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For the entirety of last gen up until now, Naughty Dog hasn't created a single new IP.

Cryio

Member
So since 2013:
Remaster Last of Us. 2 Uncharted games. Last of Us 2. Patch for Last of Us 2. "Remaster" for Uncharted 4 and Lost Legacy. Remaking Last of Us 1. Working way too long on the MP for Last of Us 2.

I can't say they've staying still.

But agreed, no new IP is underwhelming.
 

Clear

Member
For the scale/budget of their titles, ND are pretty productive. As to IP generation, the issue is that they are the originators of 2 franchises which are highly significant to the Playstation first-party line-up, so taking them off of those properties isn't easy from a quality control PoV. From a PR standpoint the new game would need to match or exceed the quality of previous entries so as not to be viewed as damaging to the brand, and frankly whoever takes over is inheriting a lot of pressure to achieve.

Transferring production to another studio also isn't ideal given that they are based on bespoke tech, meaning that they'd almost certainly need to be involved to some degree to hand over and support the new devs while they find their feet. This is basically how studios get kinda stuck with being single-property shops - success can really lock a team in.
 
Why do people only complain about this for Naughty Dog more so than others?

Loads of Devs hardly ever make new IPs.

Some basically never do!
 
I will never get the idea that ND games have no gameplay. Are they playing different versions of the game than I am?
I don’t get that either. They have gameplay, its just incredibly shallow and mindless. Which is fine depending on the rest of the experience. Works great for a game like Uncharted 1-3.
 
TLOU2 on grounded is far from shallow and mindless.
No, it really is still just as mindless and shallow as played on any other difficulty. The core mechanics and piss poor level design doesn’t change. Just the “intelligence” of the AI, which isn’t very intelligent to begin with.

If you want a game that has actual depth and strategy, play MGSV. It does everything in TLOU 1 and 2, but far better (Strictly in terms of gameplay).
 
To create AAA games takes alot of time money and resources so naturally if you have a successful formula that resonates with audiences you'll stick to that formula and milk it for all that it's worth.

New IPs are a risky, expensive business and very few studios have the talent to always pull off a successful new IP.

No one likes to see projects fail and money waisted.
 
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LiquidMetal14

hide your water-based mammals
Lemonade drive for Rockstar electricity bill and girl scout cookie crusade to help Naughty Dog pay sewer bill.
 

darkangel-212559

Dreamcast Love
Dont know what u mean by "they are not what they used to be", when they last game has the reccord for most GOTY awards ever, with more than 300 awards. Even if was not my personal GOTY, the quality was there and much above anything else they did before.

The woke game critics loving the wokest game of all time.

I'm shocked it got those reviews and awards! Shocked!
 
look at rockstar. they haven't made a new IP in who the fuck knows how long. in the xbox/ps2 era they were getting weird with stuff like The Warriors (amazing game) and Bully. Now they are just begging 14 year olds to borrow their moms credit card and buy shark cards. AAA games industry is trash.
Rockstar has also been busy creating the highest grossing entertainment property in history, they can do what they want. At least they released another game during this time.
 
During this time I remember hearing from the Sony fanbois about how Xbox's biggest names didn't have any new ip, which the same could have been said here. I'm glad some old studios like Rare and Bioware have tried something new like SoT and Anthem (under rated btw).
 

Kabelly

Member
Trans/Gay people existing isn't woke, its a reality.

get over it.
people crying over ellie's lesbianism is always hilarious to me since it was established since the first game.

People that whine about the possibility of a black James Bond or whatever always say "just make your own characters if you want diversity! none of this forced stuff" and when developers do create an original character that's not a white heterosexual it's "woke."

Funny how language changes fast on the internet too. Before it was the SJWs. Now it's the wokeists.
 

SLB1904

Member
When you are the king everyone wants your head. The thread.

People still using words like "woke" lol
It was cute a couple years ago
The ship has ⛵
 
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Trans/Gay people existing isn't woke, its a reality.

get over it.

You are absolutely correct. Nothing in this is “woke” except, maybe it could be argued that the entire story-line with Lev is written with a slacktivist bent as it would make very little sense to keep a trans person around in a post-apocalyptic world.

However, given how terrible the writing is across the board for this game, I don’t see that being the case. Its just a bad character written poorly in a terribly written sequel that should never have existed.
 

Salz01

Member
Naughty Dog game releases are like gaming events. I used to take off of work, and get so hyped for their games. It seems they changed direction and I’m more skeptical of everything they say or do now and it makes me sad.
 
Naughty Dog game releases are like gaming events. I used to take off of work, and get so hyped for their games. It seems they changed direction and I’m more skeptical of everything they say or do now and it makes me sad.

Yep. I still remember the Uncharted 3 launch. Was my first collector’s edition I picked up at launch. I was enraptured for and played for two days straight to finish everything. Then I played the MP for years after.

Then came TLOU. I was beyond excited. The next big thing after my personal favorite game of the studios’ portfolio (and yes, I understand its problems - still my favorite). Was beyond disappointed. Then Uncharted 4… then TLOU2… I just can’t bring myself to be excited for *antyhing* this studio does anymore. Each release more disappointing and mindless than the last.
 

Aenima

Member
The woke game critics loving the wokest game of all time.

I'm shocked it got those reviews and awards! Shocked!
 
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