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Help me build a decent gaming PC for around $2,000 (including monitor, keyboard, etc)
- Thread starter Neiteio
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Threw this together really quick. You could go with a i5 and save $100 same thing with the OS. As noted earlier in the thread, you can get windows pretty cheap on reddit.
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CCgnK8
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CCgnK8/by_merchant/
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($321.75 @ OutletPC)
Edit - CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($74.69 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-PRO(Wi-Fi ac) ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($203.29 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($116.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($194.29 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($124.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE 3X Video Card ($333.94 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case ($129.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: AOC G2460PQU 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($249.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Corsair K70 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech G502 Wired Optical Mouse ($64.99 @ Micro Center)
Speakers: Cyber Acoustics CA-2002 6W 2ch Speakers ($9.88 @ Amazon)
Total: $2139.64
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CCgnK8
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CCgnK8/by_merchant/
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($321.75 @ OutletPC)
Edit - CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($74.69 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-PRO(Wi-Fi ac) ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($203.29 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($116.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($194.29 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($124.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE 3X Video Card ($333.94 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case ($129.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: AOC G2460PQU 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($249.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Corsair K70 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech G502 Wired Optical Mouse ($64.99 @ Micro Center)
Speakers: Cyber Acoustics CA-2002 6W 2ch Speakers ($9.88 @ Amazon)
Total: $2139.64
That reminds me, I forgot to add a cpu cooler. Corrected.
no such thing as overkill
things to not cheap out on:
PSU
Motherboard
Cooling
It's like assembling legos nowadays, it doesn't take a lot of time (even for a newcomer, you can be finished in an hour if you watch a video or two of people doing it beforehand) and there's not much room for mistake either. It's very straightforward in most cases. You'll be spending a lot more time choosing your parts comparatively.
And yeah Neiteio $2000 is overkill, you should head to the "I need a new PC thread", lots of valuable advice there and a lot of knowledgeable people that can help you build a great computer. Since you asked for Bioshock Infinite, I don't really know about that particular game but I am pretty sure you can play it at gorgeous settings with a <$1k build.
Don't save $500 for Steam sales...you won't have the time to play 90% of the games. Trust me on this. I would spend the full 2k on the PC, accessories, and perhaps up to 2 monitors with high refresh rates (120+ Hz) if you have the desk space (it's well worth it).
I would stick to 1080p monitors/gaming but that's just me. I'd rather be maxing out games for years to come at that res with sky high FPS. Current hardware works alright at higher resolutions but it's so much better at 1080p IMO.
Get a mouse with a good sensor if you're going to play any FPS multi-player semi-seriously. I have a Zowie FK1 for this. If you're gonna play an MMO you might want to cop a multi-button mouse like the Naga. I have one, too. Barring either of these cases you won't really need a gaming mouse IMO. Any cheap one with no obvious flaws will do. As for keyboards, get a regular one for cheap or a nice mechanical one for competitive multi-player games.
I would stick to 1080p monitors/gaming but that's just me. I'd rather be maxing out games for years to come at that res with sky high FPS. Current hardware works alright at higher resolutions but it's so much better at 1080p IMO.
Get a mouse with a good sensor if you're going to play any FPS multi-player semi-seriously. I have a Zowie FK1 for this. If you're gonna play an MMO you might want to cop a multi-button mouse like the Naga. I have one, too. Barring either of these cases you won't really need a gaming mouse IMO. Any cheap one with no obvious flaws will do. As for keyboards, get a regular one for cheap or a nice mechanical one for competitive multi-player games.
knightfolk
Member
Polioliolio
Member
No sir... But if I did, it seems I'd be considerably poorer.
Ignorant, yet satisfied, I suppose.
I really appreciate this list. Not to push my luck, but what's the best combination you could make if everything came out to $1,500?
Metal Gear?!
Member
Why would you ever choose a Crucial SSD?
