Doom85
Member
Bruh, no one knows how BG 3 did on PS5 yet. Sales numbers have not been announced.
And yet:
And the thread is connected to the leak which can connect to the ABK acquisition in terms of Microsoft’s intentions.
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In leaked emails Microsoft described GOTY frontrunner Baldur's Gate 3 as “second-run Stadia PC RPG”.
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Bruh, no one knows how BG 3 did on PS5 yet. Sales numbers have not been announced.
And yet:
And the thread is connected to the leak which can connect to the ABK acquisition in terms of Microsoft’s intentions.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Polygon is going with the negative connotation as well. Granted its fucking polygon.
MadPanda
Banned
Not just them but apparently 99% of GAF doesn't.
Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
Probably meant 'second-rate'Do you even know what "first run" and "second run" even mean?
And fucking idiots in Verge to. "Journalists" my ass.
When that document was created BG3 was planned to launch first on PC and Stadia. That make it for XBox and Sony literally second run Stadia RPG.
Second run means that it's re-release of product. Fucking idiots everywhere.
Definition of SECOND RUN
the run of a motion picture under a second release… See the full definitionwww.merriam-webster.com
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Most definitely. Who uses "second run"? Why is anyone giving MS the benefit of the doubt here?
Punished Miku
Gold Member
It's literally the meaning of the words he used.
Definition of SECOND RUN
the run of a motion picture under a second release… See the full definition
www.merriam-webster.com
But yeah, let's just assume he meant to use other words that were far more negative, even though they were scoping them out as a valuable studio for acquisitions. Let's just assume he typed the wrong words instead of just correctly reading what he wrote and understanding the actual meaning of the words.
He even used the hyphenated second-run, which is exactly how it is written.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
I'm just going on what the verge is saying as well as polygon. It was lumped with Lets sing abba. Not a good look. Keep fighting the good fight though.It's literally the meaning of the words he used.
Definition of SECOND RUN
the run of a motion picture under a second release… See the full definition
But yeah, let's just assume he meant to use other words that were far more negative, even though they were scoping them out as a valuable studio for acquisitions. Let's just assume he typed the wrong words instead of just correctly reading what he wrote and understanding the actual meaning of the words.
He even used the hyphenated second-run, which is exactly how it is written.
bender
What time is it?
Take second-run out of the equation, treating BG3 like it isn't worthy of your platform while at the same time ignoring your largest platform is the bigger issue. Further let's ignore that PC Gaming is powered by Windows and that PC Game Pass is a thing. A lot of the Xbox's early brand success can be attributed to Bioware with Knights of the Old Republic, Jade Empire, and the Mass Effect series. What games did Bioware make prior to developing for Xbox? And what formally PC centric RPG studio to Microsoft recently acquire that just released on the most anticipated titles of the year? This dismissive attitude is why Phil and team held the line about the parity clause related to BG3 until PC reviews started rolling in.
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Horseganador
Member
Stafford
Member
Polygon is going with the negative connotation as well. Granted its fucking polygon.
Yeah, I'm not surprised at all. Shit site.
kuncol02
Banned
Why you want to take it out of equation? BG3 having launch on PC and Stadia earlier was exactly why MS valued getting it onto GamePass as that low value.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
It's literally impossible to communicate on here anymore. Dictionaries are just cope and console war now.
If you guys think I'm fighting for MS, you couldn't be more wrong. I was actually fighting to salvage this site as a decent place to read about games and talk about it. It's far easier for me to just hit ignore thread, which is what I'll be doing again.
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SEGAvangelist
Gold Member
Yes, these numbers existed 16 months ago.
bender
What time is it?
I'm taking it out of the equation in relation to the debate of whether it was conflated with "second-rate". I don't think that's the important part of the statement in the least.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
So you agree it was undervalued? literally the whole point?
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TransTrender
Gold Member
Edit: Wrong thread. Eating well today
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Last Hearth
Member
I believe the correct term is second rung.
It was a stadia timed exclusive until they went TU.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
TIL that nobody on GAF understand what "second-run" means
TrueGrime
Member
TrueGrime
Member
A lesson in not counting your tadpoles before they’ve hatched.
When Microsoft was considering future release titles to bring to Game Pass last May, Larian’s hit CRPG Baldur’s Gate 3 barely made the list. The game was described as a “Second-run Stadia PC RPG” in leaked emails from the FTC v. Microsoft case. The explosive overnight popularity of Baldur’s Gate...www.theverge.com
And OP. A lot of people misjudged BG3's success. LOL. Even, guess who.... ?
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
So Stadia had exclusive cloud rights when they said this?
Tams
Member
Today must be a very bad day too be an Xbox fan.
TrueGrime
Member
BG3 was revealed during a Stadia conference. Not sure that they had exclusive cloud rights, but Larian was very much into Stadia at the time.
