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[InfiniteCombo]

being an atheist on twitter is nothing revolutionary or brave.

Exactly. No offense FunkMiller , but bro you're behind the times.

Now, if they said on Twitter that Rivet was a Christian Fundamentalist or something, now that would've been brave, and the ensuing Twitter shit storm would've been entertaining.

This is all keeping in mind that we're still talking about a fictional, anthropomorphic digital animal

 

[ByWatterson]

Guys, I hate to be the one to tell you, but the other place is having a real one.

Sam Maggs Speaks Out After Insomniac Lead Designer Mark Stuart Dismisses Her & Rest Of Team's Contributions To Rivet During GDC Talk

Haha, you know what I meant. :p

www.resetera.com

 

[A.Romero]

Haven't play the game (Never played any Rachet games so far) why is the name Rivet such a big deal?

The fact that they keep hiring her for projects means that there is no discrimination. I mean, if person with a unique set of skills working in a very specific industry behaves this way she would probably be tagged and nobody would hire her. Still, she is still working on different projects so, in my mind, they are allowing her to fight for her causes.

 

[HTK]

Wow she sounds like a model person to work with.

 

[InfiniteCombo]

Haven't play the game (Never played any Rachet games so far) why is the name Rivet such a big deal?

The fact that they keep hiring her for projects means that there is no discrimination. I mean, if person with a unique set of skills working in a very specific industry behaves this way she would probably be tagged and nobody would hire her. Still, she is still working on different projects so, in my mind, they are allowing her to fight for her causes.

Precisely. All this complaining about "privilege," yet she has unthinkable amounts of privilege.

If I publicly went on Twitter with ANY (not even necessarily controversial) details of product development, my company would fire me IMMEDIATELY.

The fact that this lady seems so publicly unstable, and not only does she keep her job so she keeps getting hired for stuff... Now, THAT is privilege.

 

[Shmunter]

It’s her truth*

*not the actual truth

Words are violence, silence is violence, violence is violence

 

[Dirk Benedict]

Nope. But it's sure a tech sector thing to do. Gaming is probably the worst of them all. Manchildren.

There's probably 100x more people working at banks, or blue collar guys fixing roads and building new homes and apartments.

How often do you see them complain they didn't get their way in a meeting?

I want to see more Blue Collar worker memes on these fucks. They earn so much without doing much, or expenditure of personal energy.

Apologies, I was thinking about other things, got distracted.

Apologies Gaffers, im about to implode, leaving the forum, Temp

 

[Fbh]

Must be a nightmare trying to avoid these nutjobs in California.

It must be because as a (small) business owner I honestly don't get how anyone could hire people like these.

Doesn't matter what qualifications, education and skills they have. You just know sooner or later they'll be trouble

 

[Ezquimacore]

Stay woke Sony gay characters are more important than great games. And if you have gay characters in a great game that's even better than great games without great characters!

 

[balls of snow]

I don’t remember the story exactly but isn’t she just another universe version of him? Would be like fucking yourself.

 

[Alexios]

Out of all those posts and what caused them (an interview that acknowledged the content you wanna mock was great without giving credit to those involved in the creation) that's what you wanna focus on? Yikes. What's next, "it was cool of Capcom to remove Clover staff from Okami credits after they fucked off the company"?

 

[HTK]

Guys, I hate to be the one to tell you, but the other place is having a real one.

Sam Maggs Speaks Out After Insomniac Lead Designer Mark Stuart Dismisses Her & Rest Of Team's Contributions To Rivet During GDC Talk

Haha, you know what I meant. :p

www.resetera.com

Wtf is that place? I can't believe those people are real. Wow.

 

[demonstr8]

The people who write these kinds of tweets seriously need mental help. I am not even saying this is in a mean way, I seriously hope she gets out of her bubble of fallacies and drama and becomes a more stable person somehow. I don’t know what it is about the deign of twitter but it has clearly been a psychological cancer on people for years- I honestly think people need to stop using it because it feeds peoples egos in this fake and exacerbated way. It’s hard to articulate.

