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GTA: The Trilogy - Definitive Edition |OT| Ah shit, here we go again
melekind
Neophyte
Not only did the content of the game not increase, but also decreased?????oh nooooo
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
I should've bought them when they were PS2 classics on PS4...I mean I have SA but should've bought Vice City too. But I was like "Ewww the 80s". Only option now is to buy it on PS3 or PS2.
Take-Two are scanning forums getting lawsuits ready for anyone who tries to mod this.
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
I bought them on ps4 and I can tell you they are ROUGH ..30 FPS and they look really bad on an oled tv
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
Well said. It's so frustrating it makes me want to scream. We have no voice as gamers now other than to not buy when yet another half assed game is released. Youtube and Twitch "influencers" as well as corrupt gaming media are a powerful force in how these games are marketed. It really can not be overstated how negative the impact their relationships with publishers and even developers has been on allowing these companies to get away with impunity some really deceptive things. Cyberpunk is a great example.
The 'power' right now is so far in favor of publishers compared to any other time I can think of in gaming. They are selling their games and raking in the profits in record numbers. They know they can get away with whatever they want to. If a game is released in a bad state or has features it was advertised with that are missing, we can complain and yell, our wishes never even get heard. The closest we have to communicating with a developer is via "influencers" and they are nothing more than another marketing branch for these companies.
I've been trying to get people to see this stuff and I've been either ignored or called a "hater" too. Rockstar is one of the worst companies now as far as I'm concerned. Just look at the latest trailer for Gta V remastered for next gen. They didn't even acknowledge that it was delayed (was originally supposed to come out now) and they're not even trying to take advantage or the new systems yet still charging full price.
GtaV and RDR2, the two biggest games out there are never getting a patch for ps5/x to improve resolution and framerate. Gamers just accept that Rockstar doesn't update their games because "they'll release a remaster in a couple years". It's crazy to me that there's no push back against them for stuff like that.
01011001
Banned
the more I see from this remaster the more I don't even wanna play it... even tho San Andreas is in Gamepass... like... this has to be the worst version of the game by far.
the graphics are a joke, the missing music is a joke... all of it looks like a fan made shitty "Fan recreates [GAME X] in Unreal Engine 4" kinda thing and I actually hope there was not a single actual professional graphics artist in this dev team, and if there were, they should never be hired as one ever again
the graphics are a joke, the missing music is a joke... all of it looks like a fan made shitty "Fan recreates [GAME X] in Unreal Engine 4" kinda thing and I actually hope there was not a single actual professional graphics artist in this dev team, and if there were, they should never be hired as one ever again
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EDMIX
Member
Well...this is more of a remake then a simply port to really put it in "PS2 game" area. This simply isn't a remaster like we saw with the last ports that just uped the resolution and frame and a few assets.
This is put in a different engine, different character models and GTAV controls, so enough is done here were I just don't see this as a PS2 remaster.
Too much is done to put it in that ball park, this isn't like their last remaster or those awful AC1 and 2 remasters lol
Soodanim
Gold Member
Based on what I’ve seen, the games still have bugs present in the originals like falling through the ground at 60fps. Things like that are suggesting that it’s still the old framework, so combining that with the “Modified PS2” look of them it’s looking like they may well just be remasters and not remakes. Shit ones, at that.
They definitely didn’t start from the ground up with these, more would have gone right. If they genuinely did, someone’s getting fired.
Lukaku's First Touch
Member
Any news on the wokening of the games?
01011001
Banned
the PS4 versions also miss all the songs that are missing in every recent release tho.
the only way to have complete and good versions is if you have the original PS2, Xbox or PC versions.
BUT very late PS2 reprints ALSO had music missing! so not every PS2 release is the complete package either.
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Mr Branding
Member
Everything seems to still be there from what I gather. ExCEpt ThaT ConFEdEratE FlaG!!!
I can't even tell if I'm on Gaf or Reddit at this point since all the posts feel the same. Same nitpicky deformed npc shots, same memes, come on guys. Just looking at the gameplay released so far this looks miles better than the super outdated ps2 games, can't wait to jump in.
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01011001
Banned
the missing music alone makes this a bad release. and the graphics are terrible in many ways not only the NPCs, but the NPCs do look like dogshit, there's no defending that.
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Soodanim
Gold Member
There’s plenty of that. Shooting feels no better than before and most of the gameplay is the same, except that you can restart missions from a menu prompt and the game glitches to fuck all over the trilogy because it’s a very buggy remaster that didn’t bother fixing things they should have fixed.
nightmare-slain
Member
Guess I’ll stick to my ps2 discs. Can’t beat them. Shame on Rockstar for allowing this. People need to stop praising them and letting them away with shit. 8 years with no new GTA game except this trash.
I can’t even get excited for GTA VI now. Rockstar are a totally different company now. They don’t care about making quality games…they just want to milk players dry.
I can’t even get excited for GTA VI now. Rockstar are a totally different company now. They don’t care about making quality games…they just want to milk players dry.
DonJorginho
Banned
Made in Dreams™
waquzy
Member
Rockstar didn’t have anything to do with this remaster, it was done by a company called Grove Street Games.
