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IGN Posts Up More Project Cafe Hardware Power Rumors
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Net_Wrecker
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:lol @ people asking for a price only $50 more than their latest handheld.
I'm fully expecting a $350 launch price, and as long as the tech delivers (and I mean best, or close to best case scenario based on the rumors) I'll have no problem with that.
I'm fully expecting a $350 launch price, and as long as the tech delivers (and I mean best, or close to best case scenario based on the rumors) I'll have no problem with that.
SolidSnakex
Member
antonz said:
I don't think that the price of this console will have much impact on how Sony or MS prices their consoles. $400 seems to be the max that people are willing to "accept" for consoles. That'll likely be both of their targets for whenever they launch their system (which I still think will be 2013 at the earliest).
slidewinder
Banned
I'd bet the Cafe'll end up having GDDR5 on a 128 bit bus.Jin34 said:
Why would you do that?
Member
Sadly, none of this really excites me too much. I think I need to see the special features of this console, the new games, and how they're controlled before I become excited.
Personally, I think that an all-out DKC Returns 2 would show off the power of any system very well.TekkenMaster said:
TekkenMaster
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Why would you do that? said:
How so? The visual style is inherently cartoony and lacking in detail compared to a Metroid Prime type game.
Sutton Dagger
Member
bgassassin said:
Now we're talking, I can actually relate to that analogy.
So then Wii = Kaio-Ken x20
360 = SSJ1
PS3= Ascended Saiyan
Project Cafe' = SSJ2
Let's use these as reference points from now on
AceBandage
Banned
lockload said:
It's less a questions of "if it's more powerful" and more a question of "how much more powerful", which seems to be subjective, even with a good basis for speculation.
Sutton Dagger said:Now we're talking, I can actually relate to that analogy.
So then Wii = Kaio-Ken x20
360 = SSJ1
PS3= Ascended Saiyan
Project Cafe' = SSJ2
Let's use these as reference points from now on
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
IGN's falling off. No random voxel speculation? No speculation about entirely NURBS based hardware? Real time ray tracing?
Now it's just, "It'll be more powerful." *sigh*
Now it's just, "It'll be more powerful." *sigh*
AceBandage
Banned
Freshmaker said:
No real time Leather Mapping?
So that puts the next PS/Xbox when they come out = Mystic Gohan most probablySutton Dagger said:Now we're talking, I can actually relate to that analogy.
So then Wii = Kaio-Ken x20
360 = SSJ1
PS3= Ascended Saiyan
Project Cafe' = SSJ2
Let's use these as reference points from now on
bgassassin
Member
Krowley said:
I would expect first gen/launch games would be close to that, but second and third gen should be where it's at. But I think it's things like what Team Bondi is doing with LA Noire that will separate games on next gen consoles.
Tchu-Espresso
likes mayo on everthing and can't dance
I think the problem we are going to see is similar to the one that occurred this generation. Sony and Microsoft will still get the premiere hardware pushing games that will have to be scaled back to Nintendo's system. Especially when these things are going to be need to pushing games for the next 5-8 years at a time.
AceBandage
Banned
The Black Brad Pitt said:
It won't be similar at all.
The power gap between the 360 and the Wii was an ocean.
The power gap between the Cafe and whatever the 720 will be will be closer to a puddle in comparison.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Pretty great idea from IGN in theory, but their comments are just sort of not fair. They can't really tell me that they didn't see much improvement in Crysis 2 running at 50% better framerate and in true 1080p over constantly stuttery sub-720p console version using terrible temporal AA?
Also, their screenshots are horrible beyond belief and don't do their custom rig any justice. Not only they didn't post screens in true 1080p, with X360 side upscaled to 1080p like it would be on the same TV, but they captured interlaced screens which almost always make their custom rig screens look like total mess.
Also, their screenshots are horrible beyond belief and don't do their custom rig any justice. Not only they didn't post screens in true 1080p, with X360 side upscaled to 1080p like it would be on the same TV, but they captured interlaced screens which almost always make their custom rig screens look like total mess.
Well, you can't know what's gonna be there in 2-3 years. If PS4/720 hardware allows for smooth running of a game that looks like that new Epic Samaritan demo, something like that certainly won't be doable on this level of hardware without some major scaling back.AceBandage said:
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
I thought that was part of Unreal Engine's brown functions.AceBandage said:
AceBandage
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lockload said:
Based on these specs, it's closer to 5 times as powerful.
And as it stands, there's nothing on the market currently or planned that will run on a console that would put it as far ahead as the 360 was over the Wii.
Net_Wrecker
Member
lockload said:
People are assuming that Microsoft won't make a big jump with their next console since they be wantin' dat moneyz.
AceBandage
Banned
TunaLover said:
Uh, the 360 and PS3 have been running it all gen now...
Why wouldn't a much stronger system be able to?
