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Forbes Contributor: “Why Sony Is About To Crush Microsoft All Over Again”
Fox Mulder
Member
This is always my least favorite time in a console generation. Everyone knows the new stuff is coming and we get a year or more of dumb speculation, rumors, and console warring.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
When did Forbes become a shill scam? What happened to journalistic integrity? Seesh....
Sony may be Japanese in parts, but PlayStation is American now. They relocated the head division to...California...a while ago.
Sony may be Japanese in parts, but PlayStation is American now. They relocated the head division to...California...a while ago.
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Handy Fake
Member
The title is total clickbait mind.
All in all a poorly written article but it does raise good points about install base and marketing strategies that can't be ignored.
All in all a poorly written article but it does raise good points about install base and marketing strategies that can't be ignored.
Humdinger
Member
Sounds about right to me.
- Bigger install base going in
- Better exclusives
- Actual exclusives to the platform
None of this is a new insight, but it certainly makes sense. Of course, we still don't know what sort of machine the PS5 will be, or what its exclusive lineup will actually look like, so those could change the game somewhat.
- Bigger install base going in
- Better exclusives
- Actual exclusives to the platform
None of this is a new insight, but it certainly makes sense. Of course, we still don't know what sort of machine the PS5 will be, or what its exclusive lineup will actually look like, so those could change the game somewhat.
Birdo
Banned
That's a matter of taste though.
I enjoyed Forza Horizon 4 more than ANY PS4 exclusive last year.
Also, there was only one PS4 game in the top 20 games sold last year. Exclusives are not a big selling point. It's one of those gaming forum myths.
Psykodad
Banned
The biggest difference is marketing of said next-gen exclusives and perceived value as a result of that.
I actually think some people on gaf are underestimating that.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I guess Curry didn't want to post this one from his favorite site(s).
interactivemonodrama
Banned
my console can beat up your console
ShadowWolf712
Member
Scott Mendelson seems to despise comic book media in general. No idea why Forbes keeps assigning it to him.
ShadowWolf712
Member
And yet there was an entire year where PSN alone made more money than all of Nintendo and Microsoft's entire gaming division.
Gosh, it's almost as if that's a completely irrelevant comparison when talking about specific divisions within said companies.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
MS should care.
Kokoloko85
Member
MS isnt dealing with a PS3. Xbox brand is never gonna have the same success it had with the 360 era.
Which released a year before the PS3, less expensive, more 3rd party approval, better equipped for online, and Ms was also taking having some of the titles more connected with Playstation for the first time. Titles like Devil May Cry, Tekken, Final Fantasy 13.
Which released a year before the PS3, less expensive, more 3rd party approval, better equipped for online, and Ms was also taking having some of the titles more connected with Playstation for the first time. Titles like Devil May Cry, Tekken, Final Fantasy 13.
They don't, they do care about people signing up for services though, and retaining the existing users for rolling into services.
The console warz are over like the mobile warz.
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Birdo
Banned
There was also an entire year when Sony went into the Black and had to sell off some of their divisions
ShadowWolf712
Member
That's into the red, not the black. And also irrelevant to the topic at hand.There was also an entire year when Sony went into the Black and had to sell off some of their divisions
Good grief...
Hobbygaming
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The gap in hardware sales won't be as big but PS5 will definitely lead worldwide
Birdo
Banned
You care about physical media but are getting an Xbox? The only gaming console this generation that requires an online connection before you can load up a game. The only console that requires an online account before you can create a user profile. You can set up a switch and a PS4 and hit skip/setup later and to my knowledge the Xbox still forces online. Your choice but I personally don’t get it.
Forza aside I agree with you. If Sony has a similarly capable box at a sufficiently similar price there is nothing MS can do. Ridiculous “prediction” I know.
Hobbygaming
has been asked to post in 'Grounded' mode.
How is selling 106 million consoles vs 50 million consoles not getting crushed?Imagine putting all that time into an article that no one will read? That person probably wasted an entire afternoon writing that garbage and no one will even open the page!
But Sony will crush Microsoft again! Somehow selling 50 million consoles on the back of Don Mattrick is getting crushed
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The gap continues to get bigger even by percentages as time goes on, this is not a new trend... nearly 10 years now. My guess without knowing price points, half sales of Xbone over first 4 years, 15-20m.
Obviously MS is in the services business now. (console warz over like the mobile warz)
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SleepDoctor
Banned
Now this is not a "paid" article by a "shill" site amirite?????
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Gotta love those Forbes contributor articles.
Klart
Member
Exactly. Just the idea that "you can play this game only on a PS5" can move a lot of PS5's. It doesn't even have to be all that better looking than the competition (but Sony will make sure their PS5 exclusive game(s) will look amazing). The fact alone that you can play the new Xbox games on your old Xbox will be a significant drawback for the initial sales of the Xbox Series X .
You'll need the PS5 to play those brand new Sony exclusives. You won't need the Xbox Series X to play those brand new MS exclusives.
