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GhostRunner PS5/XSX/XSS DF Performance Analysis
- Thread starter Mr. PlayStation
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kiphalfton
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Hoping mods implement DJ Khaled gifs/pics/references related bans here in the future.
Werewolfgrandma
Banned
There has been many. Just Google and pick one. Reddit is full of people complaining their 2080ti is getting 80fps with nothing going on while in busier sections it's 200+
rickybooby87
Member
Interesting results for sure, in the interim, they could get aggressive with DRS with minimal to no reduction in image quality to hit those 60FPS performance targets in RT mode.
BbMajor7th
Member
Impressive port for PS5 - almost tempted to pick it up.
FrankWza
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Is that his name? I thought it was just a guy smoking. What’s his catchphrase? An additional entry or something like that? Anyone know?
retsof624
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FrankWza
Member
Obviously. That’s why he’s smoking. That ain’t nicotine
Mr. PlayStation
Member
So there’s a performance edge in favor for PS5 in this game and so be it. We’ve seen games where XSX has an edge over PS5 and vice versa.
Md Ray
Member
Must be their PCs.
Alex covered the PC version a while ago using RTX 2080 Ti, 2060, RX 6800 XT and reported no such issues except for stutters which he suspects were due to shader compilation which frequently occurs in DX12 titles. I also tried the game myself on Steam and it was pretty good at utilizing the 3070 to its maximum judging by Nsight and its power consumption.
The Ghostrunner demo is beautiful - and ray tracing adds to the spectacle
Ray traced cyberpunk ninjas - four words that sum up Ghostrunner, a new Unreal Engine 4-powered speed running assassina…
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Ezekiel_
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LOL
The very definition of click bait.
The first thing in the video title, and yet the only mention of PS5 frame rates are when they discuss the Digital Foundry analysis of the latest firmware update, which boosts, on average, 1-2 FPS in games.
A free firmware update that boosts performance, without any work from developers, is seen as a "fail"? Give me a break.
iHaunter
Member
This entire video is utter garbage. You should be embarrassed for having linked it.
Certain studios, especially small ones, are going to put more time in to one platform over another. Seems pretty obvious, I doubt these framerates are going to stay that bad for long.I haven't watched the video yet but judging by what I'm reading here I looks like a small studio developing for several different platforms, which never helps achieve optimal results on all of them.
Did XBOX get a straight port from the PC? If that is the case it didn't turn out well. The game suffers from obvious issues, it could use some extra work. Hopefully it will be fixed in future patches, but for now it seems like a clear win for PS5. When used well Series X gives excellent results, but maybe it's harder to get all the juice from it than it is from PS5. Maybe due to the tools or just due to the fact that feeding more CUs with useful work is much harder as Cerny once claimed. Or both.The only thing we know for sure is that Series X isn't performing as expected in this case.
Fake
Member
Just to joke his post.
Funny I only read about how Xbox Series X is performing better in all the new games in threads about games where PS5 perform better.
Ezekiel_
Banned
"Supplemental element" I believe.
Elbow Identity Shallow
Member
I wonder if their analysis includes yesterday's update to the game too? I can't see any mention of that on YouTube but I could have missed it.
Yesterday's download was for the new DLC but they did also fix some things although it may not have actually affected performance on any system or that 120fps activation bug on the PS5 version that they mention.
I have the PS4/PS5 versions of the game and I do get the feeling that the developer has just been a little stretched getting the console as it's been quite an "untidy" game since it first released and it still didn't quite feel polished when the current generation console versions arrived.
Hopefully they'll be able to give it a bit of a polish on all formats though, well, the newer formats at least.
Yesterday's download was for the new DLC but they did also fix some things although it may not have actually affected performance on any system or that 120fps activation bug on the PS5 version that they mention.
I have the PS4/PS5 versions of the game and I do get the feeling that the developer has just been a little stretched getting the console as it's been quite an "untidy" game since it first released and it still didn't quite feel polished when the current generation console versions arrived.
Hopefully they'll be able to give it a bit of a polish on all formats though, well, the newer formats at least.
Portugeezer
Member
Doesn't seem to be doing anything special for those framerate drops.
Strangely, it's not that unique. 12Tflop RDNA2 gets outshined by 9.2Tflop RDNA1.459 several times.
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Werewolfgrandma
Banned
Must be their PCs.
Alex covered the PC version a while ago using RTX 2080 Ti, 2060, RX 6800 XT and reported no such issues except for stutters which he suspects were due to shader compilation which frequently occurs in DX12 titles. I also tried the game myself on Steam and it was pretty good at utilizing the 3070 to its maximum judging by Nsight and its power consumption.
The Ghostrunner demo is beautiful - and ray tracing adds to the spectacle
Ray traced cyberpunk ninjas - four words that sum up Ghostrunner, a new Unreal Engine 4-powered speed running assassina…
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I got it free on gog and I'll see. Still judging from the performance my money is still on poor optimization. Hopefully a patch fixes it up.
Funny thing is that the older RBE setup of the PS5 actually give it a advantage in ROPs
Bernd Lauert
Banned
The PS5 also had additional effort invested because a port there is not just a click of a button like on Xbox. We had several games in the past where the extreme ease of porting meant that Xbox got an unoptimized Windows version of a game (see stuttering in Control for example which happens the exact same way on PC and Xbox, but not PS5). This is solely on the devs and has nothing to with the power of Xbox.
93xfan
Banned
“Series X runs much better in 120 fps mode, but can dip to mid 90s but VRR saves the day.”
Were you so anxious to troll that you decided not to read the whole thing?
Edit: looks like the notes didn’t give the full context. My mistake.
Still not happy about the trolling and antagonist comment, but I do admit my mistake. Didn’t watch the video
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Mr Moose
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Much better than the RT mode.
