ResilientBanana
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In resolution only, sure.Trying to undermine Sony, by holding back next-gen.
In resolution only, sure.Trying to undermine Sony, by holding back next-gen.
So why are devs complaining about RAM shortage in lockhart is the GPU is really a measly 4tf? Wouldn't that be a bigger issue?
So why are devs complaining about RAM shortage in lockhart is the GPU is really a measly 4tf? Wouldn't that be a bigger issue?
Are devs complaining tho? Which dev is complaining about it when it hasn't been officially announced?So why are devs complaining about RAM shortage in lockhart is the GPU is really a measly 4tf? Wouldn't that be a bigger issue?
Are devs complaining tho? Which dev is complaining about it when it hasn't been officially announced?
Im hearing sony is 2.5gz for 40 cus @ the north pole
Poster quoted here says 12.8tf. And this is TimDog.Looks like PS5 is closer to 9tf than 11tf lol based on leak specs
...Anaconda is targeting around 12 teraflops (TF)...It's important to note, however, that TF doesn't really tell the entire story of next-gen systems, owing to piles of custom tech Microsoft is planning to bake into these consoles.
and other general bespoke, proprietary optimizations will see Anaconda perform anywhere up to four to five times better than the Xbox One X, if targets are met.
a pro tip for your:4 TF is a pathetic minimum spec for entry level next-gen Xbox.
The 12 TF of the high-end Xbox won't matter, devs will never be able to fully use that because it'll just be for getting games to render the same games (built for the 4TF console) at 4K with brute force.
PS5 specs, with 10+ TF (or close to Anaconda) will be fully utilized, devs can always count on PlayStation base specs.
Microsoft is pulling another dumbfuck move that developers reportedly hate, Lockhart is a pain in the arse/bum, they said.
a pro tip for your:
search for the 10 last biggest AAA games from 2019 and then look on the "minimum requirements PC specs"
can you see how stupid your post is? ...
Fucking Lockhart, I thought it was dead... Why do they have to botch nextgen (again)?
This will never, and has never been true.4 TF is a pathetic minimum spec for entry level next-gen Xbox.
The 12 TF of the high-end Xbox won't matter, devs will never be able to fully use that because it'll just be for getting games to render the same games (built for the 4TF console) at 4K with brute force.
PS5 specs, with 10+ TF (or close to Anaconda) will be fully utilized, devs can always count on PlayStation base specs.
Microsoft is pulling another dumbfuck move that developers reportedly hate, Lockhart is a pain in the arse/bum, they said.
Fucking Lockhart, I thought it was dead... Why do they have to botch nextgen (again)?
having a hard time believing that 12TF will fit in a small box for $499, but I’m far from an expert.
Motherfuckers they're going to hamstring nextgen with lockhart.
4 TF is a pathetic minimum spec for entry level next-gen Xbox.
The 12 TF of the high-end Xbox won't matter, devs will never be able to fully use that because it'll just be for getting games to render the same games (built for the 4TF console) at 4K with brute force.
PS5 specs, with 10+ TF (or close to Anaconda) will be fully utilized, devs can always count on PlayStation base specs.
Microsoft is pulling another dumbfuck move that developers reportedly hate, Lockhart is a pain in the arse/bum, they said.
I have been able to convince myself as to why MS would release the rumored Lockheart, but OMG now we are talking about 1/3 the power of Anaconda? I cannot envision how this won't royally screw over Anaconda purchasers (who are expecting truly ground breaking software). There is no way I can believe those 12TF will be utilized like they would if Anaconda was the only sku.
MS needs to go on record here once and for all. Enough rumors and vague pr dancing with the same rumors resurfacing.
Welcome to the "We hate Lockhart Console" club.
Exactly. This just looks like a replacement for the Xbox One X, targeting 1080p, with the same rough level of power.again, it's pretty simple. if Anaconda targets 4k, a modern 4TF console with very similar specs other than the GPU can easily run the exact same games at 1080p and a very similar performance level and similar settings.
nothing is holding anything back.
That's an even bigger problem then. Get rid of those too, we are waiting for nextgen for other reasons than playing Xbox One level games at higher resolutions. I think they just mean cross-gen games that will eventually disappear but Lockhart will be here with us obstructing developers in fully utilizing Anaconda and PS5. If Lockhart is real and as shitty as it is rumored now then I hope MS will cancel it as soon after seeing what PS5 exclusives can do. And before any dense Ms fanboy wants to accuse me of being a Sony fanboy... no, I just want all games (3rd party and MS exclusives as well) to be real nextgen experiences. That's all.Lockhart is not the enemy.
