I've got the perfect plan: Switch price increase. Switch ambassadors don't get VC.
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I've got the perfect plan: Switch price increase. Switch ambassadors don't get VC.
Yes, how dare they not be bullish about production right out of the gate like they were with Wii U, which never saw a price drop due to said bullish production. And the nerve of them not being able to predict the time and scope of component shortages. THE NERVE, I SAY.
Skullwaker
Member
Based on what's announced currently, yeah.
We need the Splatoon 2 numbers already!
Bruno MB
Member
I always believed that Nintendo Switch severe supply issues were going to continue so I only predicted 225.000 units sold for the entire month, and maybe I was even a bit optimistic, we will see.
I expected something like this:
[Week 26, 2017] 30.000 - 35.000
[Week 27, 2017] 30.000 - 35.000
[Week 28, 2017] 30.000 - 35.000
[Week 29, 2017] 80.000 - 90.000
[Week 30, 2017] 35.000 - 40.000
I expected something like this:
[Week 26, 2017] 30.000 - 35.000
[Week 27, 2017] 30.000 - 35.000
[Week 28, 2017] 30.000 - 35.000
[Week 29, 2017] 80.000 - 90.000
[Week 30, 2017] 35.000 - 40.000
The thirst is real.
Globally the numbers are good. In Japan however the benchmark to beat are 3DS and DS.
Thread introduced the successor to couple: rounding up.
frankie_baby
Member
Well it'll be the biggest title after it, whether it'll actually be big remains to be seen
KillerMan91
Member
It's not really keeping up with Wii in US either anymore. Wii was pulling 350k months (with stock problems) by this time when Switch (with stock problems) is pulling 200k months.
You don't think Mario Odyssey will be at least a match for Zelda?
Skullwaker
Member
Curious why you think Mario Odyssey isn't considered a big release for Nintendo compared to Mario Kart or Zelda. While 3D World sold less than 700k iirc, 3D Land sold like 2 million on the 3DS and both of the Galaxy games sold over a million on the Wii.
Edit: Xbro always beating me to the punch.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Please. WiiU wasn't even an objectively large shipment. Lacking the ability to ramp up production on an already objectively low initial shipment, months after launch, is incompetency on Nintendo's part.
And what would you say about PSVR, just for a point of reference?
AdventureRacing
Member
Despite the massive shortages for the switch and the fact that it didn't release until march it is already over 200K ahead of he PS4 this year. Thats a pretty massive gap to cover.
The rest of your points feel like massive stretches just looking for reasons to justify your position. I'm not sure what arms relatively low impact has to do with the blue ocean or why that would prevent them selling more than the PS4 this year.
You say that Nintendo haven't got much big SW to release this year post splatoon 2 but what does the PS4 have in the pipeline post DQXI? Mario is going to be far bigger than anything the PS4 has coming this year and IMO may end up selling more than any game released on the PS4. There are other mid tier titles like xenoblade, pokken and MHXX to come.
More importantly though the titles Nintendo have already released will continue pushing Hw throughout the holidays and due to lack of supply the pent up demand should see the switch continue to easily sell out the rest of the year.
The only possible way the PS4 outsells the switch this year is if switch shipments suddenly come to a grinding halt. There's just no way it's even a contest.
Haven't the reasons why they exactly can't ramp up the production so easily been discussed already like a thousand times?
Yeah, Nintendo doesn't want to sell more consoles. They choose not to ramp up production just for fun and create artificial shortages instead, right? That's damn smart business thinking!
No its bad business thinking because they cant ramp up production even after this ammount of time and is something that is clearly nintendos fault, which many other already pointed out.
What is even to discuss here?
OrangeGrayBlue
Member
I think they'll be in a similar position at the one year mark, considering that the Wii's launch and 1st holiday happened at the same time while the Switch's launch and first holiday are two separate time periods within the same year. I'm actually surprised consoles aren't launched outside the holiday season more often, it seems like common sense to capitalize on both instances of high sales by separating the two events rather than compounding the stock issues that almost every console runs into at launch. Just imagine how many frustrated customers there would be if the Switch was as popular as it is AND launched in mid-November rather than the random early March release date.
theprodigy
Member
because then you cant post about nontrivial stuff!
