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[64bitmodels]

Pre steam deck

GPD win's terrible handhelds, Retroid Pocket 2, Alienware UFO (never went anywhere).... uhh, that's it really.

POST Steam Deck
The Deck itself, AYN Odin (actually good PS2 emulation on a 200 dollar device!!!), AYN Loki, retroid pocket 3, Asus ROG ally, Ayaneo 2, etc etc etc

ALL of this. in 1 year.

This is exactly what I predicted when the system was first unveiled. It hasn't been a year and everyone's scrambling for a piece of the action. As the years pass, these devices will only get better and better, cheaper and smaller.

The future of gaming handhelds is looking bright.

 

[LakeOf9]

Thank you Nintendo!

 

[64bitmodels]

Thank you Nintendo!

PC handheld market didnt boom like this back when the switch was first unveiled.... this is all Valve's doing

 

[It's all in the wrist]

Thank you Nintendo!

Switch 2 gonna light another fire under everyone's ass next year.

 

[LakeOf9]

PC handheld market didnt boom like this back when the switch was first unveiled.... this is all Valve's doing

And why do you think Valve made the Deck?

 

[64bitmodels]

And why do you think Valve made the Deck?

Just be glad we have actual options for handhelds besides Nintendo for the first time in a decade

 

[LakeOf9]

Just be glad we have actual options for handhelds besides Nintendo for the first time in a decade

Definitely lol. Fucking love the Steam Deck!

 

[BennyBlanco]

And why do you think Valve made the Deck?

to push linux gaming and sell people steam games who don't have PCs

 

[64bitmodels]

to push linux gaming and sell people steam games who don't have PCs

it worked. i got rid of my windows install
gotta credit them for that too.

 

[64bitmodels]

gotta thank AMD in some part too since they make the chipsets responsible for powering many of these handhelds. Their expertise in efficiency and APUs is paying off big time and it's generating more benefits for us all around

 

[feynoob]

I will wait for steam 2 deck.
Current steam deck is a risky purchase for me, due to the graphics.

 

[LakeOf9]

I will wait for steam 2 deck.
Current steam deck is a risky purchase for me, due to the graphics.

What do you mean?

 

[64bitmodels]

I will wait for steam 2 deck.
Current steam deck is a risky purchase for me, due to the graphics.

you don't need to do that, this is what my post was highlighting
With so much competition that is coming out you can get a better device now. The Asus ROG Ally seems especially like a great pick

 

[GHG]

to push linux gaming and sell people steam games who don't have PCs

Yep, the more I think about it the more I realise it's valve creating a testbed for gaming on linux to better understand the OS's viability in case Microsoft really decide to fuck about with windows in the future.

 

[64bitmodels]

Microsoft really decide to fuck about with windows in the future.

right in the nick of time too, seeing as how this is the rumored UI for Windows 12

Linux Gaming has gotten really good too, the current distro i'm using handles 98% of what i throw at it, it's great.

 

[Filben]

Damn, the Ayaneo Air looks sick and fucking amazing! If it wasn't that pricey with shipping and all those import fees I would have ordered one. But I would've ended up at 750 EUR compared to 420EUR of the Deck.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

I think their biggest contribution is on the software side. They have profiles for games and test for compatibility. Feels like a proper handheld console and not just some hobbyist device that requires lots of tinkering and effort

 

[Black_Stride]

Thank you Nintendo!

KingTendo!!!!!

P.S
Booming isnt exactly what I would call it.
The not-Nintendo Switch PC......sell pretty much exactly what they used to sell post SteamDeck.
And have always used the latest most cost effective APUs and technology available at the time.
So saying the devices were shitty because they were using 2020 spec hardware in 2020 vs the SteamDeck and other 2022 spec not-Nintendo Switch PCs in 2022 is kinda silly.

Cant believe you gonna credit the SteamDeck for Retroid, GPD, Ayaneo etc etc etc when most of them are literal Switch-lite clones.
And they existed well before the SteamDeck and are on their 3rd or 4th iterations.

 

[ssringo]

And why do you think Valve made the Deck?

Because the Steam Machines failed and the Steam controller was a great idea that wasn't quite up to snuff. This was the next iteration that combined those ideas. Plus technology, and their own OS, moved to the point they could make a proper handheld computer for gaming on the go.

