Robb
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Yeah, sounds strange. I’d be surprised if they leave the ‘Switch’ brand in the dust.
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Korean leaker claims Switch 2 is currently known by the pseudonym 'Super Nintendo Play', uses game cards like original Switch...
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Badlucktroll
Member
No way they would call it the switch 2 or switch u or something. would confuse people like wii u did. its needs to be a new brand and have a new identity
scarlet0pimp
Member
The stuff I'm heading about the switch 2 is actually putting me off. I'm happy with the concept of a switch worth PS4 power. I don't want a 3 ds with removable screen that connects to your TV the dock solution is fine.
Robb
Gold Member
Not sure about that. WiiU is an outlier and suffered from more than just naming alone.
More often than not keeping the brand name has worked out for them (NES>SNES, GameBoy>GameBoy Color>GameBoy Advanced, DS>3DS).
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Wii U was an outlier.
Calling it the Switch 2, Super Switch or Switch somthing would work alot better than Wii to Wii U, because the Wii U seemed like it was an accessory for the Wii.
If a Switch 2 console comes out, its unlikely to confuse people the way the Wii U did.
I Love Rock 'n' Roll
Member
Great name for old Nintendo fans like me...I love it, but I'm not sure it's gonna work with the new generations. The Super Nintendo/Famicom color scheme was the best in gaming history so they cant' go wrong with it in my opinion. No dock... yeah shure, by default. Just like the new PS5, Nintendo is gonna make it a separate purchase to keep costs down. Phsycal media again? We all win!
I did not care at all about the actual Switch, but the new one seems to be something really cool!
I did not care at all about the actual Switch, but the new one seems to be something really cool!
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alucard0712_rus
Gold Member
2 SKU's will be nice
Lite without dock and Pro with OLED and dock will be excellent.
Lite without dock and Pro with OLED and dock will be excellent.
Zekra Dezivad
Member
Their home business was always hit and miss, but they never flopped with a portable machine
Shake Your Rump
Member
This just sounds like one of those fantasies…”uh yeah, it‘s called the Super Nintendo, has those cool coloured buttons and definitely uses game cards”
Robb
Gold Member
Who knows.
When I read it I was personally thinking more of something like the WiiU GamePad, which actually worked great and was extremely quick and responsive. If they’re going this route I’d hope they just put that same tech in a dongle you keep hooked to your TV.
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
I highly doubt that
Nintendo would never allow this
Neofire
Member
160M?Switch hits 160m and then Nintendo unleashes the Super Nintendo Play.
Robb
Gold Member
Sounds ridiculous, but they should actually end up fairly close. They’ll presumably be at 140M by March next year.160M?
SegaSnatcher
Member
How much added latency would a wireless video signal potentionally add? Even the best wireless controllers add at least 4ms. Not trying to add even more wireless lag.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
They should not get rid of Switch naming. Switch is brand by itself right now. Super Switch or something."The biggest..."
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YOU PC BRO?!
Member
if the rumoured front facing camera is anything to go by I would guess is Nintendo would want it unimpeded I.e. pointed at the player while plugged into a tv. I do find it hard to believe there would be no dock as no one wants to have to plug in an HDMI to the console every time they want to plug it into their tvs.
Melon Husk
Member
Using the handheld Wii U style + wireless receiver for TV ( proprietary of course, for video streaming and extra controllers) would be nice: if you really wanted a charging dock that would be an accessory. Easy way to get the dual-screen gimmick back.
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00_Zer0
Member
All I know is Nintendo wouldn't be stupid enough to give up the hybrid design that was made popular by the Switch. So it will be there, but in what form who knows? Maybe to save on costs Nintendo won't include a dock with the new console? Maybe they will create a new one for sale alongside the Switch 2 that has all the extra bells and whistles like extra usb connections and a ethernet connection, but it won't be required to connect to the TV? As others have suggested maybe it will connect wirelessly to your TV? If it's not wireless it could be that the new system has a basic stand engineered to fit the Switch 2 to sit on? If that's the case maybe the Switch 2 comes with USB-C to an HDMI cable and you can route it out the back of the stand? This way you the Switch 2 would have a direct connection between it and the TV. This would save on costs to get the Switch 2 out at a price consumers are more willing to swallow.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Also possible. We saw that with PS where Sony decided to sell a stand independently. Would not be surprised if they decided to sell the dock independently.