If the games are playable across Xbox One , Xbox One X & both of the Scarlett consoles why worry about Lockhart holding things back? If anything Lockhart is going to give publishers /devs more of a reason to make games that use the Scarlett features over just making Xbox One games with better resolutions & frame rates.
Hope so because I just can't see any logic in having two machines with such a disparity in power capability.Wouldn't 4 scarlett TFs work out about the same as an X? If so then my guess would be that lockhart is a replacement for the one family with some extra ram and cpu oomph, and scarlett is the actual new gen dogs danglies.
Yeah, it's just half-assed conjecture. The next gen thread does it better than they ever could.This article is crap. It’s just a bunch of rumors without anything hard backing it up.
ROFL ...every article... "Trying to trick SONY" ..
Mark Cerny really did a number on these clowns at MS in Feb 2013...
Then the download will take much longer because you are streaming.This makes a lot of sense and is my biggest "wishlist" item for next-gen after full backwards compatibility.
I picked up Days Gone over Black Friday - that fucker took over an hour to install to my PS4 then had to download a 30GB update which took over 30 minutes to apply. By the time it was done installing / updating, I had already been playing a different game on my PC and had lost interest entirely.
Correct if the GPU nowadays was only doing graphical “fluff“ while it can and does a lot more. Balancing an 8 TFLOPS delta in only graphical details means that the top end console is limited in what you can accelerate gameplay wise with that extra compute power.
Sure, but it can even do that in the background, after I put the console in sleep mode.Then the download will take much longer because you are streaming.
I think most of us understand that perfectly well. But people buying a 12 TF LAUNCH system have expectations of games designed to push 12 TF. If MS insists on feature parity between 4TF and 12TF (seems rather likely), do you really believe they can just turn down graphical settings and never have to make compromises to ensure parity? I have a lot of trouble believing that, and now see Anaconda as really nothing more than Pro or X. Simply capable of better resolution of games designed for base models.The people not understanding that game engines are scaleable are going to be spouting uneducated garbage until they come out and blow minds.
TFs would matter if your comparing like for like, same architectures, RDNA2 to RDNA2, then TFs would be a strong indicator, though Ray tracing implementation differences could play a bit if that role too, in additionSince, when was TF an absolute GPU power scale ? 4 TF of Navi is better than 6 TF of Xbox One X. Nothing is being hold back.
Glad someone else saw it.TFs would matter if your comparing like for like, same architectures, RDNA2 to RDNA2, then TFs would be a strong indicator, though Ray tracing implementation differences could play a bit if that role too, in addition
That's an even bigger problem then. Get rid of those too, we are waiting for nextgen for other reasons than playing Xbox One level games at higher resolutions. I think they just mean cross-gen games that will eventually disappear but Lockhart will be here with us obstructing developers in fully utilizing Anaconda and PS5. If Lockhart is real and as shitty as it is rumored now then I hope MS will cancel it as soon after seeing what PS5 exclusives can do. And before any dense Ms fanboy wants to accuse me of being a Sony fanboy... no, I just want all games (3rd party and MS exclusives as well) to be real nextgen experiences. That's all.
I do believe that to be the case. GPU TFLOPS have more to do with processing graphics than much else. The CPUs have more than enough power to provide the innovations in gameplay that people are looking for such as smarter AI, physics, Quantity of AI on screen at once, high poly meshes, so on and so forth.I think most of us understand that perfectly well. But people buying a 12 TF LAUNCH system have expectations of games designed to push 12 TF. If MS insists on feature parity between 4TF and 12TF (seems rather likely), do you really believe they can just turn down graphical settings and never have to make compromises to ensure parity? I have a lot of trouble believing that, and now see Anaconda as really nothing more than Pro or X. Simply capable of better resolution of games designed for base models.
MS really needs to put these rumors to bed. If they want to hide specs fine. But tell us - no dancing - will there be two sku's as rumored?
I call BS on 16GB RAM. It will have at least 20.
They're trying to trick Sony.
Are you saying xbox is going to be the most powerful console?Just so you know jez not only had superb sources, but i know of like 3 other sources that all believe this. Tom Warren is one, the others well lets just say they are even better than Tom. So yeah I think i stayed strong and never waiver on most powerful console next gen. Xbox
Very good point, matters probably more to Sony with console exclusives with what little difference it would make not having a "1080p" model and pc specs to coverEven if they get rid of Xbox One S & Xbox One X you still have low end PCs. MS has no reason to jump out the window & try making games that can only run on a 12TF console that may or may not sale enough to recoup from the work it would take to make a game that only play on that console.