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Media Create Sales: Week 15, 2014 (Apr 07 - Apr 13)
- Thread starter Chris1964
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but those vita memory cards...
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
It seems without first parties Nintendo can only sustain enough software releases for one system.
Acquiescence
Member
They have a 3rd platform they are developing for now (QoL), game dev takes more resources now, and there is serious work being done on architecture integration and online services.
Japanese market is still very physical centric, so those memory cards price wouldn't affect it much since the 2000 model already have an in-built 1GB memory.
EDIT: oops, I thought the board moving faster than I am. Sorry for double posting.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Vita > 3DS 
Not sure if this a cause for celebration for diehard Vita fans though considering how low the numbers are.
Nintendo, ring those alarm bells!!!!
Not sure if this a cause for celebration for diehard Vita fans though considering how low the numbers are.
Nintendo, ring those alarm bells!!!!
ATXAlchemy
Member
I... actually want a JP 2DS. >_>
And_Gignac
Member
This is why Nintendo is releasing the 3DS version of Smash first.
Different situation ten years later though.
The DS was designed to sell alongside an already successful predecessor, the GBA's grip on the market was still pretty tight, the GBA had a vastly higher amount of third-party support, the home console wasn't selling as bad as the WiiU is. Third parties didn't have as many options to launch elsewhere for mobile platforms, and development for GBA and DS games was quick and dirt cheap- Nintendo could turn around its games in a matter of months, and could still get away with repackaging NES and SNES games at full price.
What Nintendo is facing is third-party support almost completely disappearing next time around, what they need to do is make sure their digital strategy is robust enough to carry them forward, as at the moment the eshop just isn't getting the support compared to PSN. That's where the money is going to be on their next handheld, and there is no point launching anything until they have everything nailed down. That has to involve better third-party relations than they have right now.
I agree that they could easily have had a new handheld ready if the engineering side of that single machine was the only thing worth worrying about as they have acted in the past, but they have invested a lot into this joint handheld/home console development structure, that's what's being readied for any future strategy and is a critical roll of the dice in terms of timing and engineering.
Well, I guess Japanese 2DS will be pretty popular among importers...
No chance? That seems the most obvious guess, Nintendo has also the Wii U flop to deal with. They have to introduce something new which can a be a success with growth potential. End of 2015 is already a long way to go, it's not around the corner, especially if sales collapse even further.
They can't afford to go on a single shaking leg (3DS) and maybe there is a reason behind the craptacular 2014 3DS lineup.
Man, the Vita TV is such a waste. You'd think being a PS4 extender would be worth something but nope...
Considering how most households in Japan have only 1 TV, that was never the idea.
Would be worth something in the west.
not when limited to 720/30fps.
Vita TV hasn't received the firmware update to allow for Remote Play. Not that I would think it would help sales in Japan, given the PS4's numbers, and the average living space in Japan probably not requiring an extender.
Iwata has claimed to have solved the drought problem with every console since GameCube. Problem is he's only ever claimed to have done it, it's never actually happened.
Also, it's rather ironic that apparently the saving grace of the next handheld is that it will be easy to reuse console assets and do Wii-u ports. Isn't one of the standard Vita insults calling it a ports-only machine?
To be fair though, it's probably an architecture thing as I doubt there will be any worthwhile software on the Wii-U side to port by the time the new handheld comes around - unless we're talking ports of older games (which puts the handheld back in Vita port machine territory).
Japanese devs just need to learn to appeal outside their own territory and that doesn't necessarily mean going "dudebro" on everything either.
chickdigger802
Banned
never really got the point of vita tv, especially in japan where home consoles die.
If you could somehow stream your vita to the tv with it with minimal issues, that could be neat, but from what i can tell... you can't?
You have to physically take out the game from your vita put it in the tv... and the same for the memory card?
If you could somehow stream your vita to the tv with it with minimal issues, that could be neat, but from what i can tell... you can't?
You have to physically take out the game from your vita put it in the tv... and the same for the memory card?
Davey Cakes
Member
Vita people are annoying.
The numbers are either getting worse or stabilizing low. You're not celebrating an increase in sales, you're celebrating the competition dropping in sales.
I'd rather my preferred system sell more than for the rivals(s) to merely drop the ball.
But whatever.
The numbers are either getting worse or stabilizing low. You're not celebrating an increase in sales, you're celebrating the competition dropping in sales.
I'd rather my preferred system sell more than for the rivals(s) to merely drop the ball.
But whatever.
ATXAlchemy
Member
Digital.
