Mass Shift
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I haven't played many 90 Hour games from Sony or MS actually
Hellblade was AA just like most of the games from their new studios will be. Hellblade 2 might even be AAWTF. He said the EXACT opposite. Well crafted high quality games with a great story and detail, like hellblade.
What are you talking about? Did you even watch the video? Ffs
Yup, just like Ori and the blind forest. Another one of those mediocre AA gamesMore Game Pass, mediocre, 68 on Metacritic, forgettable games from XBox next gen?
Ok. we already know that we will have 100 titles of 89h and also
We don't know how much Dreams was to develop in the 1st placeI think MS wants to be profitable. Just look at Dreams. Like 5 years in development and just 1500 sold copies in Japan in the first week and not even in the top 20 of NPD...
It’s just not worth it if you lose so much money in a game.
The thing I like about MS's 1st party approach is there is a lot of diversity. They've got the 1st/3rd person shooters (Halo/Gears),open world wrpg (The Outer Worlds),new Fable by Playground, Racing Forza Motorsport/Horizon, CRPG(Wasteland 3) adventure (EverWild),2D platformer (Ori and the Will of the Wisp),Strategy(Age of Empires),Zomie game (State of Decay),Horror (Hellblade 2)platformer (Physchonauts 2)etc....
Whether Hellblade 2 is AA or AAA, it'll be a very good game. Hellblade was a GOTY contender. Ninja Theory can make AAA games. They've done it in the past. There's no reason to assume they won't in the future. They're around 80 devs I believe. And whats to a sony fanboy like you anyway? Why are you in here if u hate Xbox? Is your life that uninteresting? Go play your precious PS exclusives.Hellblade was AA just like most of the games from their new studios will be. Hellblade 2 might even be AA
We don't know how much Dreams was to develop in the 1st place
True. Those certain people are not even gamers. They're people with low IQ's, no lives doing free adverstising for big corporations. An intelligent person realizes that competition is good for several reasons. Creates more jobs, produces more great games and we gamers can never complain about wanting more great games.We both know, that no matter what games they produce and good they are, they will never be as good in the eyes of certain people.
Hellblade was just ok IMO and 80 devs even sounds like an AA productionWhether Hellblade 2 is AA or AAA, it'll be a very good game. Hellblade was a GOTY contender. Ninja Theory can make AAA games. They've done it in the past. There's no reason to assume they won't in the future. They're around 80 devs I believe. And whats to a sony fanboy like you anyway? Why are you in here if u hate Xbox? Is your life that uninteresting? Go play your precious PS exclusives.
MM is a very small studio but okA crap load
Even just 5 years payroll for a company the size of MM would be a butt load. Plus all the other company expenses.
Ninja Theory is 120 people according to Wikipedia. They're split up working on multiple projects right now.Hellblade was just ok IMO and 80 devs even sounds like an AA production
And I don't hate Xbox, I hate their focus on gamepass, there's a difference
12 tflops of power but with no exclusives, and those by MS are going to be smaller-scale, mediocre Gamepass productions. You couldn't make it up.
Sea of Thieves and its criminal lack of content at launch, and budget title Crackdown 3 were the start of this new philosophy. The next Forza is going to be basically the same game as last gen upscaled to 4k with a few extras, Halo has already been pared back as it's not cost effective to put the budget into these titles.
It's obvious. You don't get a free lunch. Gamepass is so cheap something has to pay for it somewhere. The first realization is that Gamepass titles are light experiences, the second is when the price of Gamepass increases.
Yup, just like Ori and the blind forest. Another one of those mediocre AA games
I dont think Booty knows whats hes talking about.
But he probably means Hellblades.
I think I understand what he was trying to say, but I don’t think he chose his words very carefully here
They saod officially that only something like 15 people made dreams alone. So not that bad at all.A crap load
Even just 5 years payroll for a company the size of MM would be a butt load. Plus all the other company expenses.
We both know, that no matter what games they produce and good they are, they will never be as good in the eyes of certain people.
Hellblade was just ok IMO and 80 devs even sounds like an AA production
And I don't hate Xbox, I hate their focus on gamepass, there's a difference
Reading through the post, I think he should be replaced because he doesn't know what he's saying.