- Ditch the monitor or switch to a non EXTREME 144hz GAMING MONITOR
- Halve the ram to 8gb
- Change the CPU to an i5
- Change the CPU cooler to a Cryorig H7 or Hyper 212
- Smaller SSD
- Smaller, non-black HD, like a 1TB Blue
- Change motherboard to a non EXTREME GAMER BUILT IN WIFI BOARD like the ASRock H97 Anniversary
- Change the case to a Corsair SPEC-02
- Change PSU to something that's not a ridiculous 750W monster, such as the Corsair CSM 550W (on sale at newegg atm)
- Ditch the speakers
knightfolk
Member
Reworked for 1500 price point. Was able to still have a 144hz Monitor, but had to drop the SSD. and move things down to an i5. Also added a Mobo that has built in wireless to shave some cost there as well.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper D92 54.8 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler ($38.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-Pro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($103.74 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($74.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital WD SE 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($177.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card ($324.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H21 ATX Mid Tower Case ($28.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Fractal Design Integra R2 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Directron)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($12.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: AOC G2460PQU 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($249.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard ($68.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Mouse: Logitech G700s Wireless Laser Mouse ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1490.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-02-06 20:27 EST-0500
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper D92 54.8 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler ($38.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-Pro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($103.74 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($74.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital WD SE 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($177.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card ($324.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H21 ATX Mid Tower Case ($28.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Fractal Design Integra R2 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Directron)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($12.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: AOC G2460PQU 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($249.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard ($68.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Mouse: Logitech G700s Wireless Laser Mouse ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1490.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-02-06 20:27 EST-0500
YianGaruga
Banned
No. Just no.
Common, guys. He's got a 2,000 budget. And you're picking up gargantuan tower cases and 24 inch monitors for him?
We need to get you into a mini ITX case and a 27" ips panel stat!
Any objections to this?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yNh799
We need to get you into a mini ITX case and a 27" ips panel stat!
Any objections to this?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yNh799
-MD-
Member
$1000 will build a beastly PC.
I know right. Im running 16GB of memory and an i5 3570K and when I enter a GAF page full of gifs on chrome it freezes up.
Azure Dream
Member
Lots of people practically laughing you off. I will say it's not entirely stress-free. Messing with the CPU the first time or two is going to cause your heart to skip a few beats. Sometimes cases come without a lot of instructions on where to hook up wires for their built-in ports and features, or things don't fit QUITE right with each other...
That being said, as long as you read up a bit on it, buy the right things, work in a safe environment for it, etc, things should go pretty well. Maybe not without a hitch, but probably only a very small hitch.
Oh god no! SSD for the OS is pretty much a generational jump in computing.
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
I don't know. They could match the price ($799) and still easily be the more attractive option. Not only does it have an IPS panel, but it will feature HDMI and DVI outputs, as well, so it can do more than just be a G-Sync monitor.
The only thing the ASUS has it beat on is response time by 3ms.
Not only that, but the ASUS ROG Swift has earned a reputation of being very unreliable in terms of hardware problems and ASUS has poor customer service.
It's glorious. It truly is. I'm still in the honeymoon period with my monitor, but there's no way I could go back when it comes to PC gaming. It's makes such a huge difference in how smooth games play. Definitely stay ignorant unless you have the money to spare, because there's no doubt you'll have to have one once you experience it.
Alright, couldn't quite get it down to $1500, but you should be able to save on the windows license. Also note that if you don't care about mechanical keyboard or a gaming mouse just drop them for something cheaper. I also use the same Kingston SSD in my HTPC and it works great. One more thing, the motherboard might need a bios update for that CPU. Edit - added different motherboard to the build. There are cheaper Mini ITX Z97 motherboard but for a full size ATX board with wifi will cost a bit more.