I doubt that's true, especially since their engineering team saw the biggest hit after MP3 to the point where they had to assign a new person to direct their team with DKCR.TekkenMaster said:
Yoshiaki Koizumi does great work too, I think SMG still looks better than any Retro game on Wii. If EAD pulls together they should be fine.
Dr.Palutena
Member
The Black Brad Pitt said:
you're not taking in a lot of changed variables between now and 2005/2006
namely :
a) how large the gap between Café and ps4/NeXtbox will be technical wise
b) the launch order
c) developers outlook/expectations of nintendo.
I don't know about that, a 4850 is only like 3-4x more powerful than the Xenos in the 360. I would only call something proper next gen if it has at leat the power of a GTX 580 in there which is more than 10x faster than the Xenos in the 360.Nirolak said:
There's also the chance that Nintendo are going to go with only 1GB of GDDR5 which will cripple the console.
brucewaynegretzky
Member
Ok don't think this has been asked....
Can it run Crysis?
Can it run Crysis?
AceBandage
Banned
Mr_Brit said:
Well then, the 720 and PS4 won't be next gen either...
polyh3dron
Banned
I'm not getting my hopes up until I play the fucking thing at E3
ColonialRaptor
Member
To me, it feels like Nintendo is coming out of their Wii leadership, with all of these new people who have experience the Wii and Nintendo games and intend(o) to bring them into the HD age with a powerful machine.
Imagine the sorts of things we are going to see in a HD super powerful Mario game.... If it's Back Compatible and displays all of the Wii games in proper HD then I am very happy that I skipped over playing all of the Wii games since Mario Galaxy since I can now go back and play them all in nice and clean HD. Galaxy 2 in HD will be glorious!
But, the idea of a ground up Mario Galaxy game for this system tickles me pink.
I think overall this system, if it turns out to be the way it sounds like it's going to be, is going to be exactly what I wanted Nintendo to do. I've always been such a Nintendo fan, but during the Wii generation I almost completely turned away from them, and that makes me sad - if they're coming back into my ball park, that makes me happy!
Nintendo did what they had to during the Wii generation, but they always seem to turn different places here and there this way and that way. High quality screen in controller, with these high powered graphics is a fantastic step in the right direction for ME, but will it be a step in the right direction for them? We know that typically Nintendo can't compete with Sony and Microsoft at their own game so they still need to approach the market differently, they still need to hit the gamers girlfriends, they still need to hit that market that they hit with the Wii.
This E3 will be the best ever.
Imagine the sorts of things we are going to see in a HD super powerful Mario game.... If it's Back Compatible and displays all of the Wii games in proper HD then I am very happy that I skipped over playing all of the Wii games since Mario Galaxy since I can now go back and play them all in nice and clean HD. Galaxy 2 in HD will be glorious!
But, the idea of a ground up Mario Galaxy game for this system tickles me pink.
I think overall this system, if it turns out to be the way it sounds like it's going to be, is going to be exactly what I wanted Nintendo to do. I've always been such a Nintendo fan, but during the Wii generation I almost completely turned away from them, and that makes me sad - if they're coming back into my ball park, that makes me happy!
Nintendo did what they had to during the Wii generation, but they always seem to turn different places here and there this way and that way. High quality screen in controller, with these high powered graphics is a fantastic step in the right direction for ME, but will it be a step in the right direction for them? We know that typically Nintendo can't compete with Sony and Microsoft at their own game so they still need to approach the market differently, they still need to hit the gamers girlfriends, they still need to hit that market that they hit with the Wii.
This E3 will be the best ever.
lockload said:
You're assuming ofcourse that we're not at the point of severe diminishing returns when it comes to visuals in games?
The fact is an Xbox 720 could be 50 times more powerful than Cafe but the gulf between Cafe and 720 would be much much smaller than between the Wii and 360. In addition, the Cafe will be outputting at a HD resolution via HDMI, by that feature alone dramatically cuts any gap between the Cafe and a future MS/Sony console, unless everyone switches to 4K TV's over the next 5 years or so (highly unlikely).
i priced out there spec and i don't get to 400 dollars
i do get to- this is retail mind you-
350 dollars
cpu 80
motherboard 50
hdd- 40- a 250gig hdd at that too
ddr3 ram 24
the 4850 video card is 115
micro atx case with power supply 40
total of 349 dollars
no idea where ign is getting their prices...
if i can build that spec for 350
chances are if that spec is close,,,299 tops for the "cafe" depending on the controller
i do get to- this is retail mind you-
350 dollars
cpu 80
motherboard 50
hdd- 40- a 250gig hdd at that too
ddr3 ram 24
the 4850 video card is 115
micro atx case with power supply 40
total of 349 dollars
no idea where ign is getting their prices...
if i can build that spec for 350
chances are if that spec is close,,,299 tops for the "cafe" depending on the controller