GymWolf
Gold Member
Nice way to sugar coat their shitty effortHmmmm
“The thing that drew people to these titles early on was the very specific way that they felt," says Rosado. "So when it comes to redoing them, you hit a crossroads. You can either try and rebuild them and improve them, and in doing so that means rescripting everything and adding new physics. Or you acknowledge that these games had a very secret sauce that people fell in love with, and it would be a fool's errand to try and replicate every single element—the good bits and the frustrating bits. So one of the first choices we made for these remasters was to leave them intact."
Interview: Rockstar On Remastering Its Classic 3D GTA Games For A New Generation
A deep dive into the Grand Theft Auto 3, Vice City, and San Andreas remasters with Rockstar producer Rich Rosado.www.thegamer.com
nightmare-slain
Member
I know. That’s why I said shame on Rockstar for allowing this. Grove Street Games are a mobile studio. The only experience they have with consoles is the ps3/360 version of San Andreas. now they have to make three games for pc, PS4, ps5, Xbox one, series, switch, iOS and android. They are out their depth.
rockstar might only be publishing but they shouldn’t have allowed it to release in this state. Someone at rockstar either didn’t bother checking if it was ready or thought yeah this is good enough!
kiphalfton
Gold Member
What's up with the trees here:
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waquzy
Member
So then you shouldn’t be worried about GTA VI, Rockstar will be developing that and they are still second to none. No other developer comes close..,
JonSnowball
Gold Member
I'm playing the original Vice City on PC and it looks pretty good considering its age. In fact, Rockstars trailer "faked" the before graphics with some bizarrely low LOD shots to make the original titles look crappier. The games don't even look that bad on PS2.
Here's a screenshot of Vice City running on PC:
Here's a shot of the "original" Vice City from Rockstars trailer:
HerjansEagleFeeder
Gold Member
Sorry if this has been asked before, but will there be a physical edition of this for the PS5?
waquzy
Member
Yes it comes out next month
01011001
Banned
no, only PS4, no PS5 version
01011001
Banned
I'm playing the original Vice City on PC and it looks pretty good considering its age. In fact, Rockstars trailer "faked" the before graphics with some bizarrely low LOD shots to make the original titles look crappier. The games don't even look that bad on PS2.
Here's a screenshot of Vice City running on PC:
Here's a shot of the "original" Vice City from Rockstars trailer:
not to mention that the Xbox version improved even on that original PC version with higher quality models for cars and characters, as well as better textures and effects (reflections on cars etc.)
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bargeparty
Member
I'm playing the original Vice City on PC and it looks pretty good considering its age. In fact, Rockstars trailer "faked" the before graphics with some bizarrely low LOD shots to make the original titles look crappier. The games don't even look that bad on PS2.
Here's a screenshot of Vice City running on PC:
Here's a shot of the "original" Vice City from Rockstars trailer:
truly a thing to behold here. you talk about their fake comparison, then show the exact shot without any comparison. you mention the ps2 version but don't provide anything, yet you provide a pc screenshot from an entirely different viewpoint with a (lets be honest) unverified pc screenshot.
just_like_that
Member
the price is not worth full but im having a good time with it. one thing blew me away was how far you could see now. still fun like the original except the framerate is so much better. buy it on sale lol
waquzy
Member
Wrong, for PS5 as well.
cormack12
Gold Member
That second shot has been going round for a while. The original shows the full scene, and this bit is cropped from where the draw/render distance is out of bounds that's why it looks so bad. Imagine it's widescreen and they've cropped the left side of the image out (where the draw distance is in bounds)
01011001
Banned
link?
waquzy
Member
I stand corrected, you were right. It’s 2022
MrTroubleMaker
Gold Member
BigLee74
Member
Are people forgetting how awful the original games looked? There is only so much polishing you can do without scrapping everything and starting again (something that was never gonna happen).
As long as they look and run better than the originals, and retain the fun, them I’m up for another replay.
As long as they look and run better than the originals, and retain the fun, them I’m up for another replay.
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Banjo64
cumsessed
I know
I do own the soundtrack box sets for Vice and San though, so at least there’s that.
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
Hey, I paid £54.99 for this, that makes it the best games ever!Nice way to sugar coat their shitty effort
...Someone needs to take my wallet away for fuck sake, it's getting dangerous now.
GymWolf
Gold Member
A man want what a man want, never excuse for buying what makes you happy.
xrnzaaas
Member
The modders have already done a much better job of improving the graphics in the past, but even if you ignore that there's a ton of things working against the remasters (from what I've seen so far, I won't be giving Rockstar my money):
- Various bugs from previous versions have been retained, plus the remasters weren't properly tested and many people are reporting the games crashing.
- The art style choices are at least questionable, in some cases the models actually look worse than the originals despite being more detailed.
- The remasters don't use the extra power of the new PC's & consoles and the traffic & pedestrian numbers are still very low.
- The games struggling with performance even on next-gen consoles is a complete joke.
- Some important songs from the soundtrack are still missing and Rockstar should've at least replaced them with other songs to maintain the overall number of songs for each radio station.
waquzy
Member
Someone needs to take you to the mental asylum if you paid £55 for this garbage.
waquzy
Member
When everyone has bought the game and when it’s too late to realise it’s shite!!
nowhat
Member
Nope. Review embargo being lifted when the game is released can be a red flag (although not always, take Kena for example), but review codes being sent out after the game has been released certainly is.
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
I thought, thought... Rockstar might have taken a bit more care on the game, this thread made me think I might have made an error
Screw it, you only live once!
Hell, if any existed anymore i'd gladly walk in, might give me a break from the one we live in currently