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[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Seems weird as PS Plus is not a requirement to play FFXIV on PS4/PS5..

The Free Trial version, including the open beta test, will not require an Xbox Game Pass (Core or Ultimate) plan to play. However, the full Xbox Series X|S version will require an Xbox Game Pass (Core or Ultimate) plan to play.

How to Participate in the Xbox Series X|S Open Beta Test | FINAL FANTASY XIV, The Lodestone

How to Participate in the Xbox Series X|S Open Beta Test

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Gaming news sites are picking up on the story:

Does Final Fantasy XIV need Game Pass on Xbox Series X/S?​

Yes, Final Fantasy XIV will require an Xbox Game Pass Core or Ultimate subscription on Xbox Series X/S. This comes courtesy of the official Final Fantasy XIV website, which explains the paid structure for the game after it leaves beta.

“The Free Trial version, including the open beta test, will not require an Xbox Game Pass (Core or Ultimate) plan to play. However, the full Xbox Series X|S version will require an Xbox Game Pass (Core or Ultimate) plan to play.”

It should be clarified that this means you need an Xbox Game Pass Core or Ultimate sub to be able to play Final Fantasy XIV along with a separate paid subscription to the game, not that it will be free to subscribers.

This is a surprising choice, as PlayStation Plus isn’t required for the PlayStation versions of the game. Those wishing to visit Eorzea for the first time on Xbox Series X/S will have to double-dip on spending for the game.

Do you need Xbox Game Pass for Final Fantasy XIV? - Dexerto

After years of anticipation, Final Fantasy XIV is finally coming to Xbox Series S/X, but will players need Xbox Game Pass to play?

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This is worse. Existing players can't play the beta.

Existing FINAL FANTASY XIV Players​

Players who already have the Free Trial version for a different platform or a FINAL FANTASY XIV license registered to their Square Enix account will be unable to participate in the open beta test. We ask any players, who wish to play FINAL FANTASY XIV on Xbox with an existing Square Enix account and its associated characters, to please wait until the full Xbox launch after the open beta test concludes.

 

[tommycronin]

 

[AV]

Does it actually say that?

"the full Xbox Series X|S version will require an Xbox Game Pass (Core or Ultimate) plan to play"

 

[Beer Baelly]

Square wont shoot themselves in the foot

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Does it actually say that?

"the full Xbox Series X|S version will require an Xbox Game Pass (Core or Ultimate) plan to play"

Yeah it does, hence why I started this thread.

 

[Revolutionary]

So you will need two subs to play XIV on Xbox...

 

[gokurho]

Seems weird as PS Plus is not a requirement to play FFXIV on PS4/PS5..

How to Participate in the Xbox Series X|S Open Beta Test | FINAL FANTASY XIV, The Lodestone

How to Participate in the Xbox Series X|S Open Beta Test

eu.finalfantasyxiv.com

Good decision,Phil

 

[M1chl]

Even if you buy it, or meaning that if you get it on GamePass?

 

[AV]

Yeah it does, hence why I started this thread.

Right I'm with you now, I thought for a minute PS+ had the sub rolled in.

This is DOA, then. Rethinking it, it's probably not that big a deal. Still not a great look.

 

[Mowcno]

Even if you buy it, or meaning that if you get it on GamePass?

If you buy it you need the sub. The free trial is classed as F2P so like other F2P games on Xbox no sub is required. However once you purchase the game you then need gamepass to play it. It is the standard procedure but it is weird that you don't need PS+ but you will need GP.

Sony seemingly waived the PS+ requirement for FFXIV but MS has not done the same.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Right I'm with you now, I thought for a minute PS+ had the sub rolled in.

This is DOA, then.

Yup, you don't need PS+ just the game's subscription. They're very clear about it on the FFXIV product page.

 

[GHG]

 

[clarky]

I know this is besides the point bit the amount of people on xbox without core or ultimate must be zero.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

This first page is full of great Xbox news. What happened this weekend?

 

[Lucifers Beard]

Such a rip off. You have to buy the game and expansions, a subscription to the platform online service and then a monthly subscription to the game.

 

[TheTony316]

So much for being consumer friendly. You can play the game on Playstation without a PS+ sub.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Two subscriptions to play FFXIV on Xbox?

Bunch of buffoons.

 

[squarealex]

Why every news on Xbox getting worse ?

 

[M1chl]

If you buy it you need the sub. The free trial is classed as F2P so like other F2P games on Xbox no sub is required. However once you purchase the game you then need gamepass to play it. It is the standard procedure but it is weird that you don't need PS+ but you will need GP.

Sony seemingly waived the PS+ requirement for FFXIV but MS has not done the same.

Oh, well, not in target audience luckily. It feels archaic to have it like that, if they aren't offering some extra stuff over general GaaS (I have done zero research)

 

[ManaByte]

This is worse. Existing players can't play the beta.

Existing FINAL FANTASY XIV Players​

Players who already have the Free Trial version for a different platform or a FINAL FANTASY XIV license registered to their Square Enix account will be unable to participate in the open beta test. We ask any players, who wish to play FINAL FANTASY XIV on Xbox with an existing Square Enix account and its associated characters, to please wait until the full Xbox launch after the open beta test concludes.

 

[Zheph]

Wasn't it one of the requirements (+ crossplay) from SE? I guess they got a fat wallet to just do it anyway... seems DOA on that platform tho

 

[demigod]

Good decision,Phil

Agreed, really smart of him shooting themselves in the foot.