 

[Goalus]

Guys, I hate to be the one to tell you, but the other place is having a real one.

Sam Maggs Speaks Out After Insomniac Lead Designer Mark Stuart Dismisses Her & Rest Of Team's Contributions To Rivet During GDC Talk

Haha, you know what I meant. :p

www.resetera.com

Lol, this guy is also chiming in:




IIRC he complained (on Twitter as well) that the leadership wanted Rivet to look more feminine, but he managed to prevent that

 

[Unknown?]

Also bitches about not being acknowledged by her male colleagues.



Also claims she had to fight for Rivet to not be completely erased from the game.

Why would sexuality be in a kids game? She sounds like a groomer pedophile.

 

[daveonezero]

Why would sexuality be in a kids game? She sounds like a groomer pedophile.

The more I think of this topic the more gross j think the whole thing is.

There is no other explanation.

 

[Craig of War]

Ok and did anyone actually ask to know about that lol

 

[Pedro Motta]

Thank you Bernd Lauert for this amazing info.

Have a cookie.

 

[Dr. Claus]

Sam Maggs is a mentally ill cunt who is trying to virtue signal and insult/attack people, as per usual. Rivet is a complete nobody character that, aside from the character design, has *nothing* memorable about her. Her "sexuality" has zero bearing on anything in the title nor does it even need to be mentioned.

 

[It's all in the wrist]

Rivet is another bullshit Insomniac character lol. All of this drama over a fictional creature.

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

ok but what are rivet's views on the holocaust?

 

[Mibu no ookami]

One of my biggest problems is that people can rarely defend themselves on social media

Mark Stuart gains nothing by responding to this. Insomniac gains nothing by responding to this.

 

[ChiefDada]

 

[recursive]

Lol.

 

[Saucy Papi]

Guys, I hate to be the one to tell you, but the other place is having a real one.

Sam Maggs Speaks Out After Insomniac Lead Designer Mark Stuart Dismisses Her & Rest Of Team's Contributions To Rivet During GDC Talk

Haha, you know what I meant. :p

www.resetera.com

What a bunch of cucks.

 

[Saucy Papi]

Wtf is that place? I can't believe those people are real. Wow.

Lol, this guy is also chiming in:




IIRC he complained (on Twitter as well) that the leadership wanted Rivet to look more feminine, but he managed to prevent that

We need to bring back bullying. This is what happens when all those beta males stop getting their asses beat throughout high school.

 

[remember_spinal]

We need to bring back bullying. This is what happens when all those beta males stop getting their asses beat throughout high school.

Honestly, this is toxic as hell and absolutely true.

This is what people feared when they started giving out participation trophies

 

[dugdug]

So, just so I understand the timeline:

1. Sam Maggs decides to start all caps screaming on Twitter about how a guy who was summarizing a series of events doesn’t say her name a single time. She then says this means they’re ERASING her work. She then admits that it took her a year and a half to come up with the name.
2. IGN doesn’t even bother to look into this with Insomniac and *immediately* edits the article to say she came up with the name.
3. Usual suspects wuffles and Xavier, who have never had a consistent story, chime in with the usual “yaaaas queen.” Wuffles says they cried in Ted’s office as if this is something an employee should do.
4. Sam says she cried for *hours* every day, and would just walk around the office screaming “Lobax Titties!” but then says “I loved it there!” because these are just things we’ll-adjusted people do.
5. Female intern who was hired (something wuffles says never happened there because they HATE WOMEN) reminds Sam she had nothing to do with naming Rivet.
6. Sam walks it back (but still calls the current employee an intern)
7. Oh, and Rivet’s a lesbian which was obviously very important to the story. (imagine working on this family game and constantly having these three teammates always bringing up how fuckable Rivet is).

That about it?

 

[Closer]

I'm sorry...but from all this person posted on that thread...this is what you felt deserved a topic?

OP knew what they're doing. It's to expose the reverse-Resetera people we have here, the other side of the coin. We can clearly see who gives any fuck to this and those that gives way too many fucks and go full retard.

