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I liked Dragon's Dogma PC better than Dark Souls 3 this year
- Thread starter Imp the Dimp
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Absolutely agreed. It's possible to make a wide variety of characters that all look mostly normal. It manages to find a balance between having options, and not having to get OCD about the 1-255 slider for glabella depth.
I managed to make good looking characters in DS1, DS2, and BB, but couldn't never got a character I was happy with in DS3. The faces always end up looking drastically different between the character creator and gameplay; something about the lighting on the eyes.
My DD character, by comparison, looks exactly how I want him to, and was effortless to create.
Triggerhappytel
Member
I really wish this would get a console remaster. I loved the game and I'd gladly play it again at 60fps.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
Liking Dragon's Dogma better than *blank* is never a controversial opinion to have.
Well if you reduce the games to being all about the GAMEPLAY like I've seen some people do here, then it makes it easier to make statements like that. I personally think DDs combat is a bit more "fun," but for me there's more to the games than just the combat.
TharpDaddy
Member
For me it's about the small details. Like that short characters have smaller reach, their lantern hanging at their hip will get doused in relatively shallow water that a taller character can easily move through, their lighter weight will directly impact gameplay mechanics like carrying and grappling. I made a character that was probably around 5 foot and ended up being a severe drawback when I switched her from archer to Mystic Knight -- but that just made it more cool to me. Working about my character's physical limitations was super immersive.
Stuff like a close battle with a cyclops ending because I managed to blind him and get him to stumble off a ledge to his death. Double jumping into a air dash attack to carry me a far distance and knock a skeleton archer down to where my pawns can get him. Having my pawn launch me into the air where I grab a harpy, only to realize it's heavier than me and carries me to my death. The depth of combat to me is really fun, and having so much mobility lends itself to exploration which is rewarded.
RedlineRonin
Member
Agreed. I actually like DS combat a whole bunch too, but I'd still argue that DD combat is "better" (whatever that means) and is agreeably, more fun.
I just think the game is a little bit of a mess outside of the core gameplay mechanics and character creator.
Really? If anything I think its glaring flaws are too commonly overlooked because people like jumping on big monsters. The combat is fairly simple and repetitive with little strategy needed outside of grinding to appropriate levels to actually deal damage against enemies. The world is both small and lacking in any creativity or detail. And the plot is...well, an acquired taste.
pretty done
Member
Yea I didn't like it either. Combat just doesn't feel right to me in this game, especially with no dodge move. Also hated the stamina system. Might come back to it someday but to me the Souls games are just on another planet as far as gameplay mechanics go. DD feels kinda like shit in comparison.
But they are different games... Dark Souls is kind unique... Dragon's Dogma is a Monster Hunter copy =p well kind of
If it was a MH copy it would have actually been good tho.
Joseph Anderson had a breakdown of DD that most aligned with my thoughts on the game, though as harshly as he criticized it, I can still say he probably liked it more than I did. DD is one of those rare games where every time I revisit it, its problem become more and more unbearable.
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=I0HmIls_D70
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=I0HmIls_D70
GeordieMark
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I'm with you on this. I consider DD a bit of a rough diamond. Totally agree that the world feels smaller than it initially seems to be, mainly because you are funnelled along the same roads, past the same enemies, whenever you want to go anywhere. It got old really fast, especially because you can't just run because of the stamina mechanic.
DS3 is a much more consistent experience, although I don't really rate it highly against the other games in the Souls family.
It's actually really good on console as well, despite performance issues. There were two games - Dragon's Dogma and Earth Defense Force - I really wanted on Steam and we got them both this year. Spent more than a hundred hours on Steam DD, knowing full well that I'll return to it again in the future and I already spent 200+ hours on the 360 version. It just does so much more right than it does wrong, felling completely unique with a wonderful Japanese take on western RPGs, I cannot fathom why it wasn't more universally loved.