AcademicSaucer
Member
Where were you when people were posting gifs after gifs of DS/3DS printing money and NINTENDOMINATION?
This is nothing new or strange to MC sales threads.
Regular 25k weeks are definitely cause for celebration. Sure, this weeks first place 'victory' is somewhat hollowed by the fact that everything else has died on its arse, but the numbers for the Vita are better than ever.
*Cues up Kool & The Gang*
Do you actually look at the numbers, or just guess?
Galactic Barret
Member
Vita held pretty well. Gotta pick one up this year.
Which Japanese devs? All of them? Nintendo seem to do alright with various IP, the last Fire Emblem was one of the biggest selling in the series so far and it's one of the most 'Japanese' IP they have, being a cartoony SRPG.
Japanese games in a Japanese style that are really good can do fine, that's what Square found with Bravely Default, and Atlus with Persona too. I suppose what all of those games have in common is relatively unique art direction. It's where they hunker down into niche otaku territory or, as you say, ape western games relatively poorly that they unsurprisingly struggle overseas. The recent FF games are a classic example of trying to please everyone and not doing too well at anything.
SwiftDeath
Member
Wow total HW sales this week are abysmal.
Vita > 3DS. What's the next big 3DS and Vita game respectively?
PS4 staying at 13k, wonder what'll happen next week
Wii U dropping again, wonder if it'll go sub-5k again
Interesting that PS4 didn't go down by any real amount but PS3 seems to have [of course I guess Famitsu paints a different picture]
Vita > 3DS. What's the next big 3DS and Vita game respectively?
PS4 staying at 13k, wonder what'll happen next week
Wii U dropping again, wonder if it'll go sub-5k again
Interesting that PS4 didn't go down by any real amount but PS3 seems to have [of course I guess Famitsu paints a different picture]
test_account
XP-39C²
I think the main point was the price. It is sold for 10k yen (the version with a Dual Shock 3 controller included costs 15k yen), which is nearly half the price of a regular Vita. It also allows you to play Vita games on a bigger screen.
Yep, the VitaTV is just like a Vita without out a screen, so you have to take out the game if you want to play it on another system. The same goes for the memorycard. As someone mentioned, you can avoid this by bying the game digitally though. And cloud saving on PS+ is possible too, so you dont have to take out the memorycard.
Much of the celebration is because the Vita is doing better than what it used to do, so its not celebrating of that the competition is selling less. There would most likely be some celebration regardless of what the competition is doing.
Davey Cakes
Member
This time I guessed so I could be corrected by you.
test_account
XP-39C²
I dont think there is much to worry about Vita at this point to be honest concidering how it sold in the first ~2 years.
Uncle Rupee
Banned
Is Titanfall selling 10k in its first week a victoly?
edit: Oh wait it's the 360 version... forgot the Xbone wasn't out in Japan yet.
edit: Oh wait it's the 360 version... forgot the Xbone wasn't out in Japan yet.
SwiftDeath
Member
I wonder when the last 360 game charted in Japan. Maybe GTAV?
I imagine the drop for TF 360 next week will be massive
vagabondarts
Member
Anyone still think we won't hear about a 3DS successor soon?
Normally a game that sells over 100K for the Vita boosts HW sales by roughly 10k so this looks really bad.
Still seeing third-party games selling on the platform gives us good hope that Japanese core games will have a home.
if soon is this year then no, I don't think we'll hear about it. officially, that is.
Graphics Horse
Member
Ground Zeroes actually!
38./00. [360] Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes <ADV> (Konami) {2014.03.20} (¥2.980)
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
I hope not as its going to piss off all the devs who are on board with the 3DS now. And with how long it took for the 3DS to take off replacing the DS yeah dont think its the best business move for Nintendo to make. Also with how in general its fully apparent that there is competition from smartphones here. Trying to get folks to shell out yet again for another handheld which will have a sparse selection of launch titles / line up for a while isnt going to fly well.
This, why start over when despite the lower HW sales, SW seems to be doing well.
If anything they need to make the most of the 3DS while eating the losses of the WiiU rather than start from scratch.
Well its not like the 3DS has a ton of 3rd party support right now and the system had a slow start after launch because of being way overpriced in addition to having a bad line up.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
In Japan they still do. In the US for example, you guys are getting more localized titles now than before.
Now is most def NOT the time for a company to be trying to push out new hardware that would have to compete with smartphones and apps. They need to work off of the existing marketshare they already have with games. New hardware is not a solution to the "problem".
SwiftDeath
Member
ah forgot about ground zeroes.
Apparently there aren't many fanboys in Japan.