 

[remember_spinal]

So, just so I understand the timeline:

1. Sam Maggs decides to start all caps screaming on Twitter about how a guy who was summarizing a series of events doesn’t say her name a single time. She then says this means they’re ERASING her work. She then admits that it took her a year and a half to come up with the name.
2. IGN doesn’t even bother to look into this with Insomniac and *immediately* edits the article to say she came up with the name.
3. Usual suspects wuffles and Xavier, who have never had a consistent story, chime in with the usual “yaaaas queen.” Wuffles says they cried in Ted’s office as if this is something an employee should do.
4. Sam says she cried for *hours* every day, and would just walk around the office screaming “Lobax Titties!” but then says “I loved it there!” because these are just things we’ll-adjusted people do.
5. Female intern who was hired (something wuffles says never happened there because they HATE WOMEN) reminds Sam she had nothing to do with naming Rivet.
6. Sam walks it back (but still calls the current employee an intern)
7. Oh, and Rivet’s a lesbian which was obviously very important to the story. (imagine working on this family game and constantly having these three teammates always bringing up how fuckable Rivet is).

That about it?

Edit—-

You forgot to mention the whole, “insomniac tried to push titties on rivet and it made all of us women super uncomfortable” narrative that was also shot down by the other female employee who says they actually felt uncomfortable with her tantrums

 

[MarkMe2525]

If it's not on the page, or the screen, it doesn't exist in the media. If pen isn't put to paper, "Canonical" matters about as much as fan fiction.

This is also true for IP that takes place over various forms of media, IMO. I don't care what happened in the Halo books. If it's not a part of the story in the game, it's not a part of the game's story. None of that matters. If you want something to matter, put it in the actual book, or movie, or game.

I'm confused

 

[teezzy]

The icing on the cake is her tweet to an intern who called her out about who came up with the name is saying to pass on her saying hi to the team. That's how much of a fucking mess someone is that they don't stay in contact with any work colleagues. Roaring out lomax tiddies at work colleagues is sackable in almost every place of employment.

Game development really is a corporate hell hole eh?

 

[Clear]

Bill Hicks explained this so long ago: Fevered Egos.

Seriously, lead writer throws lead designer under the bus because of... an interview. (somewhere).

Like, how much of a narcissist do you have to be to go off on a Twitter rant over... what? Exactly?
What sort of "professional" shit-talks their co-workers on social media?

The giveaway for me is the "undermining" thing. I literally cannot imagine a scenario where a lead writer would not be below a lead designer in the hierarchy of dev. She's not the fucking game director. The way she's putting it across is that this guy somehow "sabotaged" her vision, when even if the guy is a total dickhead, him disagreeing with her on creative matters is perfectly legit.

If there was any sort of personal animus between them, the same thing applies. Like any other job, some people you get along with better than others. Some people are more on your wavelength than others...

What she's saying is horrifically unprofessional. Beyond the pretty unpleasant intent of trying a colleague in the court of public opinion, its just so arrogant and presumptuous for somebody in her position on the team.

What's especially galling is the twist of the knife in the "this is the reality of being a woman in this industry". Not only does that imply misogyny, but the sheer fucking hubris of thinking that what's happened to her hasn't happened in the past to other people of both sexes!

Fevered Ego.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

Guys, I hate to be the one to tell you, but the other place is having a real one.

Sam Maggs Speaks Out After Insomniac Lead Designer Mark Stuart Dismisses Her & Rest Of Team's Contributions To Rivet During GDC Talk

Haha, you know what I meant. :p

www.resetera.com

 

[Woggleman]

These people are utterly insufferable. They ruin the energy of a room by their mere presence.

 

[Huevos de Oro]

It's to expose the reverse-Resetera people we have here, the other side of the coin.

ReversEra

 

[Closer]

ReversEra

NeoGAF is fine tho.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Strange considering the lack of lombaxes in the world lol

Good point. Can you really be a lesbian if you’re the only female of your species?

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Yes, I must say I feel attracted to women.

As am I

How empty must this woman's life be to get agitated on the Internet about the sexual orientation of a:

1. Fictional
2. Digital
3. Anthropomorphic
4. Animal

As many others have already said in the thread, she actually sounds very unstable.

