ManaByte
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They sell well for single-player games, but if you compare it to the 200M people who play Fortnite every month it puts it into perspective.
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Enough with this cinematic gameplay bs
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They sell well for single-player games, but if you compare it to the 200M people who play Fortnite every month it puts it into perspective.
That particular section of Ragnarok was so boring, I’d much rather watch a 10-15 minute cutscene of Atreus going through that area than ride slowly around it for an hour doing boring AF menial tasks along the way.
In RDR2 it wasn’t too bad because you can set your horse to follow a route while you sit back for 5 minutes.
In RDR2 it wasn’t too bad because you can set your horse to follow a route while you sit back for 5 minutes.
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StereoVsn
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There should be an option to skip a section or make it a cutscene they can be skipped. At least with a cutscene you can do something else while the game plays in the background. Better yet let me fast forward.
Either of the options are ok to have (preferably with fast forwarding/skip capability) the first time around, but they are hell if you want to replay the game.
Either of the options are ok to have (preferably with fast forwarding/skip capability) the first time around, but they are hell if you want to replay the game.
Lunarorbit
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Not to derail the thread but that MJ sequence in the 1st Spiderman was such a kick in the balls for exactly this reason. I didn't mind the doc ock puzzles cause at least you did something.
I didn't enjoy the walking sections in 2018 gow that were glorified loading screens but at least it was some what interesting.
ChoosableOne
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NeverYouMind
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I have to disagree with you. The point is Nemesis is a formidable monster and he is after Jill like the Terminator. It makes sense at the beginning because Jill has no way to fight back. Chase sequences get the blood pumping, while walk and talks act as a gatekeeper of gameplay segments. However, chase sequences cannot be too long and require a breather to recharge focus. RE3R is perfection.
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Hrk69
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Usually the perfect time to grab the bong
Topher
Gold Member
Ya'll playing visual novels or something? lol
SeraphJan
Member
Different type of game are to please different type of audiences, "its not for you" does not equivalent to "skill issue", you are assuming difficulty is the only thing that matter, I'm not saying Ragnarok is hard, you are strawmanning. Some people hates cinematic segment while others don't.
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Varteras
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Pentiment had particularly riveting gameplay...
Knightime_X
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Is it like Metal Gear Rising or earlier god of war games?
Yes
Yes
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ChoosableOne
ChoosableAll
I've completed the entire Metal Gear series and most narrative-driven games without skipping a single scene. I enjoy cinematic storytelling, and if I'm not intrigued by the story, I wouldn't bother finishing these games. However, I get frustrated if experiencing this requires me to constantly push the left analog stick forward and if I can't skip certain sections when I want to.
Thirty7ven
Banned
There are so many other games to play that don’t do this, in fact the vast majority of games don’t do this, so just go play those other games instead of demanding every game be like you want.
Fbh
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Said in other threads but modern cinematic games suck.
People complained about cutscenes but at least those got to the point relatively quickly and were (mostly) skippable if you didn't care for the plot or just wanted to replay the game.
Now we have all these "in game storytelling" which involves 40 minutes long sequences were you barely do anything.
Cinematic gaming during the height of the Ps3 era was like
"So there's this shootout on moving trucks and you need to fight enemies as you jump from one truck to the other"
"Oh so you are on this moving train which is full of enemies and you need to fight your way to the front of it as it moves through this beautiful environment and then like a chopper shows up and things get crazy"
Cinematic games now:
"You spend 30 minutes walking through this aquarium looking at pretty graphics as you talk about your feeling with your wannabe boyfriend.....for the fourth time in like 4 hours of gameplay"
People complained about cutscenes but at least those got to the point relatively quickly and were (mostly) skippable if you didn't care for the plot or just wanted to replay the game.
Now we have all these "in game storytelling" which involves 40 minutes long sequences were you barely do anything.
Cinematic gaming during the height of the Ps3 era was like
"So there's this shootout on moving trucks and you need to fight enemies as you jump from one truck to the other"
"Oh so you are on this moving train which is full of enemies and you need to fight your way to the front of it as it moves through this beautiful environment and then like a chopper shows up and things get crazy"
Cinematic games now:
"You spend 30 minutes walking through this aquarium looking at pretty graphics as you talk about your feeling with your wannabe boyfriend.....for the fourth time in like 4 hours of gameplay"
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StueyDuck
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It depends on how the writing is. You list two great examples so you aren't really helping your point.