CoreyFlawless
Member
I did say IF. As for the ip, it is a ip that mostly know for pc. More likely the only console ppl that know of that ip are ppl that are on forums like this or Twitter.
Bruh, no one knows how BG 3 did on PS5 yet. Sales numbers have not been announced.
And yet:
And the thread is connected to the leak which can connect to the ABK acquisition in terms of Microsoft’s intentions.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
It is in a genre that would be fine on a streaming service too, so makes sense they were gung-ho about it.
Stadia had the best tech too IMO.
But I also would be surprised if BG3 were being announced at a Stadia conference and they didn't have some sort of cloud exclusivity for a time period.
CoreyFlawless
Member
Idk, there could be some crazy Xbox fan out there thinking. Hell yeah, they made get Nintendo in the future and happy to see what could be coming in the future. So it really depends how you look at it.
Doom85
Member
You said “if”, and then proceeded to act like you know how Sony fans would react. I’m not interested in conjecture.
Which you proceed to rely on with your last sentence.
Here, while it’s not proof the game sold well, it’s at least evidence and not pure guesswork:
Baldur’s Gate 3 Tops PlayStation's Pre-Order Charts
Baldur’s Gate 3 takes the top spot on PlayStation's pre-order charts, topping games like Mortal Kombat 1 and Spider-Man 2.
www.cbr.com
RoboFu
One of the green rats
Idk if that email was recent but at one time that’s exactly what it was. The game has been early access for years with very slow progress and was announced for stadia at a stadia event.
They prove Miyamoto’s saying though. A delayed game can eventually be good. But a rushed game will forever be bad.
They prove Miyamoto’s saying though. A delayed game can eventually be good. But a rushed game will forever be bad.
CoreyFlawless
Member
Dude, stop denying the fact the hardcore PlayStation and the hardcore Xbox fans don’t jump on each other throats whenever possible.You said “if”, and then proceeded to act like you know how Sony fans would react. I’m not interested in conjecture.
Which you proceed to rely on with your last sentence.
Here, while it’s not proof the game sold well, it’s at least evidence and not pure guesswork:
Baldur’s Gate 3 Tops PlayStation's Pre-Order Charts
Baldur’s Gate 3 takes the top spot on PlayStation's pre-order charts, topping games like Mortal Kombat 1 and Spider-Man 2.
Doom85
Member
Let‘s see here, how did you put it?
Ah yes, you truly were calling out BOTH sets of fanboys there.
And hilarious you come at me with “facts” when you just theorized, with zero evidence, that the only people who know BG 3 are Reddit and forum users.
Meanwhile, I actually provided evidence suggesting the contrary, and of course, you fail to acknowledge it and move goal posts.
I swear to god this savage interview snippet with Jobs is getting a LOT of mileage today.
What a ridiculous company.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
The wording is poor at the very least. It's also been pointed out that ms valued the game very low and put it in a category next to let's sing abba. There's more evidence to suggest MS undervalued this than not.
JTCx
Member
Its no secret.
DanielG165
Member
I’m surprised this thread is still open, and grown adults are still debating/fighting over it, when the theoretical thread ender was right on the very first page, #7 post. Second run doesn’t mean “second class” nor does it have any derogatory connotation. It means what any sane person would think it meant: the second run of a product after the first run, IE: the first release. What do you think a rerelease of a film to theaters is called? Stop putting heads in the sand like ostriches were bum-steered to do, and take like 2 minutes to do critical thinking and learn what the term means before producing a comment.
I’m so glad I was always heavily into books as a kid, and worked in a library for 4 years, because such taught me how to know what weird words and terms mean, or to like, do actual research to learn lol. It takes a good 5 minutes to do at best.
I’m so glad I was always heavily into books as a kid, and worked in a library for 4 years, because such taught me how to know what weird words and terms mean, or to like, do actual research to learn lol. It takes a good 5 minutes to do at best.
StereoVsn
Member
So what you are saying is that MS pulled out and Jim Ryan got Phil's sloppy seconds?
Die Namek Ability
Member
Ill just leave this here
bender
What time is it?
CoreyFlawless
Member
Well for one, cause it is the PlayStation fans on this post. With u defending this part so bad. That must had hurt you cause you are one.
Let‘s see here, how did you put it?
Ah yes, you truly were calling out BOTH sets of fanboys there.
And hilarious you come at me with “facts” when you just theorized, with zero evidence, that the only people who know BG 3 are Reddit and forum users.
Meanwhile, I actually provided evidence suggesting the contrary, and of course, you fail to acknowledge it and move goal posts.
Doom85
Member
Bruh, I’ve pointed out people making baseless theories on how BG 3 did on consoles, I’ve pointed out how you weren’t consistent with your claims of “I’m criticizing both sets of fanboys!”, and you also chose to agree with the baseless theories. That clown mask ever get itchy?
And hurt? Ah yes, it’s the Sony fans who are hurting today.
