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[Sianos]

game needs some more

but considering how terrible the aim was and the console controls i assume the true game will actually be about running fast

 

[Lemon King]

You mean the virtual non existent AI?

AI was pretty simplistic in Doom, just remember this was long before Behavior Trees were developed.
Such as a Zombie: See Player -> Shoot if in LOS, set timer, move towards player, if wall, determine facing and move once again.

game needs some more

but considering how terrible the aim was and the console controls i assume the true game will actually be about running fast

ID was using a TON of smoothing to make mouse/controller movement look good for the demo.

 

[Wishmaster92]

Looks so fucking good.

 

[JimiNutz]

They just showed a new trailer on the post conference show (trailer was not shown on stage).
Looked faster than the stage demo and looks like the enemy count picks up a bit in the other levels.

Remember we only saw easier/early levels in the stage demo and you know it's going to get way more hectic and chaotic later on.

 

[CLEEK]

Terrible weapon feedback. Never more than a few enemies on screen. Disappointed with the first showing.

Yeah, exactly. DOOM is all about punchy weapons and crown control. Not sniper rifles and viceregal attacks against a handful of enemies. So disappointing when sequels come out that ignore the core gameplay mechanics that made the originals so great.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Dumb Question: who made this game? iD or Bethesda? Or some sort of partnership?

 

[SJRB]

The music really stood out to me, so freaking dope. Awesome blend of metal/electronics.

 

[Ionic]

Looking forward to it.

Not a huge fan of the retuning Doom 3 enemy design for the hell knights, though.

The Hell Knight is actually my favorite enemy design from Doom 3. I'm happy to see them here too, but I wish they were a little more torn up or something. The thing that does bug me is that it looks like they're using the Doom 3 Cacodemons which I thought were very inferior to the original incarnation.

 

[Alienous]

Mick Gordon, I assume?

 

[Mobius 1]

Dumb Question: who made this game? iD or Bethesda? Or some sort of partnership?

iD is the developer, Bethesda is the publisher.

 

[geomon]

Never a big Doom fan but that looked slick as shit.

 

[.la1n]

The music really stood out to me, so freaking dope. Awesome blend of metal/electronics.

Mick Gordon is so good.

 

[cj_iwakura]

Looks fun, but the AI seems like no threat at all. If you wade into a mob like that in Doom 1 or 2, you're dead.

 

[RoboPlato]

Dumb Question: who made this game? iD or Bethesda? Or some sort of partnership?

Bethesda owns iD

iD develops, Beth publishes

 

[Komo]

A little slow, but I liked what I saw.

Basically my reaction

 

[Lemon King]

Yeah, exactly. DOOM is all about punchy weapons and crown control. Not sniper rifles and viceregal attacks against a handful of enemies. So disappointing when sequels come out that ignore the core gameplay mechanics that made the originals so great.

Take a look at Brutal DOOM.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSzYliSASKc

 

[HORRORSHØW]

Looks fun, but the AI seems like no threat at all. If you wade into a mob like that in Doom 1 or 2, you're dead.

par for the course for stage demos

 

[Woorloog]

Looks fun, but the AI seems like no threat at all.

PR demo, so it is probably on Easy with scripted AI and events, and probably has god-mode enabled as well.
These never show how games work in reality on high difficulty with skilled player.

 

[7DollarHagane]

That looked great. The more open arena in the hell area looked like a LOT of fun. Will buy.

 

[Laevateinn]

The thing that stood out for me the most as a turnoff was that every enemy dropped health and ammo. That ain't DOOM. That's borderline regenerating health.

Someone else noticed that! Thank you. This right here is what took the game from instabuy to probably not gonna get it.

 

[charsace]

This looks like a follow up to where Doom seemed to be going with Doom 2. Doom 2 single player was about getting up close and destroying. Fists, chainsaw, and shotgun is what the 2's single player was mostly about, at least for me.

 

[human onion]

Also not much of a level design showcase, which is king in Doom 1 and 2. Again, that kind of design doesn't make for the best demo, but we didn't get even a whiff of a key.

 

[visiblemode]

Man I hate being negative about it, because I was pysched.

Yet, this left me a bit empty.

I'll play it, for sure, but after all this waiting I expected to have my socks blown off.

Spoiler

I'm still wearing socks.

 

[antitrop]

1080p/60fps confirmed on post-show.

 

[dmr87]

Just said 1080p/60 on stream, not that I'm gonna play on console.

