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Maybe with a better CPU and the ssd it'll load Xbox one games instantly and on Xbox one X graphics levels, I'm starting to think Lockhart is actually a Xbox one X discless portableDoesn't make sense to me either....
Maybe with a better CPU and the ssd it'll load Xbox one games instantly and on Xbox one X graphics levels, I'm starting to think Lockhart is actually a Xbox one X discless portableDoesn't make sense to me either....
Could actually lead to some more exclusives on PS5, much like the PS2 days...
I think it's pretty clear to see what Lockhart will be by just looking at the current consoles and generalising somewhat...
Xbox One S = 1080p current gen
Xbox One X = 4K current gen
Lockhart = 1080p next gen
Anaconda = 4K next gen
If they both have the same SSD storage tech and the same CPU but with different GPU then games should scale really easily.
True, that's been the way I always rolled.The Companion console had been, and probably will be for many years to come, a Nintendo machine. Xbox would never beat Nintendo on being the "2nd console you buy".
Not enough people understand how possible this is. We may get to a point where 3rd party games are on PS5 and PC only.
And? It is hardly the first time a corporation makes a silly blunder. Just because a company is rich doesn't mean they don't make mistakes. Example: Stadia launch, by the giant Google.This is false. It makes no logical or business sense.
Or a better example would be Kinect and Tv Tv Tv always online, by Microsoft.And? It is hardly the first time a corporation makes a silly blunder. Just because a company is rich doesn't mean they don't make mistakes. Example: Stadia launch, by the giant Google.
Actually that's MS safety net , it will be hard to justify making the game for PC but not Scarlett
Or a better example would be Kinect and Tv Tv Tv always online, by Microsoft.
This isn't a case of misreading the market, this is a case of it being false because it wouldn't help Microsoft.
Big ole nothing. Lockheart is probably the preferred streaming device with XCloud.
With next gen consoles rumoured to be about £499, they kind of HAVE to make weaker/cheaper versions.
Unless you've been living under a rock for the past thirty years, you'll notice that average Joe does NOT like to spend a lot on consoles.
Could be a combo where you can either stream it or download it to play offline like how PSNow works.Why would you need 4TF for a streaming device?
We are talking about the same Microsoft who slowed down xone with that esram shit and a 500 price tag because of kinect 2...This is false. It makes no logical or business sense.
US and UK forgave MS pretty quickly. MS has those markets back already.They'll have to advertise HARD even in America to try hitting the Day 1/launch week totals here; for the rest of the world I don't think any amount of advertising'll help him maintain XBO's Day 1/launch week totals for Anaconda OR Lockhart, not when we know Sony has the mindshare in those places
It would. Making a mistake is a mistake, this would be self-harmingIt wouldn't be the first time MS did something that would benefit them.
Misreading the market is different to wilfully fucking up.We are talking about the same Microsoft who slowed down xone with that esram shit and a 500 price tag because of kinect 2...
Never understimate how out of touch a billionaire company can be (in general)
Could be a combo where you can either stream it or download it to play offline like how PSNow works.
Huh?Meaning that it would be what you was saying that it wasn't lol
I hope you are right.It would. Making a mistake is a mistake, this would be self-harming
Misreading the market is different to wilfully fucking up.
I'll give Microsoft the benefit of the doubt and say the only reason they would go through with this, is to make the Lockhart so cheap and powerful, that it can do full BC and they kill the Xbox One hardware off. Maybe Esram is costing a fortune?
Huh?
Smarmy little shit that one is.
HehehehehehheeSmarmy little shit that one is.
I have no idea what a Lockheart is. Everyone was saying it was a disc-less XB1. I said, maybe it's just a streaming device since MS was pushing XCloud so hard lately. Then you mention that it as a 4TF vid card. My conclusion based on new info is that it may not *just* be a streaming device, but something that can render something locally. Then I come full circle and hey, it might just be a disc-less XB1. Not quite sure why you're coming off snarky.You was saying that it was nothing & probably just the preferred way to stream games ,
I take that as you saying that it's not a cut down version of Scarlett & just a streaming box.
I have no idea what a Lockheart is. Everyone was saying it was a disc-less XB1. I said, maybe it's just a streaming device since MS was pushing XCloud so hard lately. Then you mention that it as a 4TF vid card. My conclusion based on new info is that it may not *just* be a streaming device, but something that can render something locally. Then I come full circle and hey, it might just be a disc-less XB1. Not quite sure why you're coming off snarky.
