May 31: Assassination of George Tiller: Scott Roeder shoots and kills Dr. George Tiller in a Wichita, Kansas church. Roeder, an anti-abortion extremist who believes in justifiable homicide of abortion providers, was arrested soon afterward. Roeder was convicted of the crime and sentenced to 50 years in prison in 2010. Tiller, who performed late-term abortions, had long been a target of anti-abortion extremists; his clinic was firebombed in 1986 and Tiller was shot and wounded five times in 1993 in a shooting attack by Shelley Shannon.[62][63]
• 2009 May 25: 17-year-old Kyle Shaw sets off a crude explosive device at a Starbucks at East 92nd Street on the Upper East Side of Manhattan, shattering windows and destroyed a bench at the coffee shop. There were no injuries. The attack was a "bizarre tribute" of the movie Fight Club, in an attempt to emulate "Project Mayhem", a series of assaults on corporate America portrayed in the film. Shaw took a plea agreement and was sentenced to 3.5 years in prison in November 2010.[64][65]
• 2009 November 5: 2009 Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan, a US Army Major serving as a Psychiatrist, opens fire at Fort Hood, Texas, killing 13 and wounding 29. On August 23, 2013 Hasan was convicted by a Military tribunal. Hasan acted as his own attorney and took responsibility for the attack saying his motive was jihad to fight "illegal and immoral aggression against Muslims".[67] On August 28 Hasan was sentenced to death.[68]
• 2010 February 18: Austin suicide attack: Andrew Joseph Stack III flying his single engine plane flew into the Austin Texas IRS building killing himself and one IRS employee and injuring 13 others. Stack left a suicide note online, comparing the IRS to Big Brother from the novel 1984.
• 2010 March 4: 2010 Pentagon shooting: John Patrick Bedell shot and wounded two Pentagon police officers at a security checkpoint in the Pentagon station of the Washington Metro rapid transit system in Arlington County, Virginia.
• 2010 September 1: Discovery Communications headquarters hostage crisis: James J. Lee, armed with two starter pistols and an explosive device, takes three people hostage in the lobby of the Discovery Communications headquarters in Silver Spring, Maryland before being killed by police. After nearly four hours, Lee was shot dead by police and all the hostages were freed without injury. Lee had earlier posted a manifesto railing against population growth and immigration.[69][70]
• 2012 August 5: Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting: Six people were killed and three others were injured, including a police officer who was tending to victims at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin. The gunman, 40-year-old Wade Michael Page, killed himself after being shot by police.[71] The shooting is being treated by authorities as an act of domestic terrorism.[72][73] While a motive has not been clearly defined Page had been active in white supremacist groups.[71]
• 2013 April 16: April 2013 ricin letters: Two letters, sent to Mississippi Republican Senator Roger Wicker and president Barack Obama, were tested positive for ricin. Each letter contained the message "I am KC and I approve this message". On April 27, 2013, a man named Everett Dutschke was arrested.
• 2013 November 1: 2013 Los Angeles International Airport shooting: Paul Anthony Ciancia entered the checkpoint at the Los Angeles International Airport and fired his rifle, killing one Transportation Security Administration officer and injuring six others. The motivation behind the attack was Paul's inspiration of the anti-government agenda, such as believing in the New World Order conspiracy theory, and stating that he "wanted to kill TSA" and described them as "pigs".
• 2013 December 13: 2013 Wichita bomb attempt: 58-year-old avionics technician, identified as Terry Lee Loewen, was arrested on December 13, 2013, for attempting a suicide bombing at Wichita Mid-Continent Airport, where he was employed. Loewen became radicalized after reading extremist Islamic material on the Internet. He was arrested while driving a vehicle into the airport with what he believed to be an active explosive device. Later sentenced to 20 years in Federal prison.[84]
• 2014 April 13: Overland Park Jewish Community Center shooting: A pair of shootings committed by a lone gunman occurred at the Jewish Community Center of Greater Kansas City and Village Shalom, a Jewish retirement community, in Overland Park, Kansas. A total of three people died in the shootings. One suspect, identified as Frazier Glenn Miller, Jr., a neo-Nazi neo-Pagan, was arrested and charged with capital murder, first-degree murder, attempted first-degree murder, and aggravated assault.
• 2014 June 8: 2014 Las Vegas shootings: Two police officers and one civilian died in a shooting spree in the Las Vegas Valley committed by a couple, identified as Jerad and Amanda Miller, who espoused anti-government views and were reportedly inspired by the outcome of the Bundy standoff. The Millers both died during a gunfight with responding police; Jerad Miller was fatally shot by officers, while Amanda Miller committed suicide after being wounded.
• 2014 October 23: 2014 New York City hatchet attack: Zale Thompson injured two New York City police officers, once critically at a Queens, New York shopping district by striking them with a hatchet. 4 officers were posing for a photograph when Thompson charged them. The police opened fire killing Thompson and injuring a bystander. Thompson who converted to Islam 2 years before the attack posted "anti-government, anti-Western, anti-white" messages online.[85]
• 2014 November 28: Austin, Texas: Right-wing and anti-government extremist Larry Steven McQuilliams set a fire at the Mexican Consulate and shot towards several government buildings. Police arrived on scene and shot him dead. McQuilliams had a prior criminal history including drug possession and robbery.
• 2014 December 20: Ismaaiyl Brinsley, a reported gang member, allegedly assassinated New York City police officers Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu in the Bedford Stuyvesant section of Brooklyn. Brinsley was reported to have walked up and fired directly into the officers squad car. Other officers chased the suspect into a nearby subway station, where Brinsley fatally shot himself in the head. Prior to the shooting, Brinsley had written Instagram messages calling for revenge attacks in response to the police killings of Eric Garner and Michael Brown. He also allegedly shot his girlfriend in Maryland earlier that day.[89][90]
• 2015 May 3: Curtis Culwell Center attack: Two gunmen opened fire outside the Curtis Culwell Center during an art exhibit hosted by an anti-Muslim group called the American Freedom Defense Initiative in Garland, Texas. The center was hosting a contest for cartoons depicting the Muslim prophet Muhammad. Both gunmen were killed by police. A Garland Independent School District (ISD) police officer was injured by a shot to the ankle but survived. The attackers, Elton Simpson and Nadir Soofi, were motivated by the Charlie Hebdo shooting in France and the 2015 Copenhagen shooting in Denmark earlier in the year. The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant claimed responsibility for the attack through a Twitter post.[91]
• 2015 June 17: Charleston church shooting a mass shooting took place at Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in downtown Charleston, South Carolina, United States. The church is one of the United States' oldest black churches and has long been a site for community organization around civil rights. Nine people were killed, including the senior pastor, Clementa C. Pinckney, a state senator. A tenth victim was also shot, but survived.
• 2015 July 16: 2015 Chattanooga shootings: Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez opened fire on two military installations in Chattanooga, Tennessee. He first committed a drive-by shooting at a recruiting center, then traveled to a naval reserve center and continued firing. He was killed by police in a gunfight. Four Marines were killed immediately, and another Marine, a Navy sailor, and a police officer were wounded; the sailor died from his injuries two days later. The motive of the shootings is currently under investigation.[92]