Others tried the idea before Nintendo with various levels of success. Unless you're gonna point to Game Boy and such in which case I'll go ahead and say "thanks Microsoft" for putting Gabe on the holy path that led us to today.

Mostly tongue in cheek. Obviously no one thing is responsible. Thanks for your role Nintendo!

 

[64bitmodels]

The not-Nintendo Switch PC......sell pretty much exactly what they used to sell post SteamDeck.

it's not about the sales but the competition. More companies are jumping into the market after the Steam deck proved an X86 handheld could be done well. Valve is the first company to make an X86 PC handheld as good as the Deck.

Cant believe you gonna credit the SteamDeck for Retroid, GPD, Ayaneo etc etc etc when most of them are literal Switch-lite clones.

I'm not crediting GPD, i think they're an awful company and their products are shit. They had a genuine tantrum when the Deck first released and nuked their market share since they were the only people doing this handheld PC thing consistently before 2022. One of the reasons i credit the steam deck is because it got us away from GPD.

The others are fine but Ayaneo's product quality jumped exponentially when the Deck released- the Ayaneo 1 vs the Ayaneo 2 and all the little spinoffs they've made since the Deck's release... that's a response to competition

 

[MikeM]

I find the irony strong in that PC is embracing a handheld console so hard given the PCMR narratives.

Either way, i’m glad its doing well. Hopefully it makes Nintendo put out better hardware.

 

[calistan]

There was this one from about 15 years ago - the Pandora. I remember following it with interest but it seemed a risky buy in case the hobbyists who were putting it all together couldn't get it manufactured. I believe they did in the end, it exists (existed?). A lot more expensive than the Steam Deck, though.

 

[Foilz]

I have an Anbernic 35xx, just sold my 353m and have the 405m on the way. The retroid and Anbernic devices are awesome for retro gaming.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Looks like all of them took inspiration from the UFO design and not Steam Deck, including the Deck, so...

 

[64bitmodels]

There was this one from about 15 years ago - the Pandora. I remember following it with interest but it seemed a risky buy in case the hobbyists who were putting it all together couldn't get it manufactured. I believe they did in the end, it exists (existed?). A lot more expensive than the Steam Deck, though.

never heard of it. Looking at this OS it seems to be powered by Linux so ig Valve wasn't the first to make a linux powered handheld PC.

 

[64bitmodels]

Looks like all off them took inspiration from the UFO design and not Steam Deck, including the Deck, so...

Alienware UFO was unveiled in 2020. It could be likely that Valve saw that and thought they should make a handheld of their own....

 

[LiquidMetal14]

It's the best handheld ever so there is that.

 

[calistan]

never heard of it. Looking at this OS it seems to be powered by Linux so ig Valve wasn't the first to make a linux powered handheld PC.

Yeah, it was Linux and ARM. About the size of a Nintendo DS. I really wanted one, but I think the pre-order cost escalated to around £800 and Wikipedia says the company selling UK versions went bust.

 

[Drell]

Well if it can be the machine that will motivate more devs to port their games outside of Windows that's good. The thing is, proton was mandatory for it to be a success, and then it can also be seen as a necessary evil because devs, aren't in the end encouraged to port their games.

 

[64bitmodels]

I find the irony strong in that PC is embracing a handheld console so hard given the PCMR narratives.

PCMR hasn't been a thing since 2020. chip shortages have humbled us greatly.

 

[64bitmodels]

Well if it can be the machine that will motivate more devs to port their games outside of Windows that's good. The thing is, proton was mandatory for it to be a success, and then it can also be seen as a necessary evil because devs, aren't in the end encouraged to port their games.

Proton means that devs don't need to devote their time and resources to making a Linux port... they can design the game for Windows and be absolutely sure it will work on Linux because of how accurate and great proton is. Native ports don't exactly guarantee better performance either.
The issue comes with idiots like Bungie and Epic who can support proton by modifying their anticheat (a single toggle in the settings and a whole new audience gets to play Fortnite and Destiny 2 on Linux), but refuse to for literally 0 reason.
Destiny 2 is the one thing keeping my friends from jumping over to Linux and it's a game i do miss playing sometimes. Bungie choosing to actively not support it is a dick move

 

[RAIDEN1]

It will soon be a Double Impact, once the Switch 2 show's its face!