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/fZTMrH
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/fZTMrH/by_merchant/
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($25.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-Pro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($103.74 @ Newegg) Edit - Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Extreme6/ac ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($116.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($39.99 @ Best Buy)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE 3X Video Card ($333.94 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: AOC G2460PQU 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($249.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Corsair K70 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech G502 Wired Optical Mouse ($64.99 @ Micro Center)
Total: $1580.50 Edit - Alt motherboard Total: $1660.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
What's wrong with Crucial? Good price per GB and decent performance.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
Dude, I built a gaming PC for $750 that can play BioShock Infinite on highest settings. Here's my build:
For $2,000 you can probably build something beastly.
SneakyStephan
Banned
If you're going to spend that much money then please spend some on a good monitor....
what's the point of a tiny case (only limits what gpu you can fit now and when you upgrade, costs more for no good reason, harder to keep cool and quiet)
ips monitors are not good for gaming
I'm just going to recommend parts, not specific OEMs for those parts.
intel 4790k (~320$)
cpu cooler (can't help you there for what to pick) (~30$)
8gb ddr3 1600 ram (~70$)
z97 mobo (asus or gigabyte) (~90$)
1-2TB WD blue hdd (~40-50$)
256GB ssd (~120$)
LG 24GM77-B monitor for mid budget (~300$), I heard good things about the asus rog swift monitor but it's almost offensive how expensive it is especially for a TN panel
gtx 970 false advertising edition (simply because a 980 costs way too much) (~350$)
case: fractal r4 seems good from reviews and pictures and it's not super pricy (~70$)
a 600W power supply from a respectable brand (~60$)
total ~1480$
The reason I picked those is for price/performance in the higher end, without any bottlenecks or compromises. Beyond this any extra performance is going to come at a huge premium price (gtx980 costs like 80 percent more for 20 percent more performance and a functional vram pool, the 6-8 core intel extremes cost 2-3x as much, rog swift costs like 800 fucking dollars and in the end it is still a TN panel, higher end mobos are for enthusiast overclockers and for people who need features you'll never ever use, the return on investement in performance is pretty much zero there)
If you want to save money get a 4690k instead of the 4790k and drop the SSD.
It's really hard to recommend a 2000 dollar pc or scale up or down the budget because scaling up the performance/dollar drops off a cliff and there simply isn't much choice when it comes to cpus (amd is out of the question for gaming and anything less than an i5 is going to be a serious compromise (you'll be resigning yourself to 30 fps in manyopen world games and a bunch of future games, and that is not what I'd build a pc for personally...)
)
If you want a nice gaming pc these days then that i5+z97 mobo+8GB ddr3+600w psu+western digital blue hdd are already set in stone as the only minimum option/cost.
PC gaming entry cost got WAY more expensive in the last few years to enjoy the same relative performance you would have 5 years ago.
Add a keyboard (be weary of anything that says gaming on it, it's almost always code for 'super overpriced low build quality membrane keyboard') and a mouse and you're good to go.
If you need speakers I would highly recommend a decent pair of headphones (NOT a headset, those are made to break!) and a clip on microphone if you need one.
Imo keep the rest of your money aside to upgrade the gpu when volta is here instead of spending it on marginally better performance now, you can't future proof a pc a 20 percent faster gpu is going to be just as outdated in 4 years)
Normally I'd tell you to spend more than 300 on a monitor as it's supposed to be a ten year investement that has a huge impact on your gaming, but it's all shitty lcd panels in the end... just buy one like the one I suggested that is the least flawed/compromised while still having an affordable price.
yes, it's bad advice
what's the point of a tiny case (only limits what gpu you can fit now and when you upgrade, costs more for no good reason, harder to keep cool and quiet)
ips monitors are not good for gaming
I'm just going to recommend parts, not specific OEMs for those parts.
