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Media Create Sales: Week 10, 2015 (Mar 02 - Mar 08)

E

Earthpainting

Member
duckroll said:
Here's a comparison between first week sales of Mysterious Dungeon games from 2006 to 2015 (Media Create numbers):

2006:
Shounen Yangus (PS2) - 127,502
Shiren DS (DS) - 88,242

2007:
Pokemon Dungeon Explorers of Time/Darkness (DS) - 568,888
Chocobo Dungeon (Wii) - 40,580

2008:
Shiren 3 (Wii) - 59,283
Shiren DS2 (DS) - 45,327
Chocobo Dungeon+ (DS) - 26,190

2009:
POkemon Dungeon Explorers of Sky (DS) - 141,771

2010:
Shiren 4 (DS) - 40,703
Shiren 5 (DS) - 25,192
Shiren 3 Portable (PSP) - 10,227

2012:
Pokemon Dungeon Gates to Infinity (3DS) - 121,480
Shiren 4 (PSP) - 6,368

2015:
Etrian Mysterious Dungeon (3DS) - 65,226
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Yikes, I had no idea the Shiren brand took such a dirve. Etrian Mysterious Dungeon performed very well all things considered. Dragon Quest Heroes held on decently too.
 
D

Darius

Banned
Code: 
PSV	|	2014	|	2015	|		
week 1	|	75.400	|	58.005	|	Down	23,1
week 2	|	32.016	|	22.327	|	Down	30,3
week 3	|	26.963	|	17.505	|	Down	35,1
week 4	|	23.290	|	15.580	|	Down	33,1
week 5	|	22.246	|	12.392	|	Down	44,3
week 6	|	18.282	|	10.573	|	Down	42,2
week 7	|	18.348	|	11.489	|	Down	37,4
week 8	|	18.240	|	35.934	|	Up	97,0
week 9	|	23.124	|	24.457	|	Up	5,8
week 10	|	33.287	|	20.378	|	Down	38,8
 
Hellraider

Hellraider

Member
Kresnik258 said:
I don't think it'll sell well on Vita, but I don't think a 3DS port of a 2010 DS game (which is already compatible with 3DS) would sell any better.
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Exactly. Shiren 5 port is stupid for both of these reasons. Platform choice and the fact that it exists.
 
S

Sammy Samusu

Member
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[Wii] Dragon Quest X V3 - 25pt

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J

Javin98

Banned
Hopefully the PS4 can maintain that momentum throughout the year with the release of more JRPG's. So 50K for the week Bloodborne releases?
 
D

duckroll

Member
Hellraider said:
Exactly. Shiren 5 port is stupid for both of these reasons. Platform choice and the fact that it exists.
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I don't think it's stupid really. There's no downside to it. The game already exists, and if they can even ship 10k, it's extra money for minimal work. It's not like the alternative is that they could have released another better selling game. The team was working on EOMD. Between releasing nothing and releasing a port, the port is always the right choice as long as it doesn't eat into resources for other things.
 
A

Alrus

Member
DQH still selling well, and keeping the PS4 high, that's really nice.

EOMD opened much higher than I expected, nice to see the EO brand showing no big signs of brand fatigue.
 
C

casiopao

Member
duckroll said:
Here's a comparison between first week sales of Mysterious Dungeon games from 2006 to 2015 (Media Create numbers):

2006:
Shounen Yangus (PS2) - 127,502
Shiren DS (DS) - 88,242

2007:
Pokemon Dungeon Explorers of Time/Darkness (DS) - 568,888
Chocobo Dungeon (Wii) - 40,580

2008:
Shiren 3 (Wii) - 59,283
Shiren DS2 (DS) - 45,327
Chocobo Dungeon+ (DS) - 26,190

2009:
POkemon Dungeon Explorers of Sky (DS) - 141,771

2010:
Shiren 4 (DS) - 40,703
Shiren 5 (DS) - 25,192
Shiren 3 Portable (PSP) - 10,227

2012:
Pokemon Dungeon Gates to Infinity (3DS) - 121,480
Shiren 4 (PSP) - 6,368

2015:
Etrian Mysterious Dungeon (3DS) - 65,226
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Wow in this case, Etrian Dungeon looks damn good especially when we see how EO Untold 2 is underperforming and Shiren series is kinda dead.