 

[existensmaximum]

I find the irony strong in that PC is embracing a handheld console so hard given the PCMR narratives.

Either way, i’m glad its doing well. Hopefully it makes Nintendo put out better hardware.

Why would Nintendo put out better hardware? Their hardware is selling astoundingly well despite having outdated and conservative specs. The Steam Deck hasn't made a dent to their sales?

 

[64bitmodels]

It will soon be a Double Impact, once the Switch 2 show's its face!

we need a steam deck 2 for a third impact.

 

[Graciaus]

I will wait for steam 2 deck.
Current steam deck is a risky purchase for me, due to the graphics.

I thought the same thing before I bought it. Only 720p in 2023? The screen is small enough that it doesn't even matter.

Best purchase I made in along time.

 

[rodrigolfp]

I find the irony strong in that PC is embracing a handheld console so hard given the PCMR narratives.

I find it strong irony that you think PC handhelds has anything to do with a console.

 

[calistan]

I find it strong irony that you think PC handhelds has anything to do with a console.

It's the PC Master Console.

 

[rodrigolfp]

It's the PC Master Console.

It's an open platform just like any PC.

 

[ssringo]

I find the irony strong in that PC is embracing a handheld console so hard given the PCMR narratives.

It's a companion device and fits that role better than other available products. I doubt many are using it as their primary PC.

The whole "PCMR narrative" seems to get pushed more by those on the outside looking in than anything.

 

[Captain Toad]

I will wait for steam 2 deck.
Current steam deck is a risky purchase for me, due to the graphics.

This was and will be the same with every console ever released.

 

[ToTTenTranz]

Switch 2 gonna light another fire under everyone's ass next year.

No way Nintendo's future hardware is going to keep up with the Phoenix-based handhelds of 2023, let alone all the yearly iterations we'll have throughout the years.

Nintendo will be launching child toys in comparison, which is totally fine if all you want are Nintendo games (not that Nintendo consoles ever get any substantial 3rd party support).

 

[Captain Toad]

I find the irony strong in that PC is embracing a handheld console so hard given the PCMR narratives.

Either way, i’m glad its doing well. Hopefully it makes Nintendo put out better hardware.

Why would a console selling 2% of what the Switch is selling effect Nintendo's decision? Not even PlayStation and Xbox have done that since the GameCube.

 

[DemonGamerTTT]

Thank you Nintendo!

Nintendo fanboys are sad...

On switch topics they say steam deck isn't competing with switch and that Nintendo don't really care.

On deck topics they come and say dumb things as this... Like if Nintendo with their outdated easily emulated hardware was doing something to push technology forward...

What a joke .

 

[touchfuzzy]

On what industry? The handheld PC-lite industry, yes of course it's made a big impact?

The gaming hardware industry as a whole? Much, much smaller, almost negligible.

 

[SmokedMeat]

I find the irony strong in that PC is embracing a handheld console so hard given the PCMR narratives.

Probably because it’s not a specialized device playing proprietary Steam Deck games.
It played a large chunk of my PC library out of the box, and every time I get a new PC game, it’s more than likely that I can take it with me via Steam Deck. Since there’s no extra cost to anything, I think people are going to be more accepting of any shortcomings.

 

[Griffon]

On what industry? The handheld PC-lite industry, yes of course it's made a big impact?

The gaming hardware industry as a whole? Much, much smaller, almost negligible.

It's very good start tho. It can get much bigger in the future.

 

[Nautilus]

You mean thanks to the Nintendo Switch?

Then yeah, thanks Nintendo!

 

[64bitmodels]

You mean thanks to the Nintendo Switch?

Then yeah, thanks Nintendo!

the best part about this boom is that we don't just have to use Nintendo handhelds

 

[DaGwaphics]

I might be interested in the ROG Ally myself. Will be interesting to see what the APU is there.

 

[jufonuk]

I will wait for steam 2 deck.
Current steam deck is a risky purchase for me, due to the graphics.

Don’t wait for the one after the second.