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Stafford
Member
OK that sounds fine to me. I just want this thing to give me a decent enough picture on my 65 inch Sony A95K. And when it comes to games like Mario Wonder Oddysey and a few others, it's fine, but once we get to big open world titles like Zelda it doesn't look so great anymore. Those games truly deserve much better hardware.
Deerock71
Member
Utterly. Worst. Name. Ever.
Robb
Gold Member
Agreed, for major titles like Zelda the Switch started showing its age years ago. I love the games but you’re basically free-climbing on textures that look like pixelated mud.
Badlucktroll
Member
would be pretty ill to have this color scheme
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yurinka
Member
I agree that with these 4 points they'll profit and be highly successful.
But I think Switch 2 won't be as successful as PS5 (or Switch 1) due to different reasons:
- I think that during the Switch 2 lifecycle PC handhelds will highly increase their market and will offer portable devices with similar pricing, more powerful hardware and the huge PC + emulators catalog, so won't be the only/best way to play portable indies
- I think that during the Switch 2 lifecycle consolidation will continue, so Nintendo may lose important former 3rd party partners because of Sony, MS, etc acquisitions
- I think as part of that consolidation, Sony and MS will get stronger and stronger with acquisitions and hirings than they were.
- I think that during the Switch 2 lifecycle game subs will become more important than now, so Nintendo may suffer from not having their own PS+/GP
- I think that during the Switch 2 lifecycle, AAA gaming on mobile, tablets and tv will be more common than now thanks to improvements on cloud gaming and also mobile hardware getting closer to consoles as we saw with the recent iPhones starting to get the first console AAA games
- VR/XR keeps being a relatively small market but keeps growing with exponential growth, meaning that during the Switch 2 lifecycle will end becoming an huge market
- If Switch 2 as concept is basically the same than Switch 1 but more powerful and BC (which I think is their best option), many people won't need to update or may have the 'Wii U issue" where some casual users won't get Switch 2 it's a next gen device but instead will understand it's only another Switch 1 SKU.
- MS will continue shifting away their focus from console hardware to game subs, mobile and PC and PS5 will continue increasing their marketshare against MS, so PS5 will be stronger than PS4 was as competitor for Nintendo
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drotahorror
Member
That person was castrated and put on pikes for the world to see. Fuck U Wii U name maker.
Omnipunctual Godot
Gold Member
Switch Super seems like the natural fit to me.
Omnipunctual Godot
Gold Member
Switch Super seems like the natural fit to me.
Edit: Double-posted due what seems to be to a bug.
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ManaByte
Gold Member
Nintendo is the gaming industry in Japan. It'll take a colossal fuck up to change that.
Robb
Gold Member
Nintendo: Hold my beer
ManaByte
Gold Member
As long as Miyamoto isn't developing a second controller with a screen on it, they'll be fine.
JohnnyPhats
Member
Boring. My cock rings charging cable uses frickin magnets!
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
I wish we'd get a Wii 2 that unlike the WiiU upgrades and elevates everything that system stood for but I guess that's not happening. The closest to that is the VR consoles like Meta Quest, but it's taking ages for the big companies to jump in VR and bring us serious and equally big games that can rival the likes of Red Steel 2 and Metroid Prime 3 in premise and elevate them beyond what they could be on the original Wii. Plus Nintendo isn't going to jump in as a third party to bring their own impeccable design and it probably won't be a VR console so we have to wait another gen for that.
Knightime_X
Member
No dock is kind of concerning, hardware power wise.
Nintendo is winning but still in 5th place in the IQ department.
Nintendo is winning but still in 5th place in the IQ department.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
The goat is making movies now. I doubt he even does much more than monthly checks on games.
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BootsLoader
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Nintendo Direct: “Ladies and gentlemen, today we are going to…..Switch….U!!!
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BootsLoader
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SwitchStation 2
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yurinka
Member
Japan is only a small portion of the global gaming market, doesn't matter if Nintendo is more popular there, or if Xbox is very popular in Mexico.
And well, as happens in the rest of the world, and even more in the case of Japan, the biggest gaming market of Japan in both players and revenue is mobile, not consoles.
Regarding consoles Sony sells way more games for their consoles (1st and 3rd party combined) than Nintendo worldwide every year and also have way more game subs subscribers, so Sony also makes way more money worldwide every year because the main business for console makers is to sell (1st+3rd party) games for their consoles, not hardware. Even if obviously to sell hardware it's very important because it's needed to sell games for it.
