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Goldeneye Remastered Coming soon to Xbox / Game Pass - Incl. Achievements, 4K Resolution etc
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Dee Dah Dave
Member
WTF lol 
Shit graphics and no online?!
Shit graphics and no online?!
Fredrik
Member
This looks so bad, sharper textures only makes it look worse
sankt-Antonio
:^)--?-<
They didn't even update the UI for the higher resolutions. Meh.
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01011001
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still, the way online play through these emulators works is horrible and downright unplayable in some cases.
so this is not something anyone should ever play.
Perfect Dark has online play and is also in gamepass and part of Rare Replay, so the better Rare N64 shooter already has proper online MP, nothing of value is lost here imo.
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MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
If it's on Switch, it's on PC.
we don't talk about that here....
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Banjo64
cumsessed
Can’t blame Nintendo if they demanded it, they put their faith in Rare during the N64 era.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
CamHostage
Member
Eh, sort of the "better version". It's the N64 game, but in a heavily hacked emulation shell with widescreen hacks. (They couldn't for example fix the font display since those are 2D elements.) And no online, even though that would have to be that weird me-host-you-tethered online play mode that emulators use.
It is not the nice remastered edition that Microsoft was originally planning for Xbox 360.
N64 left, 360 version right
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Eh, sort of the "better version". It's the N64 game, but in a heavily hacked emulation shell with widescreen hacks. (They couldn't for example fix the font display since those are 2D elements.) And no online, even though that would have to be that weird me-host-you-tethered online play mode that emulators use.
It is not the nice remastered edition that Microsoft was originally planning for Xbox 360.
N64 left, 360 version right
Still looks better than the Switch version, and how much you wanna bet the NSO version will have broken controls/emulation issues? NSO N64 implementation hasn't had a good track record.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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Screenshots of the cancelled 360 version for those still thinking the Xbox Series edition is using that one as the base:
Looking at this now, I'm actually getting angry the more I think about the remaster because it just comes off as that much more of a phoned-in, cash-grab port. That somehow is even more gimped on Xbox systems because of no online multiplayer. Going from the cancelled Reloaded (which seems like a genuine remake for its time would have been a strong base for a release today) to what's been announced today, is a severe downgrade.
What a failure of an opportunity to capitalize. A remake should've been the obvious answer, or at least use the 360 version as the base with upscaled textures, resolution, and online MP for both Switch and Xbox systems.
Looking at this now, I'm actually getting angry the more I think about the remaster because it just comes off as that much more of a phoned-in, cash-grab port. That somehow is even more gimped on Xbox systems because of no online multiplayer. Going from the cancelled Reloaded (which seems like a genuine remake for its time would have been a strong base for a release today) to what's been announced today, is a severe downgrade.
What a failure of an opportunity to capitalize. A remake should've been the obvious answer, or at least use the 360 version as the base with upscaled textures, resolution, and online MP for both Switch and Xbox systems.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Screenshots of the cancelled 360 version for those still thinking the Xbox Series edition is using that one as the base:
Looking at this now, I'm actually getting angry the more I think about the remaster because it just comes off as that much more of a phoned-in, cash-grab port. That somehow is even more gimped on Xbox systems because of no online multiplayer. Going from the cancelled Reloaded (which seems like a genuine remake for its time would have been a strong base for a release today) to what's been announced today, is a severe downgrade.
What a failure of an opportunity to capitalize. A remake should've been the obvious answer, or at least use the 360 version as the base with upscaled textures, resolution, and online MP for both Switch and Xbox systems.
Bruh those are screens from Goldeneye Reloaded.
Not the XBLA remastered.
Take a breather, you're coming off too strong here lol.
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MarkMe2525
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Is this the first Game Pass exclusive? Maybe I'm reaching but it ends with "coming to Game Pass" without anything else mentioned.
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GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
Glad I just got Switch online nowOnly switch version has online? There's millions of players would want to play it online, but no, of course that platform where only two people have Nintendo online, which they use for trading pokemon.
This is going to be awesome and handheld too
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
No, if you bought Rare Replay, you get this there as well. Probably will get a stand alone release like some games in Rare Replay did as well.
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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Bruh those are screens from Goldeneye Reloaded.
Not the XBLA remastered.
