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[ziran]

this is all E3 info, but in the mass hysteria people may have missed it. the game sounds totally awesome, especially the mario kart style two player mode [] and i can't wait for its release

taken from nintendo europe.

- all-new 2D platformer
- familiar side-scrolling action rendered in detailed 3D
- camera zooms in and out of the action, like super smash bros
- new power-ups

- trademark moves still remain intact, but there are many new additions
- platforms move more erratically

- power-ups can be collected for later use, stored on touch screen, selectable with a tap of your finger
- ropes can be climbed or swung across

- ability to bound off vertical surfaces
- rainbow-coloured rings act as mid-level checkpoints
- indicator on the lower screen shows your position between start and goal
- inventive level design of previous 2D Mario games is back
- two player mode:

...One player controls Mario, while the other takes hold of Luigi as you race through a number of side-scrolling environments. With Mario Kart-style items that can be used to slow down your buddy, such as a lightning bolt which will shrink him to the size of an ant, you'll have as much fun playing with your friends as trying to beat the single player adventure...

NOA website

NOA video

 

[Syb]

WTF

What is the difference between this and Mario/Luigi 2?

 

[imastalker co.]

genres.

anyways, none of this stuff seems new.

 

[Ruud_Luiten]

This game looks like fun. I hope for a long 1-player mode.

 

[u_neek]

WTF

What is the difference between this and Mario/Luigi 2?

Are you stupid?


... oh, junior member. Sorry!

 

[Kai Dracon]

Old school.

Koopa style.

Roots.

Mine.

 

[Syb]

Are you stupid?


... oh, junior member. Sorry!

To the mis-informed (Ie, Me and many others) both could appear to be the same game.

Mario & Luigi 2
+ 2 Player

Super Mario Bros
+ 2 Player

 

[imastalker co.]

i take that back, the video up on the site is new, and it looks pretty damn awesome over all. seems to have a heavy focus on co-op as well.

 

[temp]

To the mis-informed (Ie, Me and many others) both could appear to be the same game.

Mario & Luigi 2
+ 2 Player

Super Mario Bros
+ 2 Player

Are you being serious?

 

[Mihail]

Uh... Mario & Luigi is a RPG, so I assume Mario & Luigi 2 is also a RPG. Super Mario Bros. DS is a platformer.

 

[thegodsend]

i take that back, the video up on the site is new, and it looks pretty damn awesome over all. seems to have a heavy focus on co-op as well.

nope, it's from E3.

 

[Syb]

Are you being serious?

Did you notice the bit that went..

"To the mis-informed (Ie, Me)..."

?

 

[Hyoushi]

Sex

 

[temp]

Did you notice the bit that went..

"To the mis-informed (Ie, Me)..."

?

Mario and Luigi 2: 1 player RPG.

New Super Mario Bros.: 2 player platformer.

 

[Tempy]

Did you notice the bit that went..

"To the mis-informed (Ie, Me)..."

?

Anybody who've actually seen screenshots of both games will see that they are different. I'm assuming you haven't, yet you assume they're similar because they have both Mario and Luigi. Anyway like someone else mentioned - one is an rpg, the other is an action platformer. Please do some research next time. A quick hop over to ds.ign.com for instance would've answered all your questions.

 

[Madame M]

3D is stupid

I hope the gameplay doesn't suffer from it (the videos make it look weird)

 

[Particle Physicist]

3D is stupid

I hope the gameplay doesn't suffer from it (the videos make it look weird)

its 2d gameplay. the characters are just made with polygons.

the 2 player mode sounds like it could be a lot of fun.

 

[Madame M]

Doesn't mean the physics don't look off

 

[Infernal Monkey]

To the idiots (Ie, Me) both could appear to be the same game.

Mario & Luigi 2
+ 2 Player

Super Mario Bros
+ 2 Player

Fixed.

 

[Screenboy]

Why do the clouds look real?!

I want smilie faces dammit!

 

[MrCheez]

Wow, looks hawt in motion.

 

[Do The Mario]

So this is new mario kart?

 

[Tempy]

So this is new mario kart?

........

 

[Worm_Buffet]

Ugh, that music is incredibly clichéd.

 

[silenttwn]

Ugh, that music is incredibly clichéd.

It's Mario, wtf were you expecting?

 

[Particle Physicist]

Doesn't mean the physics don't look off

looks fine in the video.

 

[AndoCalrissian]

Yay for horrible, uninspired graphics.

 

[SantaC]

finally a new mario platformer, and all people do is complain :/

 

[SantaC]

i take that back, the video up on the site is new, and it looks pretty damn awesome over all. seems to have a heavy focus on co-op as well.

it says E3 video. All these info and media are old. Stop posting old previews.

 

[madara]

This rendered 3d is doing nothing for me in least, it looks butt ugly.