Hope with this, will be able to build both the series fanbase and sales in future.^_^
 
F

Freedom = $1.05

Banned
Pardon my ignorance but why exactly is japan still buying decent amounts of Vitas? Are they just into Monhun clones that much? I know there's kind of a VN scene for it that's a bit fanservicey but i'm struggling to think about what exactly is allowing the vita to maintain some steam in japan.
 
F

fahr

Member
Any chance that the huge drop for dqh is due to being supply constrained, or is it really that front loaded?
 
small44

small44

Member
Freedom = $1.05 said:
Pardon my ignorance but why exactly is japan still buying decent amounts of Vitas? Are they just into Monhun clones that much? I know there's kind of a VN scene for it that's a bit fanservicey but i'm struggling to think about what exactly is allowing the vita to maintain some steam in japan.
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It just had God eater too week ago and already below last year,Vita is doing bad
 
D

duckroll

Member
fahr said:
Any chance that the huge drop for dqh is due to being supply constrained, or is it really that front loaded?
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It's still selling out as they reship, just like MM3D, but it is probably not having a huge impact on limiting sales significantly like with EOMD's opening, where there is clearly much more demand than supply. One Piece Musou sold 655k in the first week and 90k in the second week, so this is already doing better in comparison.
 
H

hiska-kun

Member
Zelda Majora's Mask VS A Link Between Worlds

Code: 
------------------------------------------------------------- 
|    |   Majora's Mask   |Link Between Worlds|  Difference  | 
|    | [3DS] (2015/02/14)| [3DS] (2013/12/26)|              | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| 
|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   |    MM – LBW  | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| 
|  1 |  230.065|  230.065|  224.143|  224.143|         5.922| 
|  2 |   72.181|  302.246|   73.072|  297.216|         5.030| 
|  3 |   39.751|  341.997|   26.286|  323.502|        18.495|  
|  4 |   23.764|  365.761|   17.897|  341.398|        24.363| 
|  5 |         |         |   15.095|  356.494|              |
|  6 |         |         |   10.048|  366.541|              |
|  7 |         |         |    6.105|  372.647|              |
|  8 |         |         |    4.785|  377.432|              |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|Year|   YTD   |   LTD   |   YTD   |   LTD   |  Difference  | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|   
|Total|       -|  365.761|        -|  430.000|       -64.239|      
-------------------------------------------------------------

Extra LTD:

[3DS] The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D (Nintendo) {2011.06.16} (¥4.800) - 576.896
 
small44

small44

Member
duckroll said:
It's still selling out as they reship, just like MM3D, but it is probably not having a huge impact on limiting sales significantly like with EOMD's opening, where there is clearly much more demand than supply. One Piece Musou sold 655k in the first week and 90k in the second week, so this is already doing better in comparison.
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Is it normal drop for big IP like Dragon quest
 
C

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
duckroll said:
It's still selling out as they reship, just like MM3D, but it is probably not having a huge impact on limiting sales significantly like with EOMD's opening, where there is clearly much more demand than supply. One Piece Musou sold 655k in the first week and 90k in the second week, so this is already doing better in comparison.
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From what I read supply problems were only for PS3 version and that was restocked at the end of the week. i doubt supply played any big part at this week's DQH sales.
 
D

duckroll

Member
small44 said:
Is it normal drop for big IP like Dragon quest
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It varies but it's not unusual. Comparison with some other spinoffs:

Dragon Quest Swords (Wii): 305,254 -> 53,057 (-82%)
Dragon Quest Monster Battle Road (Wii): 135,783 -> 35,795 (-71%)
Dragon Quest Monsters (3DS): 513,183 -> 83,329 (-84%)
Dragon Quest Monsters 2 (3DS): 443,656 -> 118,427 (-73%)

Dragon Quest Heroes (PS3/PS4): 594.749 -> 102.939 (-82%)
 
F

Frodo

Member
Surprised at PS4 numbers. Not great, but considering the current landscape, it almost feels like something we should be happy about. :)

Nice that Smash Bros and Mario Kart are still (barely) charting. Nintendo should release a SB4 + MK8 Wii U bundle. Get those titles to pass 1 million in Japan at least.
 
S

SmokyDave

Member
That's three weeks in a row for Sony hardware over Nintendo hardware.

I've no idea why the Vita is still nudging 20k though. A pleasant mystery.
 