Take a breather, you're coming off too strong here lol.
You're right, my bad. Here are some screens from the actual cancelled version:
I definitely wouldn't have mind a remake in the vein of Reloaded tbh; clean up the textures a bit more and push for at least 1440p output and it could look like a modern high-polish AA release.
But the actual XBLA version, as you can see here, still looks pretty good and a noticeable step-up from the N64 version that both Switch & Xbox are using for this remaster. Just look at the difference in mountainside detail between the above and this:
Obvious skybox differences, too, among other things. They should've used the cancelled 360 version as the base, at the absolute very least.
MarkMe2525
Member
Ohhh ok. That makes sense, I viewed the teaser without context.
Sosokrates
Report me if I continue to console war
There are some aspects that actually look better in the original, like the glass on the chemistry glassware, other artistic choices and textures.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I think they would have 100% used it if they were allowed to. The 360 remaster was scrapped because of Nintendo and we're probably only getting this enhanced emulated re-release because they allowed it.
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GHG
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Was wondering the same thing but think it's just how they announce games these days. Quite telling.
Hari Seldon
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Never got into the original because I had a PC at the time and PC shooters were infinitely better, but if it is on PC game-pass I might check it out.
akaFullmetal
Member
That's pretty cool. Wonder how it controls with today's controllers.
BackBackPunch
Member
Goldeneye was awesome, seen from the eyes of a 15 year old in the late 90s. But it is a terrible game from just about any modern standard. The nostalgia is strong with this one, but I really don't understand why anyone gets excited about this is 2022.
Iced Arcade
Member
Multiplayer exclusiveness is weird lol.
I mean I probably wouldn't play it online but it's still fucking weird.
I mean I probably wouldn't play it online but it's still fucking weird.
01011001
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a multicultural team of v
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The butchering that emulators do to sprites, particularly HUD elements, is an abomination. How can anyone think that dialog box looks acceptable?
CamHostage
Member
But the actual XBLA version, as you can see here, still looks pretty good and a noticeable step-up from the N64 version that both Switch & Xbox are using for this remaster. Just look at the difference in mountainside detail between the above and this:
Obvious skybox differences, too, among other things. They should've used the cancelled 360 version as the base, at the absolute very least.
Xbox 360 version also let you toggle graphics modes to the "original" graphics (although it wasn't the "actual" N64 game running underneath it so it couldn't have been 100% accurate, if that's something people wanted.) It was the best of both worlds if it could have been officially released, instead this is something in between.
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Ristifer
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What modern standard is that? Shitty FPS games that tell you exactly where to go, with battle royale focuses, season passes, and microtransactions?
I'll take nostalgic Bond over those shitty games any day of the week. I hear 343 is still working on Halo Infinite to reach a modern standard, so the rest of you can look into that one when it's finished in 8 years.
nkarafo
Member
What shooters were "infinitely" better on PC in 1997?
Quake 2 was the biggest FPS at the time and there were some others like Blood and Shadow Warrior.
All good games but Goldeneye was more ambitious and complex, offering things that didn't even exist in the FPS genre. It wasn't "better" or "worse" but it was different enough.
CamHostage
Member
Well, it's just expanding the graphic and then filtering; they could have done it in a different way, but unless you actually want the graphics 1:1 (in a tiny-tiny box on your gigantic 1080p/4K screen) or exact to the pixel aspect ratio of your screen (which wouldn't be exactly proportional to how big the 3D has been expanded to fit the screen, thus it'd be either too big or too small and still pixely,) you'll get ugly graphics and usually ugly texts when you take low-res 2D and blow it up. (3D ain't so hot either, to a lot of eyes, but it's compensated for and was always designed to be stretched or repeated anyway.)
It is possible to go into the code and replace 2D elements (including fonts, which I believe were stored as individual graphics per letter in old games and even now I think a lot of fonts are bitmaps) in a game, but that's original hackwork and A. might not be allowed through MS's contract with Nintendo (they can stretch and filter the game as much as they want in the emulator, but they probably cannot alter the code,) and B. opens up a can of worms for stability and legality and quality-of-improvement (some people might not like MS's version of the HUD bullet as much as the iconic Rare original burned into people's minds and CRT TVs...)
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Dr.Morris79
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Can we just have it now, it's been long enough.
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