 

[Coen]

Still think they should've chosen sprites over polygons. Nintendo's sprite-based games just give them a sense of style most polygon-games are missing, especially on older hardware.

 

[Instigator]

This rendered 3d is doing nothing for me in least, it looks butt ugly.

Agreed. They should have used big, refined, 2D sprites. The DS can't handle sprite rotation and scaling without massive pixelation, but it would be better than the subpar 3D.

 

[AB 101]

 

[Kon Tiki]

No, a new platform game is not milking it, there has not been a new one since 1992(?). Mario baseball, Mario football, Mario Gold, Mario Party is.

 

[Instigator]

Still think they should've chosen sprites over polygons. Nintendo's sprite-based games just give them a sense of style most polygon-games are missing, especially on older hardware.

I think they did it as a marketing pitch to help the DS. If they had used sprites, the game could have been done on a GBA. By using 3D, at least 3D beyond the GBA's capabilities, it shows off DS hardware in a way a more conventional approach wouldn't.

 

[Mama Smurf]

I think the 3D parts look quite nice, especially in motion, and hopefully it'll let them do more interesting things than you can with sprites...but I can't argue about the backgrounds. Total loss of all Mario charm there.

 

[AB 101]

No, a new platform game is not milking it, there has not been a new one since 1992(?). Mario baseball, Mario football, Mario Gold, Mario Party is.

How about a non Mario platformer then?

Oh, and you forgot Mario Tennis and Soccer (I think).

Now Mario Does the Princess would be at least different.

 

[Kon Tiki]

How about a non Mario platformer then?

Mario and Luigi? ( It is an RPG)

I do not think the characters are suited for mature themed games.

 

[SantaC]

I got news, it's been over 10 years since we had a new 2D mario platformer.

Mario and his fucking sports habits are milking, but not this.

 

[Mama Smurf]

Even then, it's only milking of the character. Mario Party is the only real milking of a game that Nintendo's done with Mario. The others are one game a generation, which is pretty restrained given some of their sales.

 

[SantaC]

Even then, it's only milking of the character. Mario Party is the only real milking of a game that Nintendo's done with Mario. The others are one game a generation, which is pretty restrained given some of their sales.

yer right.

btw, any chance we might see wifi-online co-op in this game?

 

[Mashing]

Anyone who complains about 2d mario platformer needs to be taken outside and shot in the fucking face.

 

[Deleted member 1235]

Fixed.

if people keep saying that pretty soon I won't have much skin left to tear off each time I hear it.

 

[Ristamar]

Anyone who complains about 2d mario platformer needs to be taken outside and shot in the fucking face.

I like your style.

 

[Kai Dracon]

finally a new mario platformer, and all people do is complain :/

At this point, I'm having to conclude that people are generally spoiled, petty, and care only about what they want to see with an off-the-cuff desire that isn't thought out.

f'instance, complaints about the graphics? About the 'horrible' DS 3D having no 'charm'? It's true that 2D would look nice, and what would look really impressive would be some truly high-res 2D, like say, Gamecube Paper Mario visuals for a platformer. But at the same time, watching this game in motion seems to indicate *it's all about the motion* for New Super Mario Bros. The game looks 'cartoon rubbery' and bouncy and full of PHYSICS as all get-out.

But rather than go "hmm, intriguing this strategy", it's just canned responses that DS polygons suck.

From where I'm standing the game looks like a complete firecracker in motion, and that's where its 'charm' lays.

 

[Mrbob]

It would have been cool to use the style from Yoshis Island for this game. DS 3D just looks bad to me. Anyway, I'm excited to finally see a new 2D Mario game. The two player mode is a little confusing. Is it a co-op mode or versus mode? The description makes it sound more like a vs mode.

Looking at the pics again, I'd say the background detail is the most disappointing. Blue background with sparse clouds. WTF happened? I'm replaying Super Mario World again and the colorful background detail is so awesome. It isn't too detailed but at least it is colorful and more to it:

All you need to do is boot up Super Mario World and on the first stage the scrolling background looks great. New Super Mario Bros looks bare.

 

[Ranger X]

We have a true new Mario. It's 2D in gameplay. It's the fucking dream.
I can't believe there is this much complaining. What are you dreaming for people?
You prefer to receive some cheap remakes and ported shit?
This game look awesome and it's about time Nintendo gives us a new Mario. My expectations are high and this game is extremely interesting. Those complaining here will forever complain about everything anyway and should just STFU imo.

 

[Tiktaalik]

compared to Yoshi's Island, the graphics are really subpar. They need to add some more layers of backgrounds.

 

[human5892]

I'm excited as hell by this game, but holy shit does that Mario model suck. And that's not even getting into those level backgrounds.

 

[Mallrat83]

What they need to do is go ahead and name the game Super Mario Bros 4. I would pass out were that to happen.