W

wmlk

Member
duckroll said:
Here's a comparison between first week sales of Mysterious Dungeon games from 2006 to 2015 (Media Create numbers):

2006:
Shounen Yangus (PS2) - 127,502
Shiren DS (DS) - 88,242

2007:
Pokemon Dungeon Explorers of Time/Darkness (DS) - 568,888
Chocobo Dungeon (Wii) - 40,580

2008:
Shiren 3 (Wii) - 59,283
Shiren DS2 (DS) - 45,327
Chocobo Dungeon+ (DS) - 26,190

2009:
POkemon Dungeon Explorers of Sky (DS) - 141,771

2010:
Shiren 4 (DS) - 40,703
Shiren 5 (DS) - 25,192
Shiren 3 Portable (PSP) - 10,227

2012:
Pokemon Dungeon Gates to Infinity (3DS) - 121,480
Shiren 4 (PSP) - 6,368

2015:
Etrian Mysterious Dungeon (3DS) - 65,226
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Just need more PMD games. Those games are incredible.
 
P

Pennywise83

Banned
duckroll said:
I'll carry over an ongoing discussion in the previous thread here:


We shouldn't just look at EOMD increasing over Untold 2. That is actually less relevant. I think it's more interesting to compare EOMD with other MD games. This is the best opening for MD games for a long time. The only remotely recent ones which have done better are the Pokemon MD games (huge brand), the first DS Shiren. Not worth mentioning the older stuff because it was a different era back then.

This definitely shows that EO is still a brand which has strong value, because MD has shown that as Shiren alone, it can't bring in the numbers anymore, but this definitely could hold its own.
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Indeed, this shows that EO fanbase is still able to carry some nice numbers. It'd be interesting to see whether Chunsoft has some serious plans for reviving the MD IP.

duckroll said:
It varies but it's not unusual. Comparison with some other spinoffs:

Dragon Quest Swords (Wii): 305,254 -> 53,057 (-82%)
Dragon Quest Monster Battle Road (Wii): 135,783 -> 35,795 (-71%)
Dragon Quest Monsters (3DS): 513,183 -> 83,329 (-84%)
Dragon Quest Monsters 2 (3DS): 443,656 -> 118,427 (-73%)

Dragon Quest Heroes (PS3/PS4): 594.749 -> 102.939 (-82%)
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DQM3D was having shortages in its second week, but yes, this drop is quite typical for a DQ game.
 
C

casiopao

Member
hiska-kun said:
Zelda Majora's Mask VS A Link Between Worlds

Code: 
------------------------------------------------------------- 
|    |   Majora's Mask   |Link Between Worlds|  Difference  | 
|    | [3DS] (2015/02/14)| [3DS] (2013/12/26)|              | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| 
|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   |    MM – LBW  | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| 
|  1 |  230.065|  230.065|  224.143|  224.143|         5.922| 
|  2 |   72.181|  302.246|   73.072|  297.216|         5.030| 
|  3 |   39.751|  341.997|   26.286|  323.502|        18.495|  
|  4 |   23.764|  365.761|   17.897|  341.398|        24.363| 
|  5 |         |         |   15.095|  356.494|              |
|  6 |         |         |   10.048|  366.541|              |
|  7 |         |         |    6.105|  372.647|              |
|  8 |         |         |    4.785|  377.432|              |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|Year|   YTD   |   LTD   |   YTD   |   LTD   |  Difference  | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|   
|Total|       -|  365.761|        -|  430.000|       -64.239|      
-------------------------------------------------------------

Extra LTD:

[3DS] The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D (Nintendo) {2011.06.16} (¥4.800) - 576.896
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Ooo. It seems MM is doing much better there.^_^ GJ Ninty.^_^
 
P

Pennywise83

Banned
Also nice debut for the new Prince of Tennis: 23,272; FuRyu must be happy.