(Unless I am reading your comment wrong).
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Arioco
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I'm afraid you haven't watched the video. Series X runs much better in 120 fps THAN IT DOES IN THE OTHER MODES. It doesn't run better than PS5, which is basically locked 60 fps, it that's what you understood.
DarkMage619
$MSFT
Agree with you as usual. You can see the additional PS5 effort with the time taken on the Dual Sense implementation. I think lots of devs are looking at the install bases and determining that there is a better ROI if more time is taken with PS5 versions of some games. I highly doubt this title is just too demanding for an Xbox to play properly.
Mr Moose
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Why does the PS4 version run like shit then? That has the largest install base.
I'm not saying it can't/won't be patched but if we're going by install base, then the PS4 version needs "fixing" first, it even uses DRS and runs like that.
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ABrokenToy
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I came here expecting a topic on this and BOOM, there it is! Right on the front page.
sendit
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I haven't watched the video yet but judging by what I'm reading here I looks like a small studio developing for several different platforms, which never helps achieve optimal results on all of them.
Did XBOX get a straight port from the PC? If that is the case it didn't turn out well. The game suffers from obvious issues, it could use some extra work. Hopefully it will be fixed in future patches, but for now it seems like a clear win for PS5. When used well Series X gives excellent results, but maybe it's harder to get all the juice from it than it is from PS5. Maybe due to the tools or just due to the fact that feeding more CUs with useful work is much harder as Cerny once claimed. Or both.
Agreed. Its definitely the tools. Hopefully Microsoft can set the record straight with these crappy developers.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Clear PS5 win. Not much else to say. They gotta work on that Series X version.
Great Hair
Banned
Back in the demo days, this "game" would have had just enough "material, fun" for a demo ... after playing it for days, the gimmick would quickly turn boring and ppl. would have skipped it, forgotten it ever existed.
Never found this "game" to be interesting. Why did they not opt for a gun instead?
Precise shots = better final score
Alex got booted by Oliver? What a twist.
Never found this "game" to be interesting. Why did they not opt for a gun instead?
Precise shots = better final score
Alex got booted by Oliver? What a twist.
Arioco
Member
UE4 + 60 fps on PS4 is bound to run like shit.
It should NOT run like shit on Series X though, the system has both the CPU and GPU grunt to run that fine.
Anyhow I've noticed that UE is one of those Engines than often favor PS5 for some reason I don't know. This is not the only UE4 game that runs better on Sony's machine. Crash It's About Time, for instance, performs better and sometimes at a higher rez on PS5 too.
On the other hand other engines like the RE Engine usually perform better on Series X (DMC V, RE Village...).
I guess it's true that some engines favor narrow and fast and some favor wide and slow design. But even taking that into account I still think Series X is underperforming in this game. It's just too large of a difference, way larger that what we saw in Crash.
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93xfan
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My mistake. The notes were unclear
Lysandros
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Interestingly this one is also an UE4 game, it has slightly higher average resolution with DRS on PS5. One of those 'very unique' cases for sure...UE4 + 60 fps on PS4 is bound to run like shit.
It should NOT run like shit on Series X though, the system has both the CPU and GPU grunt to run that fine.
Anyhow I've noticed that UE is one of those Engines than often favor PS5 for some reason I don't know. This is not the only UE4 game that runs better on Sony's machine. Crash It's About Time, for instance, performs better and sometimes at a higher rez on PS5 too.
On the other hand other engines like the RE Engine usually perform better on Series X (DMC V, RE Village...).
I guess it's true that some engines favor narrow and fast and some favor wide and slow design. But even taking that into account I still think Series X is underperforming in this game. It's just too large of a difference, way larger that what we saw in Crash.
DenchDeckard
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that xbox version is roughhhhhhhhhh.
ps5 putting in a great performance here.
ps5 putting in a great performance here.
skneogaf
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I would really like to see digital foundry comment on some of xbox series x releases as far too many have frame drops or other graphics issues that rely on vrr.
I've read the theory that the development kit is more powerful than the release console but sure xbox will have adjusted that by now if true.
I did/do expect the series x to be able to be at least on par with the ps5 versions of every multiplatform game.
The releases aren't bad obviously but I do think too many need tweaks.
I've read the theory that the development kit is more powerful than the release console but sure xbox will have adjusted that by now if true.
I did/do expect the series x to be able to be at least on par with the ps5 versions of every multiplatform game.
The releases aren't bad obviously but I do think too many need tweaks.
Ezekiel_
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StateofMajora
Banned
I think it's clear that ps5 is the better designed machine at this point.
Edit : as in there's just more balance in its design, not that it's more powerful.
Edit : as in there's just more balance in its design, not that it's more powerful.
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nowifenolife
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maybe they havent got around to taking all that full RDNA2ools Advantage many were chess beating about.
A Most Virtuous Cat
Banned
This didn't warrant a ban, honestly.
BigLee74
Member
Guy was up to mischief in multiple threads. Let the mods do their thing.
Pretty abysmal performance on the Series S/X. I’m sure they will fix it, but to be honest they shouldn’t be releasing it like that either.
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Del_X
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Control runs better on XSX without any patch since this was publicized. Some firmware update seems to have helped.
Regardless, the performance on series consoles is unacceptable for Ghotrunner. Would still play if on Game Pass.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
No need for the comments though as this place has become more enjoyable as of late without entering threads and seeing 75% of the posts are console wars
Vognerful
Member
Might need to recheck again.
What you read before is that how most of the cases how XSX does not drop in resolution as low as PS5 in many cases (limited scenes, but you get the idea). Funny thing is we do have people who would jump and say that the game is either not optimized for PS5 or that it is running on BC (because it is cross generation game, ignoring that other cross generation games that run better on PS5).