Now if only Steam players would discover Earth Defense Force 4.1 next, much more would be right in the world
BakedTanooki
Member
Really strange there is no remaster on PS4 / Xbox One yet. Would buy immediately (my pc is too weak)
TharpDaddy
Member
I suspect if they end up wanting to release Dragon's Dogma Online or a Dragon's Dogma 2 in the west, we'll see a current gen port.
DD had some incredible boss battles and made some of the best movesets for the different classes, but I think they need to go back to the drawing board on just about every other aspect of game design. It was a respectable first attempt at the genre, and I'd like to see another.
Omega Kirby
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And Dragon's Dogma is only the FIRST in the series. So even with all it's flaws it's so freaking good and fun to play.
Imagine how godlike the sequel will be, if ever made and they add more stuff and iron out the flaws from the previous game. This series has potential to be among the top. (Elder Scrolls, Dark Souls etc.)
Imagine how godlike the sequel will be, if ever made and they add more stuff and iron out the flaws from the previous game. This series has potential to be among the top. (Elder Scrolls, Dark Souls etc.)
Supermanisdead
Member
Well of course. DD is one of the best games ever made
BakedTanooki
Member
Hope you are right!
righthandmouse
Banned
I keep forgetting I have this game on steam. I'll be jumping in tonight!
same here!
What were your settings? I have a (now) mid-tier comp with a i5 2300k, Geforce 570, and 16gig ram.
Thinking about buying it on Steam since when I owned it on PS3 it ran crappy and a PS4 release seems to still be at soonest, next Summer or holiday.
pretty done
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except for Jon Snow, Cersei and The Hound, yea most of them were pretty good
The Andre3000 one is on point, and the Donna one is near perfect.
Haha, yes. That's my view on the title as well.
I actually think DD is better than OK, but DS3 has been such a massive disappointment for me that it really wouldn't take much for me to rate a game higher than it. Too many references to DS1, too linear, too many annoyingly aggressive enemies and too many weapons that are ineffective against those enemies, so on and so forth. Best thing I can say about it is that it feels good to play if you pick the right weapon(s), but if you make the wrong choices the entire game is a bloody slog to play through, something that wasn't really the case in 2 (1 is another matter). Also, it's pretty, but that's to be expected in 2016.
Dragon's Dogma just gets so many things right that it's hard for me to fault it for the things it doesn't. The core gameplay is right at the forefront of the game's design, which tons of variety in the ways you can approach any given encounter. So many armor pieces to mix and match with the layered clothing system, on top of the character creation being over-the-top awesome. The fervent reverence with which they recreate classical monsters, giving it this feel of being a genuine D&D action RPG. It just feels so good to actually play (particularly once you get your portcrystals down and you're just zooming in and out of encounters) that I don't even mind the threadbare story or the fact that I'm killing the same monsters for the dozenth time.
It's still bothering me that its sales are not as high as they should be for a game of its quality. I would hope it would get DS1 equivalent sales at least. We need a sequel, dammit!
Horsemama1956
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Thanks man. Really needed to know which game you liked better.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Dragon's Dogma is good. But if OP is judging both games on how fun they are to play, then I have to give the nod to Dark Souls 3.
tiebreaker
Member
I'm hoping for a remaster on PS4 or a big sale on steam. Been itching to play this game.
SkylineRKR
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DD is great but I call it unplayable on consoles. I don't have a PC so I never really played it as much as I like. I did play DD Online on PS4 and loved it.
I hoped for DD Remastered.
I hoped for DD Remastered.
My only real issue is that Dragon's Dogma becomes a total cakewalk just a few hours in. The dread of skulking about at night in the very early hours is completely shot once you are able to pretty much decimate everything with ease after a few skill points and levels gained.
I never played the Dark Arisen expansion though, which I hear can be brutal, so one day I'll revisit and try that. But vanilla on 360 left me wanting for a more balanced experience given how superb the combat system felt.
I never played the Dark Arisen expansion though, which I hear can be brutal, so one day I'll revisit and try that. But vanilla on 360 left me wanting for a more balanced experience given how superb the combat system felt.