 

[ChamplooJones]

Something tells me were not going to get an evolution of classic Doom-era level design with this game.

 

[Hitokiri03]

Disappointed :/

It looks like Doom 3.

Even the soundtrack is meh.

 

[Wishmaster92]

1080p/60fps confirmed on post-show.

Wow but it looked so good?

 

[charsace]

Also not much of a level design showcase, which is king in Doom 1 and 2. Again, that kind of design doesn't make for the best demo, but we didn't get even a whiff of a key.

They showcased a key. He took the guys hand off to unlock the door.

 

[SirMossyBloke]

Take a look at Brutal DOOM.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSzYliSASKc

That looks AWFUL. Cracked screen when you're hit? M4 rifles? Punching?

Made by a neo-nazi no less.

 

[Starsunder]

im down

 

[DrLudgerBrink]

Man this game. The hype is real. This is what Doom 3 should have been! Just beautiful.

 

[CLEEK]

Take a look at Brutal DOOM.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSzYliSASKc

I know, right. Compare and contrast that to what has just been shown off. New DOOM just has flourishes of pointless animations for picking up weapons, melee attacks and finishers. Slows down gameplay. Original DOOM is twitch gaming at its best. Everything is fast and has a purpose, and even the most basic weapons hit hard.

 

[bananafactory]

Wow but it looked so good?

It was probably running on PC

 

[Orthogonal]

Disappointed :/

It looks like Doom 3.

Eh, the looks aren't as important. Not sure how you would change it.

It's the combat that is very un-Doom-3-like that is important. Fast paced carnage is what Doom is all about.

 

[Smokey]

looks dope af im in

 

[Kacho]

Overall I was disappointed. I was expecting actual classic DOOM and not some weird classic/cinematic hybrid. The Hell section looked better but I'm definitely not sold on it. I also thought the way enemies died and exploded looked off, can't quite put my finger on it.

 

[IronLich]

Weapon Wheel is mandatory for consoles, but at least it means you carry ALL the weapons like you should. Wolfenstein TNO had that, and that was a great FPS.

Otherwise, I'm not feeling the fast action shooter of the DOOMs of old, which if you're not going to try to capture the old DOOMs, then don't give it the DOOM label. It's a spit in the face of Shores of Hell.

I wish the showing had more enemy variety. 80% of the enemies on display were imps or undead mutant soliders with stuff grafted to their arm. Maybe a peek at a revenant, but otherwise generic looking pus demons. I want something a little more... animated. Something, anything to distinguish one human looking hellspawn from another.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I dunno, I never thought of a game like DOOM being about melee executions. It feels like they made Gears of Doom I guess.

 

[Overside]

Something tells me were not going to get an evolution of classic Doom-era level design with this game.

 

[Easy_D]

After hearing those impressions from the behind closed doors stuff I thought this was gonna be better. This looks more like Doom 3-2 to me.

 

[Toxi]

They just revealed that there are more kinds of demons you can transform into in multiplayer than just the Revenant, which is nice.

Also not much of a level design showcase, which is king in Doom 1 and 2. Again, that kind of design doesn't make for the best demo, but we didn't get even a whiff of a key.

The level design in the hell area was kinda nice (Got different routes and layers), but the interior section was awful, even with the half-assed key.

 

[Dufase19089]

Doom Trailer - https://youtu.be/an5AZXuCoy8

Doom Demo Part 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsE8_TdmvLI

Doom Demo Part 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWBdwWdF4uA

 

[SirMossyBloke]

As I pointed out in the stream thread, the hell level they showed shows that this is not the case.

 

[Lemon King]

That looks AWFUL. Cracked screen when you're hit? M4 rifles? Punching?

Made by a neo-nazi no less.

I'm pointing out close quarter combat mechanics found in DOOM 4 were probably inspired by Brutal DOOM.
Yes BD has some issues, but the core gameplay is there.

 

[Goddard]

This is a real shame, it's a franchise with so much potential, so much history, and with people so heavily invested both emotionally and financially, but it's just a generic spunkgargleweewee. I wanted to believe.

 

[Hunter S.]

It was not bloody enough for me.

 

[nikos]

Video compression is bad, but it's exactly what I'd expect from a next-gen version a of Doom, which is a good thing.

 

[jerry1594]

That looks AWFUL. Cracked screen when you're hit? M4 rifles? Punching?

Made by a neo-nazi no less.

Who?

 

[Balmung421]

Bloody excited for this.