intel 4790k (~320$)
cpu cooler (can't help you there for what to pick) (~30$)
8gb ddr3 1600 ram (~70$)
z97 mobo (asus or gigabyte) (~90$)
1-2TB WD blue hdd (~40-50$)
256GB ssd (~120$)
LG 24GM77-B monitor for mid budget (~300$), I heard good things about the asus rog swift monitor but it's almost offensive how expensive it is especially for a TN panel
gtx 970 false advertising edition (simply because a 980 costs way too much) (~350$)
case: fractal r4 seems good from reviews and pictures and it's not super pricy (~70$)
a 600W power supply from a respectable brand (~60$)
total ~1480$
The reason I picked those is for price/performance in the higher end, without any bottlenecks or compromises. Beyond this any extra performance is going to come at a huge premium price (gtx980 costs like 80 percent more for 20 percent more performance and a functional vram pool, the 6-8 core intel extremes cost 2-3x as much, rog swift costs like 800 fucking dollars and in the end it is still a TN panel, higher end mobos are for enthusiast overclockers and for people who need features you'll never ever use, the return on investement in performance is pretty much zero there)
If you want to save money get a 4690k instead of the 4790k and drop the SSD.
It's really hard to recommend a 2000 dollar pc or scale up or down the budget because scaling up the performance/dollar drops off a cliff and there simply isn't much choice when it comes to cpus (amd is out of the question for gaming and anything less than an i5 is going to be a serious compromise (you'll be resigning yourself to 30 fps in manyopen world games and a bunch of future games, and that is not what I'd build a pc for personally...)
)
If you want a nice gaming pc these days then that i5+z97 mobo+8GB ddr3+600w psu+western digital blue hdd are already set in stone as the only minimum option/cost.
PC gaming entry cost got WAY more expensive in the last few years to enjoy the same relative performance you would have 5 years ago.
Add a keyboard (be weary of anything that says gaming on it, it's almost always code for 'super overpriced low build quality membrane keyboard') and a mouse and you're good to go.
If you need speakers I would highly recommend a decent pair of headphones (NOT a headset, those are made to break!) and a clip on microphone if you need one.
Imo keep the rest of your money aside to upgrade the gpu when volta is here instead of spending it on marginally better performance now, you can't future proof a pc a 20 percent faster gpu is going to be just as outdated in 4 years)
Normally I'd tell you to spend more than 300 on a monitor as it's supposed to be a ten year investement that has a huge impact on your gaming, but it's all shitty lcd panels in the end... just buy one like the one I suggested that is the least flawed/compromised while still having an affordable price.
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
For real. Crucial is damn good. MX100, M500 are both great.
knightfolk
Member
An SSD can always be added after the fact, and should little impact on gaming performance. OP asked for a sub 1500 build so compromises have to be made at least in the short term. I would never think of going without an ssd, but I have disposable income and prices points have never been an issue.
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
Not sure if this will be any help, but here are the PC parts I've purchased within the last year or so as upgrades to my i5 2500k with 16GB DDR3 1600mhz RAM machine that I built in Spring or so of 2011.
Corsair Obsidian Series 750D Performance Full Tower Case -- $150
BenQ XL2420G G-Sync Monitor -- $540
EVGA EVGA GTX 970 ACX 1.0 Superclocked -- $350
SteelSeries 6Gv2 Mechanical Gaming Keyboard -- $90
SteelSeries Sensei Laser Gaming Mouse -- $45
Logitech Wireless Gaming Headset G930 -- $100
Crucial M550 512GB SSD -- $250
Comes out to $1525 before tax.
It's all great stuff, in my opinion, but if you had to add in a good power supply, motherboard, processor, and 16GB + of RAM, you'd probably go a bit above your budget. I can't recommend the G-Sync monitor enough, though, even if it is a bit pricey.
Corsair Obsidian Series 750D Performance Full Tower Case -- $150
BenQ XL2420G G-Sync Monitor -- $540
EVGA EVGA GTX 970 ACX 1.0 Superclocked -- $350
SteelSeries 6Gv2 Mechanical Gaming Keyboard -- $90
SteelSeries Sensei Laser Gaming Mouse -- $45
Logitech Wireless Gaming Headset G930 -- $100
Crucial M550 512GB SSD -- $250
Comes out to $1525 before tax.