Removed a bunch that didn't seem to be domestic terror, but it's hard to tell sometimes.

 

[Mammoth Jones]

So other than the typical internet pile-on and fingerpointing at the amorphous blob we classify "right-wingers" and everyone we disagree with politically, what does everyone think about eco-terrorism?

The FBI classified it as the number one source of domestic terrorism until a few years ago.

I don't think setting expensive mansions on fire in California and using laws intended for violent terrorists against idiots that set car dealerships on fire at night that destroy property is in the same ballpark.

Shooting up a Church is terrorism.

 

[Lonewolf_92]

I would like to point to the recent Captain America comic....

bigotry, racism, etc sucks..... 100%. But when you start labeling your CITIZENS (they are still citizens going to work, paying taxes, etc) as terrorists (or in Captain America, an evil super group)....

I mean that's really IMHO possibly not the best way to go about it. "Your beliefs suck" is a far cry from "You are a danger to this country", especially when "this country" to them are other CITIZENS who believe as they do..

I mean this is ultimately a zero sum gain here. I don't see it ending well heading down this path (not that it's going particularly smashing already......)

When those beliefs cause said citizen to monitor the homes of their targets, practice mock assassinations of the targets with scoped rifles, and practice attacks in a mock "Combat City", Illegally purchase and/or modify firearms, build a fortified compound, and use criminal activity to support themselves, those beliefs go way beyond sucking and I think calling them terrorists is not only prudent but correct.