{28/02/2002} Prince of Tennis [PS] - 58,790 / 133,407
{25/04/2002} Prince of Tennis: Genius Boys Academy [GBA] - 101,925 / 231,947
{26/09/2002} Prince of Tennis: Sweat & Tears [PS] - 46,646 / 72,796
{12/12/2002} Prince of Tennis: Aim at the Victory! [GBA] - 42,150 / 96,133
{20/02/2003} Prince of Tennis 2003: Cool Blue / Passion Red [GBA] - 82,856 / 172,134
{24/07/2003} Prince of Tennis: Smash Hit! [PS2] - 50,304 / 94,491
{25/09/2003} Prince of Tennis: Sweat & Tears 2 [PS2] - 21,049 / 41,129
{30/10/2003} Prince of Tennis: Kiss of Prince - Ice / Flame [PS2] - 17,413 / 22,178
{18/12/2003} Prince of Tennis: Smash Hit! 2 [PS2] - 34,928 / 79,694
{12/02/2004} Prince of Tennis: Love of Prince - Sweet / Bitter [PS2] - 12,987 / 17,473
{18/03/2004} Prince of Tennis 2004: Glorious Gold / Stylish Silver [GBA] - 50,193 / 95,156
{16/09/2004} Prince of Tennis: Form the Strongest Team! [PS2] - 30,565 / 53,650
{09/12/2004} Prince of Tennis: Rush & Dream [PS2] - 17,190 / 24,481
{30/12/2004} Prince of Tennis 2005: Crystal Drive [DS] - _ / 51,658
{22/12/2005} Prince of Tennis: Prince of School Festival [PS2] - 17,597 / _
{25/01/2007} Prince of Tennis: Doki-Doki Survival [PS2] - 14,604 / 24,680
{20/12/2007} Prince of Tennis: Driving Smash! Side Genius [DS] - _ / 21,578
{24/01/2008} Prince of Tennis: Driving Smash! Side King [DS] - 11,978 / 25,505
{05/03/2009} Prince of Tennis: Prince of Doubles - Girls, Be Gracious! [DS] - 13,290 / _
{26/03/2009} Prince of Tennis: Prince of Doubles - Boys, Be Glorious! [DS] - 5,900 / _
{11/02/2010} Prince of Tennis: Prince of School Festival - More Sweet Edition [DS] - 45,454 / 54,180
{05/03/2015} The Prince of Tennis II: Go to the Top [3DS] - 23,272 / 23,272
 
H

hiska-kun

Member
Dragon Quest Heroes (PS3+PS4) VS DQ Monters 1 & 2 (3DS)

Code: 
------------------------------------------------------------------
|    |Dragon Quest Heroes| DQ Monsters Remake|DQ Monsters2 Remake| 
|    |[PS3&4](2015/02/26)| [3DS] (2012/05/31)| [3DS] (2014/02/06)| 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
|  1 |  594.749|  594.749|  513.183|  513.183|  443.656|  443.656| 
|  2 |  102.939|  697.689|   83.329|  596.512|  118.427|  562.083|
|  3 |         |         |   66.434|  662.946|   72.350|  634.433|
|  4 |         |         |   58.228|  721.174|   53.276|  687.709|
|  5 |         |         |   43.648|  787.615|   31.157|  718.865|
|  6 |         |         |   25.027|  812.642|   18.728|  737.593|
|  7 |         |         |   12.820|  825.273|   13.283|  750.876|
|  8 |         |         |   12.396|  837.669|   10.726|  761.602|
|  9 |         |         |   11.056|  848.725|    6.881|  768.483|
| 10 |         |         |    9.714|  858.439|        ?|        ?|
| 11 |         |         |    9.828|  868.267|        ?|        ?|
| 12 |         |         |    6.164|  874.431|        ?|        ?|
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
|Year|   YTD   |   LTD   |   YTD   |   LTD   |   YTD   |   LTD   | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
|Total|       -|  697.689|        -|  956.617|        -|  768.483|      
------------------------------------------------------------------

Dragon Quest Monsters 2: Iru to Ruka no Fushigi na Fushigi na Kagi is probably around 800k LTD according to Media Create. Once the Top 500 2014 is out I will update the numbers.
 
T

theprodigy

Member
Code: 
Wii U	|	2014	|	2015	|		
week 1	|	51.271	|	30.331	|	Down	40,8
week 2	|	14.020	|	10.803	|	Down	22,9
week 3	|	11.443	|	 8.894	|	Down	22,3
week 4	|	 8.490	|	 7.088	|	Down	16,5
week 5	|	 8.072	|	 6.807	|	Down	15,7
week 6	|	 7.180	|	 6.517	|	Down	 9,2
week 7	|	 8.782	|	 7.007	|	Down	20,2
week 8	|	 8.407	|	 6.070	|	Down	27,8
week 9	|	 8.204	|	 6.606	|	Down	19,5
week 10	|	 7.773	|	 7.379	|	Down	 5,1
 
M

Moor-Angol

Banned
Pennywise83 said:
Also nice debut for the new Prince of Tennis: 23,272; FuRyu must be happy.