Of course this is all in MS' plans. They don't really care that much about the sales of the Xbox Series X, they have their eyes on the services market.
Klart
Member
Nobody but an unsignificant number of hardcore gamers cares about the censorship issue. This will never impact sales.
If Sony plays it simple (just the next PS console with great exclusive games), they will hit the ground running.
FranXico
Member
Fuck yeah it is. And every bit as shit as the others. I wish people would stop giving Forbes attention.
Now this is not a "paid" article by a "shill" site amirite?????
FFS
Epic Sax CEO
Banned
Aside from avoiding idiotic moves and policies, I wish Sony returned to the beginning of the PS4 generation, suporting smaller developers and indies.
Playstation was good because it used to offer you everything, for all publics and tastes.
Sony need to give more highlights to small partners and revive the Japan Studios to make colorful and fun games.
Playstation was good because it used to offer you everything, for all publics and tastes.
Sony need to give more highlights to small partners and revive the Japan Studios to make colorful and fun games.
SleepDoctor
Banned
In the end, paid or whatever. They're all just opinion pieces. If you agree, good. If not who cares. But if someone else's opinion bothers you then you have a problem lol.
Farawayfromhell
Member
ROTFL
baphomet
Member
You do realize none of these people work for Forbes right? They're literally the equivalent of blog posts.
DESTROYA
Member
They probably will maybe a year or two after they release on console.
ShadowWolf712
Member
You do realize none of these people work for Forbes right? They're literally the equivalent of blog posts.
Then no idea why he punishes himself with it.
Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
Here's a good solution: Buy both consoles.
ShadowWolf712
Member
You're right, it doesn't change the point that you're comparing things that have nothing to do with each company's respective gaming divisions.
Heinrich
Banned
PS5 exclusive games will also come to PC though.
makaveli60
Member
MIGHT come, and who knows when.
Humdinger
Member
To some degree the strength of exclusives is a matter of taste, but I think most people/observers would say that PS4 has had the stronger and more diverse lineup of exclusives this generation. MS has been on the defensive about it for the past 3 or 4 years, at least, and Sony has been delivering. The sales data certainly reflect that. (I'm not referring to last year; I'm talking about the whole past generation.)
I disagree with the idea that "exclusives aren't a big selling point." Exclusives are a big part of what moves consoles, especially among the early adopters, and especially in the early years.
Don't think of it just in terms of what one exclusive game sells, because that's not how it works. Think of the whole stable of exclusives -- that's the draw, not just one game. It's not just the exclusives in the release window, either, but the ones you know are coming down the road. For instance, people will buy the PS5 because they know they'll be getting the next Horizon Zero Dawn, God of War, Spider-Man, etc., just as people will buy the XSX because they know they'll be getting the next Halo, Gears, and Forza. Exclusive libraries do move consoles. Heck, even single games can be decisive (e.g., Zelda BotW, Halo: CE).
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RaySoft
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The article is right "for now". I rly want to give MS some credit for going this route. As said in the article, it's not necessarily the best strategy for winning _THIS_ console battle, but I'm quite sure it's the right strategy to win the war further ahead. Consoles are dying soon, love it or hate it, but it's inevitable (sadly).
The future of gaming is rocking any device you might have, and having similar or better gaming experiencses as before. Agnostic hardware will be the future and when it hit's, MS will be miles ahead Sony (or any competitor) at that point.
Though it makes me sad to wave goodbye to customized hardware and such, it's clear that the cost/availability/freedom/ease will be king in the comming years, and at _that_ battlefield MS shows up more than prepared...
The future of gaming is rocking any device you might have, and having similar or better gaming experiencses as before. Agnostic hardware will be the future and when it hit's, MS will be miles ahead Sony (or any competitor) at that point.
Though it makes me sad to wave goodbye to customized hardware and such, it's clear that the cost/availability/freedom/ease will be king in the comming years, and at _that_ battlefield MS shows up more than prepared...
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Syn Marnotrawny
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Gavon West
Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
Microsoft got rolled away wet this gen. I'll state that much. But that wont happen next gen. I feel pretty confident in saying so.
TimFL
Member
They'd care if their console sold. The only way they could stay relevant was by going for the strategy they have now, good for them and for the costumers who want to play their exclusives on their PCs.
If you want a reality check you can always look at the 360/PS3 era. That's probably the arrogance we'd deal with right now if the XB1 were a success.
TLDR: Your bait is not lowkey enough.
Journey
Banned
The dude is crying?
I don’t know.
He's wiping his tears with money. Perfectly used Gif
MS will be making serious amounts of money, more so with Game Pass, yet you have people still worrying about who has sold more, like anyone cares if Dell sold more PCs than Sony Vaio's, Sony still made a shit ton of profit selling them. MS is now all about games and services, Xbox Series X will be one of many tools to get you playing, other options will be a PC running WIndows 10, Xbox One, Xbox One X, Xbox Series X and soon even streaming devices via XCloud.
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