Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
Shame. Justin Long does good work.
I respect his decision though, and understand it completely. Godspeed, sir.
I respect his decision though, and understand it completely. Godspeed, sir.
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Is the porn the last industry to have blatant racism AND profit from it?
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The reason I don't end up watching much IR porn is part of what Justin Long is saying... often the videos have one or more of a few horrible things in play such as
-stereotypical urban thug behavior being played up
-humiliation aspects (too big for her, forced to fuck/raped by a black guy, etc. Seemingly just having sex with a black guy can be humiliating)
-some kind of faux "breaking the rules" vibe, like it's an edgy or degrading thing to fuck a black guy
And some other stuff I'm forgetting right now. I tend to be sensitive to humiliation aspects in porn, which unfortunately is part of so much of it.
-stereotypical urban thug behavior being played up
-humiliation aspects (too big for her, forced to fuck/raped by a black guy, etc. Seemingly just having sex with a black guy can be humiliating)
-some kind of faux "breaking the rules" vibe, like it's an edgy or degrading thing to fuck a black guy
And some other stuff I'm forgetting right now. I tend to be sensitive to humiliation aspects in porn, which unfortunately is part of so much of it.
PhoenixDark
Banned
Guys like Mandingo, Lex Steel, and Justin Slayer are great because they're pure professionals and while they have their own little trademark behaviors...ultimately the scene is mainly focused on the chick. I can't stand Wesley Pipes styles of degrading the chick by calling her names, being overly aggressive, etc. Whereas a guy like Mandingo is just chill throughout his scene, gets it in, and that's that.
I'm not gonna lie, I like the fetish shit in IR (husband not home, too big, etc), I just can't stand the thug shit.
I'm not gonna lie, I like the fetish shit in IR (husband not home, too big, etc), I just can't stand the thug shit.
You are a strange dude.
The Anti-Monitor
Banned
Finding a good scene with a black actor where his race isn't treated as the ultimate "breaking the rules" is awesome.
IdreamofHIME
Member
Always bothers me they refer to Black girls as Ebony and Trans girls as SM's. These people are your money makers and they're treated like dirt. It's a terrible industry and as well paid as some are, I pity and feel sorry for anyone in it.
BadAss2961
Member
What's wrong with Ebony? To me it's just a key word that quickly confirms black girls. Helps in searches.
I don't see the industry switching from SM to Trans anytime soon though. SM and that other offensive term (
tranny
nephilimdj
Member
African girls are in alot of Euro produced porn, esp. countries like Spain and France were there more common prostitutes.
Whole politically correct African American thing doesn't work here.
Meus Renaissance
Member
Black male actors generally have larger than average sizes. Perhaps the sight of this makes some male viewers uncomfortable, or unable to fantasise properly due to the contrast between their sizes?
Well if mixed counts then Keiran Lee is Half Indian, Half English. And he's different in that he's the only contracted male actor the company has.
Hoya Destroyer
Member
So, am I racist if I like Cumbang?
NinjaBoiX
Member
The Anti-Monitor
Banned
That wouldn't work as there are plenty of huge white guys with no problems.
Black guys get jobs mostly to be animal-like and brutal and shit like that, which is why you only ever see gigantic black dongs. In gangbangs and shit you can see a lot of normal sized black dicks.
I would say thats what gets those guys off specifically.
So they are really bisexual?
It can always get worse than SM, Mickey Rourke in Spun.
Chicks with dicks
I'd agree with PD unlike many I don't watch a porn scene to see a woman get degraded. I want to see a two good performers having sex that is not that fake ass soft focus stuff but is also not the extreme gaping,spitting and slapping stuff that passes for a lot of mainstream gonzo and mainly features white performers.
The male performers he mentioned always deliver good scenes. And know who the focus of the scene should be on. The woman. My wife finds it funny that I have fave male performers. But I know if I watch one of their scenes it's going to be good. The female performer will be more relaxed, there is a core of 5 black male performers that white female porn stars like to work with.
Rico Strong
Mandingo
Lex
Justin Slayer
Prince Yahshua
I would have added Mr Marcus but he fucked up so badly. He was the go to guy for a lot of these white female performers doing IR and now his blackballed himself.
Hello, says pro wrestling.
Even in a PG environment, in just the past few years WWE has had a team of black dudes who had a gimmick of being thugs who stole stuff and sold it. It was allegedly a parody of how racists see black people, but that was dropped immediately and they were just thugs who stole stuff, but were the good guys.
Then you currently have R-Truth who has been doing a straight up minstrel character for the past 2 years. You also have Wrasslegaf favorite the Big Show who is an outright racist to the Mexican Alberto Del Rio and his announcer Ricardo Rodriguez. At least he's the bad guy. Before, John Cena and Sheamus were outright racist to them despite being the number one and two babyfaces. Let's not forget that Mark Henry has been billed as both the Silverback and King of the Jungle. There are STILL Samoan wrestlers who wear jungle prints, wear no shows, and have unimaginably thick craniums. Just a few weeks ago, CM Punk called the audience and WWE out for having Brodus Clay "shuck and jive" every week. Clay responded that he LIKED shucking and jiving.
If you go back a bit further, you can look at Booker T's entire career, basically. When Harlem Heat debuted in WCW, they came out in chains and were managed by a Southern man in a white suit. This was in the 90s. Over the years, his promo style was all jive talk and they were heels mostly because WCW was a Southern based company. Towards the end of WCW, people would cut promos about his jive talk, mother being food stamps, not knowing his father, and on and on. Once he went to WWE, he became a straight up buffoon and had a feud with HHH that was heavily focused on "people like you" kind of talk.