LGBT-GAF, this woman (and people like her) is doing your cause NO favors.

I mean as long as they aren't Noelle Stevenson levels it should be fine. It's fine.

 

[Corndog]

I don't know when it happened,. but Sony is pretty much Reset Era the videogame company. They went from my favorite video gaming company to some weird SJW task force that needs to force fit some sort of sexual agenda or masculine women into video games at every opportunity.

It’s called California.

 

[LegendOfKage]

I'm confused

If something happens in a book, it's not part of the game's storyline. That's the point I'm trying to make. People shouldn't have to view another type of media for your story to make sense or for them to get the full picture. And for something to be part of a story or character, it has to exist either in the media in question, or only as a possibility or possible interpretation. You're welcome to disagree, but does that make sense to you as an opinion many people likely have?

 

[decisions]

of course she is....
The characters in that game lacked any sort of edge. It's full disney boring goody2shoes.
It was like that even in the ps4 game. They took all the edge away andmade everything else super dumb kids friendly. Not the 90s kids who were rad. But disney idiot kids.

Yeah I really hate how cookie-cutter and boring the tone of the games has become. The original feels like it is from a different series.

Any Sacred Symbols listeners get pissed when Colin says the tone of the newer games is better?

 

[MarkMe2525]

If something happens in a book, it's not part of the game's storyline. That's the point I'm trying to make. People shouldn't have to view another type of media for your story to make sense or for them to get the full picture. And for something to be part of a story or character, it has to exist either in the media in question, or only as a possibility or possible interpretation. You're welcome to disagree, but does that make sense to you as an opinion many people likely have?

I was ribbing you. I understood your comment. You left yourself open with those two statements one sentence apart.

 

[Moonjt9]

This chick crazy. Wouldn’t be surprised if this is all victimhood fantasy conjured in her head. Those tweets are INSANE. Does she want sympathy for being yelled at because she was a nut job employee? Not from me.

 

[gow3isben]

Looks like Insomniac finally divulged what everyone in the world was waiting for.

Now if only the other 1,000 game studios the past 40 years across 10,000 games could tell gamers if their characters are straight or lesbian, the world would be a better place.

I hope Insomniac doesn't take their foot off the gas pedal. Next stops are bi and trans characters. Can't be limited only having straight and lesbian.

Still waiting for Imagic to tell gamers if the archer on top of the castle in Dragonfire is gay.

Don't equate this nutjob to Insomniac they clearly wanted to be rid of her and her ilk

 

[Corndog]

Also, isn’t this the same unstable bitch working on KOTOR Remake?

Her website says she quit after 9 months.

 

[Calling 911 Melts Beams]

I can fix her

 

[Dr. Claus]

So, just so I understand the timeline:

1. Sam Maggs decides to start all caps screaming on Twitter about how a guy who was summarizing a series of events doesn’t say her name a single time. She then says this means they’re ERASING her work. She then admits that it took her a year and a half to come up with the name.
2. IGN doesn’t even bother to look into this with Insomniac and *immediately* edits the article to say she came up with the name.
3. Usual suspects wuffles and Xavier, who have never had a consistent story, chime in with the usual “yaaaas queen.” Wuffles says they cried in Ted’s office as if this is something an employee should do.
4. Sam says she cried for *hours* every day, and would just walk around the office screaming “Lobax Titties!” but then says “I loved it there!” because these are just things we’ll-adjusted people do.
5. Female intern who was hired (something wuffles says never happened there because they HATE WOMEN) reminds Sam she had nothing to do with naming Rivet.
6. Sam walks it back (but still calls the current employee an intern)
7. Oh, and Rivet’s a lesbian which was obviously very important to the story. (imagine working on this family game and constantly having these three teammates always bringing up how fuckable Rivet is).

That about it?

This needs to be stickied and posted in the OP.

 

[Insane Metal]

Damn now this is running for GOTY.

 

[Shits_McGiggles]

How can someone write those tweets and think, “Yeah, I’m the sane one here.”