It's all great stuff, in my opinion, but if you had to add in a good power supply, motherboard, processor, and 16GB + of RAM, you'd probably go a bit above your budget. I can't recommend the G-Sync monitor enough, though, even if it is a bit pricey.
I would personally never recommend a build without an SSD as well, unless it was a super budget build or something like that. A $1500 build damn well better have a SSD imo.
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, SSD is just essential for a pleasant computing experience.
Never, ever drop the SSD at a >$1000 price point. You can go with a 256 GB one, but your OS install needs to be on a SSD.
Also, while you shouldn't cheap out on the mainboard, don't overpay on it either. Nothing with a Z97 chipset is bad.
In terms of more specific advice I mostly agree with what SneakyStephan posted above. There's a point up to which it makes sense to go from a price/perf perspective (which is roughly the 970 currently) and everything beyond that just drops off a cliff in value.
Also, while you shouldn't cheap out on the mainboard, don't overpay on it either. Nothing with a Z97 chipset is bad.
In terms of more specific advice I mostly agree with what SneakyStephan posted above. There's a point up to which it makes sense to go from a price/perf perspective (which is roughly the 970 currently) and everything beyond that just drops off a cliff in value.
Boombox On
Member
Aesthetics. Not everyone wants a PC taller than the monitor they put it next to. Also, the case in the build you quoted had a a 13" maximum length; you don't even need to make a conscious effort to find a top-of-the-line GPU smaller than that.
SneakyStephan
Banned
Priorities, please
aesthetics that come at the cost of noise (comfort) and digging into your budget (in the linked itx build 40 bucks premium on the motherboard and 20 on the case, money that should be going into the monitor he'll be looking at for hours at a time, not the case next to his feet or next to his monitor )
He has a limited budget, don't waste it on fluff
This thread is for suggesting OP a build based on the requirements he posted, not to project your own requirements ontop of them just to justify a purchase you have made yourself. (for which there should be no need to begin with)
mr stroke
Member
Not really
Compsiox
Banned
? I guess it comes down to your definition of "beastly" but still 1000 bucks will absolutely get you a great gaming PC.
Compsiox
Banned
Not really by very modern standards anyway. I like 80+ fps on Dying Light, Far Cry 4, and Assassins Creed Unity on Ultra.
SneakyStephan
Banned
OP's budget includes needing a monitor which ups the cost significantly, 1000 bucks gets you a pretty nice pc still (it's a lot of money too)
But yeah pc hardware (specifically gpus, ram and cpus, hdds have thankfully returned to normal prices) got way more expensive than they were just a few years ago.
That tiny case fits a GTX 980. GPU's aren't getting bgigger, they are getting smaller so he should be fine for the forseeable future.
IPS monitors are excellent for gaming - so long as you get one with decent latency. And there are out there. Never will use a tn panel ever again. Color shift is just horrendous.
Bioshock Infinite is very very well optimized, you could easily have a 700/800$ build running it on highest settings at 60fps.
mr stroke
Member
I have built and used gaming PCs for years, I don't know where some of you guys are getting "beast" PCs for $1000?
$1000 will buy you a low to average PC(though still miles ahead of consoles)
a "beast" PC should be able to run a 4k or 1440p 144hz monitor at 60fps+, to do that you need multiple GPUs which alone are more than $1000
SneakyStephan
Banned
They're terrible, people are spending 800 euros to play on a monitor at 120 hz with terrible brightness because they're using a frankenstein black frame insertion backlight dimming bandaid to fix the motion quality for their gaming.
You think they put up with that price and the shitty compromises for the lols?
Color shift is horrendous, what is way more horrendous is the motion resolution of an IPS panel.
IPS panel displaying static image vs IPS panel displaying panning scene in movie or in a game (where you are panning the camera at high speed 99 percent of the time)
I care about colors and viewing angles, but there is NO point if it all turns into a garbled mess of blur once you move the image.
So the pixels are the correct color for a brief moment before they go through their slow transition phase again, showing SHIT during that 90 percent of time and that persists through the next several frames
Wooptie doo!