It's about the mix of games you can have, and that the quality is high for AA as well as AAA. It's for the AAA games that you buy the XSX, but don't give me this bullshit that all games om Xbox were mediocre and shit... That's like saying every game on Playstation is a walking/dad simulator...If you like that you can play it on an Xbox 360 (or old PC). Why does anyone need a 12tflop $500 Series X?
Who has time to read through 7 pages in a thread about a console they hate? Aren't you Sony guys supposed to be really busy playing exclusives or something?
10-15 hours for a $60 game when you can get dozens out of a more replayable RPG isn't really something I agree with.no idea what hes saying here. only the witcher 3 is a 90 hour AAA game. most games top out at 30-50 hours. RDR2, GoW, TLOU2, Horizon etc are in that range.
I am ok with an 8-10 hour campaign. nothing wrong with that. But i think hes saying we wont even have that. I dont want Hellblade quality AAA games from them. I want something like Uncharted or the PS3 god of war games. 10-15 hours max is fine with me.
Yeah alot are playing that exclusive Nioh 2. Between Playing Nioh 2 and Animal crossing its good to come online at times and tell the xbox fan boys whats important.... Games.
While they praise about how good there 12tfp machine is and how weak the PS5 is.
Do you want some games to play??
But I've been playing Ori and Animal Crossing too. Ori scoring higher than Ni Oh 2 btw so what's your point again?
Well hellblade, phychonaughts and outerworlds were all bought recently. Not like the xbox had them rolling in this current gen.
You must see the difference between Halo, Gears, crackdown and seaof thieves with Sony and Nintendo’s exclusives?
Good point, but again you cant compare the amount of exclusives and the variety and quantity. If you can even call Ori a exclusive. Ill play it on my laptop lol
It's about the mix of games you can have, and that the quality is high for AA as well as AAA. It's for the AAA games that you buy the XSX, but don't give me this bullshit that all games om Xbox were mediocre and shit... That's like saying every game on Playstation is a walking/dad simulator...
Sure play it on your laptop, your Game Boy color or whatever, that's exactly what MS wants you to do. More $$$ to them.
Also once again it's on Xbox, not on Playstation and scoring higher than 90% of your PS exclusives. That's the point. Bye.
The thing I like about MS's 1st party approach is there is a lot of diversity. They've got the 1st/3rd person shooters (Halo/Gears),open world wrpg (The Outer Worlds),new Fable by Playground, Racing Forza Motorsport/Horizon, CRPG(Wasteland 3) adventure (EverWild),2D platformer (Ori and the Will of the Wisp),Strategy(Age of Empires),Zomie game (State of Decay),Horror (Hellblade 2)platformer (Physchonauts 2)etc....
https://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/hellblade-senuas-sacrifice - 88 metacritic.
If Hellblade was just ok what would you describe games like Infamous, Death Stranding, Days Gone, Ratchet & Clank, Ni-Oh, The Last Guardian, Gravity Rush, Killzone and 80% of the other PS4 exclusives that scored lower? Don't tell there's only a handful of more than okay PS4 games ..
I think I understand what he was trying to say, but I don’t think he chose his words very carefully here
Coalition, Playground, 343i, The Initiative, Turn 10 Studios and Ninja Theory (maybe) all have budgets to create AAA games. They just also have studios that develop AA games. Why is it so bad that they would actually have a range of stuff, and not just only AAA titles.This is not about what's been on Xbox years ago, it's about their new strategy with the Gamepass-effect of shorter, smaller games being pumped out to keep them subs rolling in. My issue is this - we've got the indie marketplace on old gen consoles and PC where we all can enjoy these indie and AA experiences for years. There's a place for it already and thats great. But Series X with its specs should be trying to compete with PS5's big productions that move the needle, push boundaries for console gaming and strive for GotY greatness, otherwise what is the point?
Of the games coming to Series X, only Halo seems to me like an AAA project, but Halo is a tired franchise, so it's not exciting to many on the PS platform (you should be pushing MS to produce new AAA I.Ps).
Yep and the most telling sentence he said was "what we want to do is take the State of Decay franchise from Undead Labs and help them turn it into a AAA game" (Paraphrased)The interview is from August 2019(not recent) and specifically about Double Fine and Ninja Theory not XGS as a whole. Hellblade II is made by 100 person team and will be never be 90 hours long anyway, 20 hours at most. I am going to watch the whole video now.