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Dorfdad
Gold Member
It could t be that they are going to go with the pillars strategy again is it? What if it’s simply a handheld with no tv out like the switch light. Than they offer you a Pro in 2 years with oled and or a home console version. Making you buy 2/3 variants to get a home and portable solution. It would be stupid but they might believe this increase hardware sales for them while reducing costs for the device since they are removing things.
But they need to just improve the switch and stick with this formula.
Also they me see all the competition now for a handheld and know they won’t match up and are going for something new and could ruin it all!
But they need to just improve the switch and stick with this formula.
Also they me see all the competition now for a handheld and know they won’t match up and are going for something new and could ruin it all!
Woopah
Member
A few thoughts from my side:
I agree that with these 4 points they'll profit and be highly successful.
But I think Switch 2 won't be as successful as PS5 (or Switch 1) due to different reasons:
Combining all this points, I think Sony will be way stronger in the Switch 2 vs PS5 fight compared to the Switch 1 vs PS4 fight.
- I think that during the Switch 2 lifecycle PC handhelds will highly increase their market and will offer portable devices with similar pricing, more powerful hardware and the huge PC + emulators catalog, so won't be the only/best way to play portable indies
- I think that during the Switch 2 lifecycle consolidation will continue, so Nintendo may lose important former 3rd party partners because of Sony, MS, etc acquisitions
- I think as part of that consolidation, Sony and MS will get stronger and stronger with acquisitions and hirings than they were.
- I think that during the Switch 2 lifecycle game subs will become more important than now, so Nintendo may suffer from not having their own PS+/GP
- I think that during the Switch 2 lifecycle, AAA gaming on mobile, tablets and tv will be more common than now thanks to improvements on cloud gaming and also mobile hardware getting closer to consoles as we saw with the recent iPhones starting to get the first console AAA games
- VR/XR keeps being a relatively small market but keeps growing with exponential growth, meaning that during the Switch 2 lifecycle will end becoming an huge market
- If Switch 2 as concept is basically the same than Switch 1 but more powerful and BC (which I think is their best option), many people won't need to update or may have the 'Wii U issue" where some casual users won't get Switch 2 it's a next gen device but instead will understand it's only another Switch 1 SKU.
- MS will continue shifting away their focus from console hardware to game subs, mobile and PC and PS5 will continue increasing their marketshare against MS, so PS5 will be stronger than PS4 was as competitor for Nintendo
- Both VR and PC handhelds would have to show a massive amount of growth to meaningly affect the console market. There's a fair chance Switch 2 sells more in its first month than the Steam Deck or ROG Ally sell in a year
- Its true that the Bethesda aquisiton takes some content away, but if the ABK acqusition means Switch 2 gets COD, then that acquisiton actually helps Nintendo
- I agree that mobile gaming could have an affect, or that people might not feel the need to upgrade, if Nintendo doesn't provide the right software
- I don't think game subs are going to meaningfully affect hardware sales, but they do give Sony as advantage in terms of profitability.
- Xbox moving their attention away from console means that both PlayStation and Nintendo increase market share, so it won't affect the battle between them too much
- We also have to take into account that Nintendo will be stronger than in the PS4 vs. Switch fight, due to noticeably bettrr third party support at launch and their own investments
Its a bit difficult to compare since Sony's numbers include digital-only titles and Ninendo's doesn't, but at the end of the day the PS4 and Switch will have broadly similar software sales (I'd estimate PS4 will end up around 100 million ahead, depending on whether Nintendo does cross-gen for Switch and Switch 2).
PS does have a far far higher number of subscribers though.
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Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Bunk, for sure.
Nintendo is not going to start the game of a new console with the name of a previous console.
It’ll either be a brand new name with no tie to any previous hardware, or it’ll be branded as a clear successor to Switch. Like Switch Advance or Super Switch or something like that.
Nintendo is not going to start the game of a new console with the name of a previous console.It’ll either be a brand new name with no tie to any previous hardware, or it’ll be branded as a clear successor to Switch. Like Switch Advance or Super Switch or something like that.
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GeekGuyWithGlasses
Neo Member
I just wish they threw some stronger hardware on this thing.
Then again,if people are happy with paying top price for subpar 30fps then who am I to tell them otherwise?
Then again,if people are happy with paying top price for subpar 30fps then who am I to tell them otherwise?