 

[TheTony316]

This is worse. Existing players can't play the beta.

Existing FINAL FANTASY XIV Players​

Players who already have the Free Trial version for a different platform or a FINAL FANTASY XIV license registered to their Square Enix account will be unable to participate in the open beta test. We ask any players, who wish to play FINAL FANTASY XIV on Xbox with an existing Square Enix account and its associated characters, to please wait until the full Xbox launch after the open beta test concludes.

This is DOA on Xbox. I'm an active player and was able to play the beta on PS5.

 

[Raonak]

This is legitimately backwards.

 

[kikii]

Does it actually say that?

"the full Xbox Series X|S version will require an Xbox Game Pass (Core or Ultimate) plan to play"

u also have to buy the game and min 11€ sub per month, tho ofc there is free version but its limited very much of features, less see u in omega ^^ i wil fak up ur ankles uwu

 

[KungFucius]

I know this is besides the point bit the amount of people on xbox without core or ultimate must be zero.

It isn't though. Why create such negative drama when the number of people who would be impacted by this is so low? It is a phenomenally dumb move.

 

[Zuzu]

Xbox is dead.

Death by a thousand cuts.

 

[Belthazar]

I know this is besides the point bit the amount of people on xbox without core or ultimate must be zero.

I don't think so. The last known number was ~46 million, with there being more than 100 million monthly users on the Xbox ecosystem. You do the math.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

This is exactly how all online games work on Xbox and has been for like 15 years. I guess I’m not seeing the issue

 

[clarky]

I don't think so. The last known number was ~46 million, with there being more than 100 million monthly users on the Xbox ecosystem. You do the math.

Theres not 100 million people playing on xbox. not even close.

Do the Math.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

I don't think so. The last known number was ~46 million, with there being more than 100 million monthly users on the Xbox ecosystem. You do the math.

Nvm wrong post

 

[MagiusNecros]

This is exactly how all online games work on Xbox and has been for like 15 years. I guess I’m not seeing the issue

Not many are going to want to pay two subscription fees for one game. Not to mention having to buy base game and the purchase of separate expansions.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

I know this is besides the point bit the amount of people on xbox without core or ultimate must be zero.

Nope. I’m subbed maybe 2 months out of the year on average, at most. Really only to try out a big new game so I don’t have to buy it.

 

[Astray]

Where's that video of that guy who squealed in delight when Phil came on stage with Yoshi-P? Looks moronic in light of this tbh.

 

[phaedrus]

 

[clarky]

Nope. I’m subbed maybe 2 months out of the year on average, at most. Really only to try out a big new game so I don’t have to buy it.

If you don't sub to Core(gold) or Ultimate, then what are you using it for? Genuine question.

 

[DryvBy]

I know this is besides the point bit the amount of people on xbox without core or ultimate must be zero.

I don't have either. I quit subbing to them during the 360 era. That $1 deals were as far as I ever took Gamepass.

 

[lh032]

and visions of mana is not coming to gamepass as well.

i thought last year SE new CEO is very buddy buddy with Microsoft, what happen now?

 

[clarky]

I don't have either. I quit subbing to them during the 360 era. That $1 deals were as far as I ever took Gamepass.

Gamepass core is just the old Gold. If your an xbox owner, and own nothing else, which this release of FFIV is aimed at then you'd surely have at least core.

 

[Belthazar]

Theres not 100 million people playing on xbox. not even close.

Do the Math.

I mean, those were the numbers Microsoft provided.

 

[DryvBy]

Gamepass core is just the old Gold. If your an xbox owner, and own nothing else, which this release of FFIV is aimed at then you'd surely have at least core.

I have nothing. I bumped down to silver over a decade ago. I don't play enough multiplayer games on there to care.

 

[clarky]

I mean, those were the numbers Microsoft provided.

That includes anyone in there eco system. Minecraft, anyone on steam, PC gamepass, streaming etc etc. If you even fart in Microsofts general direction they count you as a MAU.

 

[clarky]

I have nothing. I bumped down to silver over a decade ago. I don't play enough multiplayer games on there to care.

Exactly im guessing you game mostly on other platforms like most sensible people.

I said if you own nothing else. Its a non issue for 99% of us.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

If you don't sub to Core(gold) or Ultimate, then what are you using it for? Genuine question.

What am I using what for? Are you asking me why I own an Xbox?

Because I really wanted one, so I bought it. I use it allllll the time, and my library has hundreds of games. Just because it's not something you understand, doesn't mean it's like this weird/outrageous thing. You seem to think the only value in owning an Xbox is in having a premium subscription, and I'm telling you you're wrong. Plain and simple

 

[Papa_Wisdom]

I know this is besides the point bit the amount of people on xbox without core or ultimate must be zero.

I have neither core nor ultimate. Am I doing this wrong?

 

[Valedix]

Square wont shoot themselves in the foot

I love this gif lol

 

[LordCBH]

Pay twice a month to play FF14 on Xbox. What a stupid decision on Microsoft’s part.

 

[Skifi28]

Square wont shoot themselves in the foot

"Square just shot themselves in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Japanese culture (I'm an expert)..."

 

[clarky]

I have neither core nor ultimate. Am I doing this wrong?

If its your only means of gaming then yes.

 

[Celcius]

Why does Phil think game pass is the most important thing for MS when all it seems to be doing is killing MS?
This is DUMB lol.