MayauMiao
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Give monolith soft the same hardware as PS5 and they would absolutely stomp the shit out of this luminous engine team.
2023 on PS5
2015 on Cemu
Yikes. Did they use the Slipspace Engine?
Give monolith soft the same hardware as PS5 and they would absolutely stomp the shit out of this luminous engine team.
2023 on PS5
2015 on Cemu
The last time we had a visually spectacular game was RDR2. And that ran on 1.5TF consoles just fine. Demon's Souls also looks spectacular and runs great on PS5. As does Horizon. There is nothing entitled to mock games with extremely outdated visuals requiring top of the line hardware. We've seen countless devs already waste great performance on development shortcuts/incompetence. SeriesX/PS5 are absolutely not low-end hardware by any stretch either. With your mentality, games like Gotham Knights are a user issue, not dev one.When games come out looking spectacular and they are difficult to run on low end-average hardware (which is what consoles are) then you hear cries of "unoptimised" from the rooftops.
Please understand, this is generation entitled.
why isn't this illegal?!!!!!!
how many times we gonna get fucked over like this before the sheep actually wake up?
OP I assume you're younger.
Today a lot of games look great, but us older gamers are forged in pessimism. Bullshots were a fucking epidemic 20 years ago, nothing like it is today. But we're still sour, so we're less likely to be disappointed like you.
Bullshots were an epidemic since even before 20 years ago. And it was worse then as the bullshots were on the back of the box you were buying.
How they managed to get away with that, i still wonder.
luminous engine is ass.
i think SE is going to sunset it, if forspoken performs badly in sales (which is very likely imo).Shame. Because there is a lot of potential there. They have spent so much money on this fucking engine... you think they should sunset it?
I mean, there comes a time and circumstance when these things should be, but, I dunno... I have seen a lot of impressive shit with this engine, yet... there are still many problems with games that use it as their backbone.
Probably... Been playing through FFXV Royal Edition and have been thoroughly impressed with the 4k presentation. Keeping at 60 FPS in all areas. It is an amazing looking game in a lot of places. But, that is with DLSS and not even 2.0, at that. Still.... I have a soft spot for this game.i think SE is going to sunset it, if forspoken performs badly in sales (which is very likely imo).
As long as the game is fun, whatever.
Which is not the case for this game either.
I just checked to see what gaming engine it uses and apparently it's the same engine that Final fantasy 15 used.
So, at the end, the game is just an upscaled PS4 game.
That demo is from 11 years ago, before the PS4 was even announced, and looks better than anything Square has released since then. Back then people actually thought this would be the level of visual fidelity we could expect from PS4/XBoxOne lol.
OP I assume you're younger.
Today a lot of games look great, but us older gamers are forged in pessimism. Bullshots were a fucking epidemic 20 years ago, nothing like it is today. But we're still sour, so we're less likely to be disappointed like you.
Yup. Bullshots have been around since the first game system in the 70s. Back then magazine ads or back of the box art weren't even digital bullshots from an alpha build. They were fake renditions an artist drew at head office. At least back then electronics and gaming were in it's infancy, so expecting up to date professional processes was probably not realistic at the time with cardboard boxes and gaming offices with 12 people working there.Bullshots were an epidemic since even before 20 years ago. And it was worse then as the bullshots were on the back of the box you were buying.
How they managed to get away with that, i still wonder.
Funnily enough, the gameplay footage from the reveal of FF15 back in 2013 actually looks better than Forspoken; in fact, that footage still looks better than most games today. It obviously didn’t run on real PS4 hardware, but you‘d think ten years later that level of fidelity should be easily achievable.
And does anyone remember the Agni’s Philosophy demo that Square showed back in 2012? That too looks better than almost anything out today:
That demo is from 11 years ago, before the PS4 was even announced, and looks better than anything Square has released since then. Back then people actually thought this would be the level of visual fidelity we could expect from PS4/XBoxOne lol.
We should be even more disappointed that the industry I'd still doing this 20 years later.OP I assume you're younger.
Today a lot of games look great, but us older gamers are forged in pessimism. Bullshots were a fucking epidemic 20 years ago, nothing like it is today. But we're still sour, so we're less likely to be disappointed like you.