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BouncyFrag
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The Boi sections where he is constantly whining that he can fix the shit caused is bloody awful.
SlimeGooGoo
Party Gooper
Shadow of the Colossus is one of the few "cinematic" games done right.
Most of what we get today is done by pretentious developers that *wish* they were doing movies instead.
Most of what we get today is done by pretentious developers that *wish* they were doing movies instead.
DrFigs
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as far as I know in tlou2 you can just skip these sections after you beat them the first time.Said in other threads but modern cinematic games suck.
People complained about cutscenes but at least those got to the point relatively quickly and were (mostly) skippable if you didn't care for the plot or just wanted to replay the game.
Now we have all these "in game storytelling" which involves 40 minutes long sequences were you barely do anything.
Cinematic gaming during the height of the Ps3 era was like
"So there's this shootout on moving trucks and you need to fight enemies as you jump from one truck to the other"
"Oh so you are on this moving train which is full of enemies and you need to fight your way to the front of it as it moves through this beautiful environment and then like a chopper shows up and things get crazy"
Cinematic games now:
"You spend 30 minutes walking through this aquarium looking at pretty graphics as you talk about your feeling with your wannabe boyfriend.....for the fourth time in like 4 hours of gameplay"
my issue with these parts is that they can be more fun. but they reveal pretty important story stuff. it'd be weird if you could just skip over them. and i don't see how they're different from having a long cutscene either.
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Lethal01
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then make the gameplay section skippable at the very least
DrFigs
Member
i think there's a lot of exaggeration about how long these sections are. except for gow ragnarok. it's a huge problem in that game. idk what the devs were thinking. The Atreus section in the jungle slows the pace of the game down to a crawl and is just incredibly boring for a long ass time. and unlike naughty dog games, i don't recall there being chapter select - so you're forced to replay those sections again. but again i think for tlou2, spiderman 2,etc. there's a ton of exaggeration about how long these sections really are.
KXVXII9X
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Why do so many people complain about cutscenes or narrative segments in heavily narrative driven games? There are so manty games now without many cutscenes that are skippable and prioritize gameplay. Some people like games that take time to explore character development and present things in a more cinematic way. I think more cutscenes should be able to be skipped to have more options to players as well as having more seamless transitions and different ways to present the story. I really like how BG3 story is presented and weaved in the gameplay while also having high quality cutscenes and character moments.
I think there needs to be much more progress in A.I., animations and physics to offer more seamless story to gameplay transitions. There is definitely room for improvements for sure.
I think there needs to be much more progress in A.I., animations and physics to offer more seamless story to gameplay transitions. There is definitely room for improvements for sure.
Topher
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Apparently you can skip cutscenes in TLOU 2 at any time.
"The quick answer to the question of whether you can skip cutscenes in The Last of Us Part 2 is yes, you can. So, how do you skip them? Well, all you need to do during a cutscene is press Options and select the option to ‘Skip Cinematic’ and you’re all set."
Can you skip cutscenes in The Last of Us Part 2?
Find out whether you can speed things up by skipping cutscenes in The Last of Us Part 2.
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Werewolf Jones
Gold Member
God of War Ragnarok is a shit game that's your primary issue.
DrFigs
Member
ah i don't remember. i guess that's good for people who want to skip the story for whatever reason. i thought you could only skip if you had already seen the cutscene, so if you can skip the cutscene the first time, that's interesting. but i think the cinematic gameplay sections is what people are most concerned about and those i don't think you can skip the first time around. perhaps i am wrong there too.Apparently you can skip cutscenes in TLOU 2 at any time.
"The quick answer to the question of whether you can skip cutscenes in The Last of Us Part 2 is yes, you can. So, how do you skip them? Well, all you need to do during a cutscene is press Options and select the option to ‘Skip Cinematic’ and you’re all set."
Can you skip cutscenes in The Last of Us Part 2?