Eolz
Member
The regular threads about how Nintendo is doing "artificial demand/stock shortages/etc" should be enough to see people don't want to get that it's more incompetence than being evil.
There's been countless articles and good posts about how it's mainly bad planning, but some people will never want to listen to that.
???
I mean its a fact everyone with two braincells knows that Nintendo doesnt create shortages just to screw their customers...the last pages were about how bad and unflexible the production environment seem to be.
His point is thay anyone talking about Nintendo in terms of incompetence or failure is getting replied and argued otherwise except that one.
I mean it was pretty obvious
But 3DS had the infamous early price cut. It's a somewhat complicated comparison I think.
(can't comment on DS right now as I don't remember its first year in detail)
A lot of the discussion and critique against any company in these these threads are usually too harsh and I blame my self for this too. We really dont know enough inner details of any company to have deep discussions about them. Yeah, maybe Nintendos supply chain management is horrible, but what is the basis of this? We know the WiiU was way overshipped and had a negative inpact. So making deals and order parts on demand seems like a better option, but shortages can happen, and then you have a problem. They probably did order bigger amounts to get production rolling, but I think its reasonable to for them to have waited out the initial resulta of the Switch before committing to bigger shipments.
AdventureRacing
Member
What was there to really reply to there? Nirolak is correct and there wasn't really much else to add to that post or to disagree with it.
OrangeGrayBlue
Member
If I recall, the DS didn't really take off until the DS Lite released. I wouldn't be too surprised if the Switch outpaces its first year. It's keeping up with the 3rd year and beyond that would be incredibly impressive.
Yeah I remember the DS Lite boom as well but I'd have to look at actual numbers... I'm getting too old for this stuff lol.
darkstar0155
Member
100% this is my recollection too. The DS took off when the DS Lite released and Nintendogs and the Brain games launched.
KillerMan91
Member
Sales might be pretty similar one year in but I wouldn't exactly call that completely fair comparison. Having your first holiday six months after launch gives you big supply advantage compared to having your first holiday during launch quarter. Switch having launch during different quarter compared to most of successful consoles makes comparisons little more harder early on. I agree that holiday season really isn't as important for launch period as people think because nevertheless you are pretty much always limited by supply during launch quarters. PS4 had by far biggest ever launch quarter (4.5 million) and still had big stock issues.
Thanks ^_^
At least this time I wrote it down early enough so you may all have a good laugh come the end of the year.
We don't have to wait so much, we already have your past posts for Vita successor and Switch mega bomb.
There isnt anything to reply there - even theprodigy only quoted it to say that no one reacted to the post while he didnt respond to it either.
If there were issues with the statement or something to discuss people would have jumped on it, but its pretty clear and most sales gaf users know it. Dont know what you were expecting here.
In Japan DS exploded before DS Lite.
theprodigy
Member
I have no idea what YTD numbers you're even expecting for this to be possible.
Calm Mind
Member
This
OrbitalBeard
Member
I honestly just thought it was a commonly accepted truth at this point. I mean, it's kind of understandable why they were hesitant on Switch's potential, but that doesn't change the fact that they're horrible at this whole production thing and have been for decades. I've always seen it as a bad combo of conservatism and incompetence.
Skittzo0413
Member
Isn't that essentially impossible at this point? Between April and June we have the US+Japan shipments at around 1.1m with semi-official numbers. So it would need to have done less than 200k in the rest of the world over 3 full months to be under 4m LTD.
I think we will see them at around 4.75 million, since that would fit the sales pattern of US and Japan pretty well.
KillerMan91
Member
Under 4 million total so far is impossible. Personally going with 1.7 million quarter shipment and 4.4 million total.
Edit.
Great minds think alike lol.
Edit.
Great minds think alike lol.