I hope Square gets absolutely raked over the coals for this downgrade. I had hoped the days of Watch Dogs level downgrades were over. They won't though because gamers standards have dropped in terms of what they'll accept graphically and also because games journalism is worthless and never calls out publishers for anything.Forspoken definitely has one of the biggest downgrades of all time. And for no apparent reason, because Horizon (cross gen game) looks better than Forspoken's PRE-RELEASE footage. And Forspoken is 100% next-gen only
WTF SlimySnake
The devs need to re-do this game in UE5 or something.
Luminous is absolute shit
Should rename it Ludicrous instead
You know, the shot of the trees reminded of those Zelda BOTW shots posted after the downgrade. I dont know if its the lack of selfshadowing on trees or poor Ambient Occlusion, but those distant trees stand out like a sore thumb like they did in zelda. At least zelda had great art style so stuff right in front of you looked good. I dont know what they have done to the IQ in Forspoken but it looks awful in every shot.Damn they went and turned it into a switch exclusive
On the plus side, digital refunds seem to be doable in modern day. So gamers feeling burned should take advantage asap pending the e-store's return policy. As for disc gamers, good luck getting a refund at Gamestop or Walmart.I hope Square gets absolutely raked over the coals for this downgrade. I had hoped the days of Watch Dogs level downgrades were over. They won't though because gamers standards have dropped in terms of what they'll accept graphically and also because games journalism is worthless and never calls out publishers for anything.
Sure, the picture ooks like ass but I shouldn't you guys at least wait until the game is released before you're popping veins left and right? I mean, when there's a proper comparison between platforms etc.
Ooooh OK. My bad never mind. Hate away!there's a playable demo that just got a new update even... it's very easy to get a first impression of the game with that thing out
Yeah, I can see why the team that worked on KH3 moved to UE4 instead. Really is a shame we got this instead of the original vision.Luminous is absolute shit
Should rename it Ludicrous instead
No.Holy shit, does it actually look like that?
Dude f off with this. I will put some screenshots of demo later. The game looks pretty great imoGive monolith soft the same hardware as PS5 and they would absolutely stomp the shit out of this luminous engine team.
2023 on PS5
2015 on Cemu
No!No.
Dude f off with this. I will put some screenshots of demo later. The game looks pretty great imo
It’s game dev. It’s hard to judge where a game will end up. Marketing unfinished product in development.We should be even more disappointed that the industry I'd still doing this 20 years later.
I sincerely doubt the pc version is gonna look even close to the reveal tbh, and i have a monster pc, not a fox and the grape situation.PC vs console like always, nothing to see here but people who expected a high end pc version.
You know, the shot of the trees reminded of those Zelda BOTW shots posted after the downgrade. I dont know if its the lack of selfshadowing on trees or poor Ambient Occlusion, but those distant trees stand out like a sore thumb like they did in zelda. At least zelda had great art style so stuff right in front of you looked good. I dont know what they have done to the IQ in Forspoken but it looks awful in every shot.
Because y'all keep griping about frames per second.
It's never enough for the woke cultDo you always have to have things spelled out to you?
I meant that it won't get a good response from regular people who are just looking for a good time playing a decent video game, and won't hurl praise at it just because it features a black female lead or whatever. Because it's pretty much guaranteed that those loons at Kotaku and other websites like that are going to prop it up just by that virtue alone, regardless of whether the game is good or not.
Yep. Just like with witcher 3 and watch dogs and every cross gen game ever released, no dev is going to maintain two different versions of the game. They will downgrade both with minor changes that can be scaled back and forth like foliage and draw distance. Actual lighting and visual fidelity will be downgraded for PC.I sincerely doubt the pc version is gonna look even close to the reveal tbh, and i have a monster pc, not a fox and the grape situation.
How do you explain hfw looking 2 gens ahead of this and still having higher framerate and resolution?? (Like way higher)Lmao. I cant believe this is even an argument. Tell me the PS5 is your first console without telling me PS5 is your first console.
Are you trying to argue developers haven't been prioritizing 30fps over 60fps in order to have better visuals in their games over higher framerate?
Only if you have a 120hz display and use the 40hz mode.Looks fine. Is the framerate smooth?
You know, the shot of the trees reminded of those Zelda BOTW shots posted after the downgrade. I dont know if its the lack of selfshadowing on trees or poor Ambient Occlusion, but those distant trees stand out like a sore thumb like they did in zelda. At least zelda had great art style so stuff right in front of you looked good. I dont know what they have done to the IQ in Forspoken but it looks awful in every shot.