{11/02/2010} Prince of Tennis: Prince of School Festival - More Sweet Edition [DS] - 45,454 / 54,180
{05/03/2015} The Prince of Tennis II: Go to the Top [3DS] - 23,272 / 23,272
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half of last entry, a very good result indeed
 
M

Mory Dunz

Member
theprodigy said:
Code: 
Wii U	|	2014	|	2015	|		
week 1	|	51.271	|	30.331	|	Down	40,8
week 2	|	14.020	|	10.803	|	Down	22,9
week 3	|	11.443	|	 8.894	|	Down	22,3
week 4	|	 8.490	|	 7.088	|	Down	16,5
week 5	|	 8.072	|	 6.807	|	Down	15,7
week 6	|	 7.180	|	 6.517	|	Down	 9,2
week 7	|	 8.782	|	 7.007	|	Down	20,2
week 8	|	 8.407	|	 6.070	|	Down	27,8
week 9	|	 8.204	|	 6.606	|	Down	19,5
week 10	|	 7.773	|	 7.379	|	Down	 5,1
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lol....so close.
 
M

Moor-Angol

Banned
Pennywise83 said:
First time of FuRyu as a publisher (FuRyu is not Konami) and good result considering the average of more recent titles.
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maybe you are right about the publisher being happy, but in term of brand performance, 23k is still half of 45k so I would not use "good result" in this case
 
V

Vena

Member
So everything according to expectations except the over-performance of EOMD. PS4 is looking like its going to slip back down just as the WiiU did last year, the WiiU is... doing stuff, and the Vita is doing some solid numbers for itself with no big (?) releases.
 
P

Psycho_Mantis

Banned
hiska-kun said:
Dragon Quest Heroes (PS3+PS4) VS DQ Monters 1 & 2 (3DS)

Code: 
------------------------------------------------------------------
|    |Dragon Quest Heroes| DQ Monsters Remake|DQ Monsters2 Remake| 
|    |[PS3-4](2015/02/26)| [3DS] (2012/05/31)| [3DS] (2014/02/06)| 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
|  1 |  594.749|  594.749|  513.183|  513.183|  443.656|  443.656| 
|  2 |  102.939|  697.689|   83.329|  596.512|  118.427|  562.083|
|  3 |         |         |   66.434|  662.946|   72.350|  634.433|
|  4 |         |         |   58.228|  721.174|   53.276|  687.709|
|  5 |         |         |   43.648|  787.615|   31.157|  718.865|
|  6 |         |         |   25.027|  812.642|   18.728|  737.593|
|  7 |         |         |   12.820|  825.273|   13.283|  750.876|
|  8 |         |         |   12.396|  837.669|   10.726|  761.602|
|  9 |         |         |   11.056|  848.725|    6.881|  768.483|
| 10 |         |         |    9.714|  858.439|        ?|        ?|
| 11 |         |         |    9.828|  868.267|        ?|        ?|
| 12 |         |         |    6.164|  874.431|        ?|        ?|
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
|Year|   YTD   |   LTD   |   YTD   |   LTD   |   YTD   |   LTD   | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
|Total|       -|  697.689|        -|  956.617|        -|  768.483|      
------------------------------------------------------------------

Dragon Quest Monsters 2: Iru to Ruka no Fushigi na Fushigi na Kagi is probably around 800k LTD according to Media Create. Once the Top 500 2014 is out I will update the numbers.
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Plus digital does DQH have a chance at getting to 1 million LTD?
 
P

Pezus

Member
Good hold for PS4. Hopefully it'll be able to keep selling 25k+ for many weeks and with many games to come
 
P

Pennywise83

Banned
Moor-Angol said:
most recent is 2010, not 2009

most recent opened at 45k, last entry opened at 23k which is almost the half



this is math
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Most recent outputs, as I wrote. Prince of Tennis average opening of the most recent entries is not 45k, but lower. The 3DS entry seems to have opened well considering recent entries. Not as well as the latest entry, but a good result nonetheless.
 
N

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
So Game Freak's game with Sega is a downloadable title for PC/PS4/XB1.

It seems they decided to focus on branching out more into the Western market than focusing domestically (where it'd presumably be 3DS or mobile).
 
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