This is not acceptable in general, and definitely not acceptable when you are trying to react to what is changing on your screen while gaming.
IPS are useful for browsing, doing work and creating content, NOT for gaming
I'm not sure there's a PC that exists that could maintain 80+ fps in ACU =P
You have to understand that the vast majority of PC gamers still target 60fps 1080p. A $1000 build can do that without breaking a sweat in most modern games.
Compsiox
Banned
My computer does with 2 970s. Also 60fps for games releasing right now will cost you more than $1000.
Then lower settings. I know I know blasphemy but for games that are that demanding you shouldn't run them at ultra, but for the vast majority of games you can get 1080p 60fps quite easily with a good mid range GPU, heck the R9 290 was on sale for just $220 throw that into a good build and you got a PC that qualifies as "beastly" in my mind.
Compsiox
Banned
We are not talking about adding on to a "sweet" build. We are talking about the cost of building one from scratch.
SneakyStephan
Banned
Yet I bet you have an i5 that is in the 800 dollar recommended build in the pc thread.
You must be really new to pc gaming if you think 60 fps on max settings was ever a guarantee in pc gaming regardless of how much you spent.
Let me guess you bought a first gaming pc sometime during the ps360 generation where multiplat games were being designed for consoles that had a fraction of the performance of even a low end gaming PC
PC games used to always have settings that were meant for future hardware, this parity pandering shit is a new phenomenon.
You're going to be pretty bummed out when star citizen runs at <30 fps maxed out on your rig when it comes out.
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
The only downside to G-Sync is that 60 fps is no longer the goal. It's still good, but now that you don't have to care about locking your frame rate, it's all about getting 100+ fps if you can.
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HB2xP6
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HB2xP6/by_merchant/
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($25.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team Xtreem Dark Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($60.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M550 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($39.99 @ Best Buy)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 290 4GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($238.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($62.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer G227HQLbi 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Logitech K120 Wired Standard Keyboard ($7.99 @ NCIX US)
Mouse: Logitech B100 Wired Optical Mouse ($5.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $997.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Went cheap on the monitor, keyboard, and mouse. left out Windows (You can get a key for like $15 on reddit)
Compsiox
Banned
I always hit 60fps and higher. My PC cost $2100 and I built it myself. I got the cheapest prices from different sites. What the actual fuck are you going off here? $800 PC? What?
I run Star Citizen around 100fps in Command Arena or whatever its called.
SneakyStephan
Banned
Yes your current pc
Did you own a pc in 2000? in 1997? in 2004?
You bought a new gpu, it would be far faster than the previous gpus (way bigger jumps than we get today) and before you had a chance to plug it into the agp port there was already a handful of games out there that made you wish you had a 4x better gpu.
"ultra settings' is a meaningless metric as it can mean any variety of settings
ultra on dying light means LOD settings that will crush modern hardware, ultra in crysis meant settings meant for pcs from 2009, in 2007, ultra in metro meant settings for 2016 hardware in 2010. Meanwhile ultra on DMC means 300 fps on an i3 and a gtx 680...
Ultra settings are not something you can quantify.
Any developer can (and should) let you put the dials to 11, way past the reasonable point for performance/visuals on current hardware)
I'm not going to count ac unity in this as it's a shit unfinished game it shouldn't be dignified at all
Compsiox
Banned
But I understand there were huge jumps back in the day.
I mean today!
2 970s superclocked powers every game I have played at 80+ fps. No regrets. Including Dying Light.
When jumps come I just upgrade? Like lol?
TheSlySoul
Member
You are going to have a beast for that cost. Mine is pretty powerful and less than half that.
I'm sorry that's bullshit. Not all gaming is sub-ms twitch action gaming.
You have to understand that I'm not just putting this out there without being completely aware of all the options. I have a 144 Hz TN G-sync monitor... in its box in my closet, because I can't stand the IQ.
Of course, VA is much preferable to IPS in IQ for media consumption and gaming, but both beat TN by miles.