Even in a PG environment, in just the past few years WWE has had a team of black dudes who had a gimmick of being thugs who stole stuff and sold it. It was allegedly a parody of how racists see black people, but that was dropped immediately and they were just thugs who stole stuff, but were the good guys.
Then you currently have R-Truth who has been doing a straight up minstrel character for the past 2 years. You also have Wrasslegaf favorite the Big Show who is an outright racist to the Mexican Alberto Del Rio and his announcer Ricardo Rodriguez. At least he's the bad guy. Before, John Cena and Sheamus were outright racist to them despite being the number one and two babyfaces. Let's not forget that Mark Henry has been billed as both the Silverback and King of the Jungle. There are STILL Samoan wrestlers who wear jungle prints, wear no shows, and have unimaginably thick craniums. Just a few weeks ago, CM Punk called the audience and WWE out for having Brodus Clay "shuck and jive" every week. Clay responded that he LIKED shucking and jiving.
If you go back a bit further, you can look at Booker T's entire career, basically. When Harlem Heat debuted in WCW, they came out in chains and were managed by a Southern man in a white suit. This was in the 90s. Over the years, his promo style was all jive talk and they were heels mostly because WCW was a Southern based company. Towards the end of WCW, people would cut promos about his jive talk, mother being food stamps, not knowing his father, and on and on. Once he went to WWE, he became a straight up buffoon and had a feud with HHH that was heavily focused on "people like you" kind of talk.
It's because we're considered animals. That "less than human" quality is how we're marketed. That or criminals. I remember the first time I saw a scene where they injected sounds of animals roaring and growling every time the black guy's face was shown. I couldn't believe it.
Yeah that is exactly as it comes off as, like the chick is one step above beastalty .
Yup. That's my biggest problem with this. I don't watch degrading, gonzo shit because it comes from a bad place. A lot of the interracial stuff comes from that place too. It's unpleasant, to say the least. And the terminology is disgusting especially for the cuckold stuff. If everyone involved is a willing participant I believe no one has any right to say stop it. It's still gross.
Eyes rolling back in her head, foaming at the mouth and having an seizure is not that big of a turn on.
No, but fetishes CAN be racist. Having a preference for a skin tone is not, but having a preference for a skin tone because of stereotypical qualities associated with that can be racist.
MWS Natural
Member
MONSTERS? Even though the porn industry sucks I don't think it's as bad as it was 5-10 years ago. I used to see more of the "Daddy I Fucked A N*GGER!!" and other BS porn that I do now. I don't think cuckold will ever die though, there are some people who are REALLY into that shit.
The Anti-Monitor
Banned
I'm not an expert on these things or anything, but I believe a mudshark is someone who has had sex with black guys and as such is worth less.
What's wrong with porn and the way it treats black guys is that a lot of it try to paint the black actor as some sort of monster ruining a pretty white girl.
Speaking of that, checking out the tubes and thing, I noticed that all of Lexi Belle's interracial scenes where back when she was starting except for a single one. I assume this is to somewhat keep the innocent teen image.
Angelus Errare
Banned
dave is ok
aztek is ok
They play the unsuspecting maid pretty often. They're still discriminated againstHispanic women
They're almost like white women
NEOPARADIGM
Banned
I find "ebony" to be rather classy & sexy.
Who watches wrestling for any sort of progressive social values or intellectual discourse?
What's your point?
If an industry is proudly built on aiming for the lowest common denominator, it having racism or other unsavory traits shouldn't shock or surprise anyone.
Should I not be upset that black performers are pigeonholed and stereotyped in wrestling?
You can be upset at whatever you want.
That's a relief. Your initial post on the matter made me think you were implying that because wrestling is low-brow, one shouldn't be aggrieved by its old-timey racism.
Didn't say it wasn't a problem. You're getting paid for a relatively easily job and the requirement is you only ripped in-front of the camera. There is always usually a trade-off for whatever 'career' you might want to partake in. I suggest he get a real job if he doesn't like it.
phosphor112
Banned
Everyone looks "colored" compared to Stoya, lol.
(interesting video of her talking about that stuff btw)
(interesting video of her talking about that stuff btw)
It holds up fine in non porno movies. Look at how many movies with non white locations/stories end up white washed. How many crappy sitcoms are all white and then maybe a token minority.
Who watches porn for any sort of progressive social values or intellectual discourse? Yet, here we are, in a thread asking if other industries profit from blatant racism. Are you suggesting that porn isn't built on the lowest common denominator? If we can discuss racism in porn, I think we can discuss racism in pro wrestling, which is (allegedly) marketed towards children and young adults.
Chittagong
Gold Member
A bigger question is that while I am not a stranger to adult video streaming sites, I can't remember ever seeing an Asian dude fuck anyone. Also, lots of guys I know in real life have Asian girlfriends, but I have never known a girl who dates an Asian guy. So, the question is, I suppose, where are all horny Asian men?
Angelus Errare
Banned
Mang this tag make me look like I'm racist against my own people D:
The Anti-Monitor
Banned
I saw a video not too long ago that started like a fight between two actors and the winner got to bang Lexi Belle, and he was an asian dude.
It was actually very cool.
Porn doesn't pretend to be anything more than it is. In theory it is not marketed towards children and the young, easily impressionable. Wrestling is, as you put it. So there's some degree of difference, regardless of how they are both low-brow.
Anticitizen One
Banned
didnt we just have this discussion in that other thread about the new movie?
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