Do you think MS has any idea what it's doing? We all have to admit that this is stupid right?
Cool. You win. You're right.You just admitted to doing what I said , I'm not being snarky
Cool. You win. You're right.
My hold up is, is it REALLY next gen if its significantly less powerful than the PS5/Anaconda? It seems like a very unnecessary half step, especially with xbox one x existing.
I assume they have a vision / plan that they are working off. But I do wonder whether the vision / plan is consistently shared internally, consistently on solid ground internally, fluid or consistent, etc. And honestly, I have a lot of suspicions about whether their shared public sentiments are telling the whole story. The rumors that keep popping up, including those by Kotaku (I dislike some aspects of their the work, but I really, and I mean REALLLLLLLY doubt that JS would make up stuff like this), and their hiding sales numbers while trumpeting subscribers, engagement, etc., lead me to suspect as follows:
1) They are not abandoning hardware at all, at least not anytime soon.
2) They are not abandoning what we would call hardcore gamers either.
3) But services are their main future, and they are not giving anyone a chance to corner that market before they do.
4) In order to corner the services market and get returns on all these studio investments, my bet is they see rapid adoption of their platform by the casual market as vital.
5) My second level bet is that in order to see rapid adoption by the casual market, they plan to come out guns blazing on price while having enough processing chops to say this is next gen level upgrade over existing consoles, by primarily talking about cpu's in press.
6) And my third level bet is that they are going to dance a fine line of giving the appearance of focusing on hardcore gamers with blazing technology in Anaconda, using that platform for reveals, previews, etc., but have a retail chain and advertisements focused on Lockheart due to price.
Basically, I suspect that they see Lockheart's potential pricing as the key to xcloud cornering the streaming market faster than Google can hope for with Stadia. They love and appreciate people like us who post here, on ERA, etc., but they see us as a limited segment of the market (correctly), and won't focus only on us because we are limited in numbers compared to people who want $299 or less.
I assume they have a vision / plan that they are working off. But I do wonder whether the vision / plan is consistently shared internally, consistently on solid ground internally, fluid or consistent, etc. And honestly, I have a lot of suspicions about whether their shared public sentiments are telling the whole story. The rumors that keep popping up, including those by Kotaku (I dislike some aspects of their the work, but I really, and I mean REALLLLLLLY doubt that JS would make up stuff like this), and their hiding sales numbers while trumpeting subscribers, engagement, etc., lead me to suspect as follows:
1) They are not abandoning hardware at all, at least not anytime soon.
2) They are not abandoning what we would call hardcore gamers either.
3) But services are their main future, and they are not giving anyone a chance to corner that market before they do.
4) In order to corner the services market and get returns on all these studio investments, my bet is they see rapid adoption of their platform by the casual market as vital.
5) My second level bet is that in order to see rapid adoption by the casual market, they plan to come out guns blazing on price while having enough processing chops to say this is next gen level upgrade over existing consoles, by primarily talking about cpu's in press.
6) And my third level bet is that they are going to dance a fine line of giving the appearance of focusing on hardcore gamers with blazing technology in Anaconda, using that platform for reveals, previews, etc., but have a retail chain and advertisements focused on Lockheart due to price.
Basically, I suspect that they see Lockheart's potential pricing as the key to xcloud cornering the streaming market faster than Google can hope for with Stadia. They love and appreciate people like us who post here, on ERA, etc., but they see us as a limited segment of the market (correctly), and won't focus only on us because we are limited in numbers compared to people who want $299 or less.
He's just trying to stir controversy. I doubt he actually knows anything.
I don't think I'm wrong on the underlined when talking about lifetime sales, but at the same time I fully, 100% agree with you on your point. And I think MS agrees with us both too, hence the disparity between their public facing comments and all these rumors.I'm afraid that you might be on to something. And the underlined is just plain wrong. I'd argue that the first 18 months of a new console matters alot! And that's mostly bought by people like us on GAF. MS' whole push to putting every one of their games on PC also lends me to believe that your number 6 point will end up before the failure for Lockhart. There's literally ZERO reasons for Lockhart to exist if they can also sell their games on the PC via Steam and the Epic Store.
Like.....what casual even wants to buy a brand new "next-gen" console for $300 when they know it's not the real next-gen console?
Could actually lead to some more exclusives on PS5, much like the PS2 days...