You will also see Obsidan turned into a AAA studio with extra resources from MS.Coalition, Playground, 343i, The Initiative, Turn 10 Studios and Ninja Theory (maybe) all have budgets to create AAA games. They just also have studios that develop AA games. Why is it so bad that they would actually have a range of stuff, and not just only AAA titles.
Its not on gameboy colour....but considering Microsoft are saying they wont be making much triple A exclusives for there 2nd $500+ machine in 3 years then maybe the games will be more suited for gameboy colour?? But for people who dont want to pay that for another console, they can play those games on a cheap laptop. Something you cant do with Playstation and Nintendo.
MS wants to sell consoles and games lets not pretend any different that It sold of HALF of PS4.
You enjoy Ori fella. Ill be playing games like God of War 2, Spider-Man 2, Naughty Dogs next game, Probably a Miyazaki Exclusive and a bunch fo smaller games too. Carry on pretending
The playtime isn't what defines AAA. UC4 > Sea of thieves you get what I mean? Its not a good sign when corporate guys say things like ''as close to AAA as possible''. Disappointing if Xbox is going to use 12 teraflops to render Sea of thieves 2.By 90 hour he meant for campaign(in games like Halo Infinite) or main story(for RPGs).
If that is gamepass filler, than so are all SIE games(none of them took 90 hours). Halo Infinite/Hellblade II would be 20 hour at most.
Anything more than 50 hours for the main story of a RPG is a drag. Obsidian's narrative style does not fit that anyway.
if you dont see the difference then just lol
Halo Gears Forza .... Sea of Thieves and Ori and Crackhead 3.. Enjoy. Lol
Its not on gameboy colour....but considering Microsoft are saying they wont be making much triple A exclusives for there 2nd $500+ machine in 3 years then maybe the games will be more suited for gameboy colour?? But for people who dont want to pay that for another console, they can play those games on a cheap laptop. Something you cant do with Playstation and Nintendo.
MS wants to sell consoles and games lets not pretend any different that It sold of HALF of PS4.
You enjoy Ori fella. Ill be playing games like God of War 2, Spider-Man 2, Naughty Dogs next game, Probably a Miyazaki Exclusive and a bunch fo smaller games too. Carry on pretending
I thought it was cool they were going more AA, but booty said they are pushing everyone towards AAA. AAA means focus tested kill kill kill games aimed at attention deficient teens, so booo.
Hellblade got MC bump because “ooooo, dis is a game about bootstrapping mental illness away + progressive themes.”
These things appeal to people who have no experience with actual, irl debilitating mental illness; and those that do find gamefying real life pain distasteful. A game about mental illness that actually meant something would have to transmit feelings like the terror of being rejected for disability because you were not ‘disabled enough’ and staring down the possibility of being homeless; the process of finding a med cocktail that allows to get up in the morning that you can actually pay for; losing all your friends because you are a downer or uncomfortably weird; or having to explain to potential employers the five year break in employment history; or the actual hellish pain that drives some to override the most powerful instinct we have: self preservation.
Treating debilitating Mental illness has nothing to do with being a cool looking hot chick warrior stabbing illness away. Stupid exploitative game is stupid and exploitative.
What kind of brain diarrhea is this? Bro I slam dunked with your own stupid arguments now you're hurt ?
Keep on posting lists of imaginary games btw. Xbox will have Halo Infinite, HellBlade 2, Everwild, Forza Motorsport 8, Playgrounds AAA RPG, Oblivions AAA RPG, The Initiative's AAA game and more. Straight facts.
Now go back to whatever basement you came from.
Its not on gameboy colour....but considering Microsoft are saying they wont be making much triple A exclusives for there 2nd $500+ machine in 3 years then maybe the games will be more suited for gameboy colour?? But for people who dont want to pay that for another console, they can play those games on a cheap laptop. Something you cant do with Playstation and Nintendo.
MS wants to sell consoles and games lets not pretend any different that It sold of HALF of PS4.
You enjoy Ori fella. Ill be playing games like God of War 2, Spider-Man 2, Naughty Dogs next game, Probably a Miyazaki Exclusive and a bunch fo smaller games too. Carry on pretending
Maybe it doesn't have to be that deep..? Maybe the game wasn't intending to be what you're describing at all..?
It's a videogame, a very good one at that exploring the topic of mental illness. and that's perfectly fine.