Find out whether you can speed things up by skipping cutscenes in The Last of Us Part 2.
Swagballs717
Member
Personally I blame Sony's love of "cinematic experiences" on The Last of Us
The story is clearly where most of the effort went, the gameplay is basic third person shooting with crafting elements. Of the two games that came out on October 20, I think I prefer Super Mario Bros. Wonder because Marvel's Spider-Man 2 has its alzheimer's flare up every now and again and forgets that it's a video game and not the director's demo reel attempt to make movies or prestige TV.
I am thoroughly sick of just holding forward and just listening to two characters talk to each other or holding forward to complete the Sony Brand Scripted Cinematic Chase Sequence where you run in a straight line as all the exciting stuff happens around you.
The story is clearly where most of the effort went, the gameplay is basic third person shooting with crafting elements. Of the two games that came out on October 20, I think I prefer Super Mario Bros. Wonder because Marvel's Spider-Man 2 has its alzheimer's flare up every now and again and forgets that it's a video game and not the director's demo reel attempt to make movies or prestige TV.
I am thoroughly sick of just holding forward and just listening to two characters talk to each other or holding forward to complete the Sony Brand Scripted Cinematic Chase Sequence where you run in a straight line as all the exciting stuff happens around you.
Loke
Member
Yes, Starfield is chock-full of them for some reason. Worst part is that NPC's walk faster than you so you can't match their speed with your own walking pace. So you have to constantly run forward and stop, run forward and stop etc. etc. Why the fuck don't we walk at the same pace?
SeraphJan
Member
at least skippable after retry or second playthroughOP's only options in the poll:
So, ummm... I guess I can't like them AND think they should be skippable.
- Yes, I like those parts
- No, they should be skippable
Topher
Gold Member
To me, the gameplay in both TLOU and TLOU 2 are fantastic if they are played more as a stealth game than a shooter.
darrylgorn
Member
I've never experienced what OP is talking about here.
Is this only in Sony games?
Is this only in Sony games?
Hugare
Member
I dont mind them during my first playthrough, but not being able to skip them on replays is awful
A cutscene doesnt replace those cinematic sequences. If you think so, you're an idiot.
Imagine having John Marston sacrifice at the end of RDR being a cutscene, or so many sequences from the Uncharted series and etc.
"That's why I preffer Elden Ring/Souls games". Sure, but no one gives a shit about these games stories.
The cinematic walk has its purpose, but they should always, always be skippable in replays.
I would never replay Ragnarok.
A cutscene doesnt replace those cinematic sequences. If you think so, you're an idiot.
Imagine having John Marston sacrifice at the end of RDR being a cutscene, or so many sequences from the Uncharted series and etc.
"That's why I preffer Elden Ring/Souls games". Sure, but no one gives a shit about these games stories.
The cinematic walk has its purpose, but they should always, always be skippable in replays.
I would never replay Ragnarok.
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Morrie’s wig shop
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Easy peasy, stop having so much story in your game……
I really don’t mind it, the first game to do it was Gears right….
Sushi_Combo
Member
Unfortunately this is just the truth. From story to gameplay, it's such a big step back from GOW 2018.
Laieon
Member
I love both 2018 and Ragnarok, but both are a big step down from the original trilogy.
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Sushi_Combo
Member
It's fine, But I just cannot agree with that.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
Those moments are a real drag, and I think there are better ways to explain the story than those walk and talk moments. They should be skippable.
ahtlas7
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Press to win.
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Hudo
Member
Fully agree with this.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
I fail to see how games like these are the majority of games. There are a lot of AAA that dont take this approach
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RoboFu
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Not really, even games like GT7 and Forza has these long winded un skippable long opening cutscenes the first time you boot them open.
But there was soo many games this year with long winded openings that I nearly just didn’t bother. Spider-Man 2 was most recent. Starfield, Diablo 4.., FF16 just kept get worse as the game went on.
hell even Pikmin 4 had a long drawn out intro that I did just turn it off the first time I played it. Games used to have a very short opening cutscene then you were playing. I really miss that. If I wanted to watch movies I’d rather go the theater.
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