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Vena · Oct 15, 2017

test_account said:
Are you guys saying that Resident Evil did very poorly, as in not making money this gen? Didnt the ports of 4,5 an 6, and RE:HD sell nearly 3 million copies in total? Is it delusional to think that the franchise did good overall this gen?

RE7's not doing very well by the general metric of RE, and its undershooting forecasts something fierce, and the Gold release isn't likely to get it near its additional 2mil target for this FY. Game reviewed well but it was still met with a divisive response and ~40-50% of your RE5/6 audience didn't show up.

The remaster releases at 20$-30$ aren't going to be lighting your revenue stream on fire. They sold great, but they are also not making you a ton of money even for their minimal investment requirements, so the RoI is going to be low (for equally low investment).

Its kind of hard to look at this situation and consider it "great" in any capacity.

casiopao · Oct 15, 2017

test_account said:
Are you guys saying that Resident Evil did very poorly, as in not making money this gen? Didnt the ports of 4,5 an 6, and RE:HD sell nearly 3 million copies in total? Is it delusional to think that the franchise did good overall this gen?

Port is always small cost small gain venture. The biggest thing will always be the new big Numbered title and in the case of RE, 7 dissapoint and unless 8 can come out to stop this decline, the franchise will remain in threat.

Åkami · Oct 15, 2017

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Game Boy 1995: 787.565 / n/a
Game Boy 1996: 2.093.623 / n/a
Game Boy 1997: 5.835.513 / n/a
Game Boy 1998: 6.203.493 / n/a
Game Boy 1999: 11.132.180 / n/a
Game Boy 2000: 11.115.877 / n/a
Game Boy 2001: 6.608.489 / n/a
Game Boy 2002: 811.853 / n/a

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SEGA MegaDrive 1995: 131.686 / n/a

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SEGA GameGear 1995: 12.965 / n/a

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PC Engine 1995: 561.829 / n/a

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Super Famicom 1995: 18.073.926 / n/a
Super Famicom 1996: 10.942.412 / n/a
Super Famicom 1997: 1.315.255 / n/a
Super Famicom 1998: 72.444 / n/a
Super Famicom 1999: 145.600 / n/a
Super Famicom 2000: 10.745 / n/a

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Neo Geo (including CD games) 1995: 792.819 / n/a
Neo Geo (including CD games) 1996: 288.466 / n/a
Neo Geo (including CD games) 1997: 136.837 / n/a
Neo Geo (including CD games) 1998: 57.207 / n/a
Neo Geo (including CD games) 1999: 42.924 / n/a
Neo Geo (including CD games) 2000: n/a / n/a
Neo Geo (including CD games) 2001: n/a / n/a
Neo Geo (including CD games) 2002: 6.126 / n/a

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3DO 1995: 378.465

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SEGA Saturn 1994: 108.676 / NEW
SEGA Saturn 1995: 10.155.416 / 10.264.092
SEGA Saturn 1996: 11.409.965 / 21.674.057
SEGA Saturn 1997: 8.042.930 / 29.716.987
SEGA Saturn 1998: 5.002.771 / 34.719.758
SEGA Saturn 1999: 206.002 / 34.925.760

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PlayStation 1994: 276.064 / NEW.
PlayStation 1995: 10.334.385 / 10.610.449
PlayStation 1996: 16.160.704 / 26.771.153
PlayStation 1997: 31.253.444 / 58.024.597
PlayStation 1998: 33.712.165 / 91.736.762
PlayStation 1999: 39.109.207 / 130.845.969
PlayStation 2000: 22.395.142 / 153.241.111
PlayStation 2001: 7.325.350 / 160.566.461
PlayStation 2002: 4.182.629 / 164.749.090
PlayStation 2003: 661.590 / 165.410.680
PlayStation 2004: 45.327 / 165.456.007
PlayStation 2005: 50.441 / 165.506.448
PlayStation 2006: 58.315 / 165.564.736
PlayStation 2007: 79.120 / 165.643.883

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Virtual Boy 1995: 25.934 / NEW

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Nintendo 64 1996: 1.779.567 / NEW
Nintendo 64 1997: 2.704.646 / 4.484.213
Nintendo 64 1998: 4.626.779 / 9.110.992
Nintendo 64 1999: 7.046.779 / 16.157.771
Nintendo 64 2000: 6.385.106 / 22.542.877
Nintendo 64 2001: 1.570.240 / 24.113.117

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Dreamcast 1998: 419.488 / NEW
Dreamcast 1999: 4.998.002 / 5.417.490
Dreamcast 2000: 4.103.484 / 9.520.974
Dreamcast 2001: 2.081.946 / 11.602.920
Dreamcast 2002: 668.264 / 12.271.184
Dreamcast 2003: 65.909 / 12.337.093

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WonderSwan 1999: 970.837 / NEW
WonderSwan 2000: 1.002.035 / 1.972.872
WonderSwan 2001: 758.426 / 2.731.298
WonderSwan 2002: 340.943 / 3.072.241
WonderSwan 2003: 15.770 / 3.088.011

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PlayStation 2 2000: 6.947.219 / NEW
PlayStation 2 2001: 17.500.295 / 24.447.514
PlayStation 2 2002: 24.424.866 / 48.872.380
PlayStation 2 2003: 28.132.356 / 77.004.736
PlayStation 2 2004: 31.971.380 / 108.976.116
PlayStation 2 2005: 27.083.832 / 136.059.948
PlayStation 2 2006: 22.153.014 / 158.212.962
PlayStation 2 2007: 11.375.672 / 169.588.634
PlayStation 2 2008: 5.916.014 / 175.504.648
PlayStation 2 2009: 3.082.126 / 178.586.774
PlayStation 2 2010: 696.809 / 179.283.583
PlayStation 2 2011: 150.530 / 179.434.113
PlayStation 2 2012: 37.248 / 179.471.361

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Game Boy Advance 2001: 6.546.278 / NEW
Game Boy Advance 2002: 11.004.951 / 17.551.229
Game Boy Advance 2003: 11.933.944 / 29.485.173
Game Boy Advance 2004: 16.329.777 / 45.814.950
Game Boy Advance 2005: 6.313.939 / 52.128.889
Game Boy Advance 2006: 2.794.383 / 54.923.272
Game Boy Advance 2007: 412.385 / 55.335.657
Game Boy Advance 2008: 203.199 / 55.538.856
Game Boy Advance 2009: 133.113 / 55.671.696
Game Boy Advance 2010: 41.374 / 55.713.343
Game Boy Advance 2011: 15.763 / 55.729.106

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Nintendo GameCube 2001: 1.761.861 / NEW
Nintendo GameCube 2002: 5.055.456 / 6.817.317
Nintendo GameCube 2003: 6.545.145 / 13.362.462
Nintendo GameCube 2004: 4.731.745 / 18.094.207
Nintendo GameCube 2005: 2.875.114 / 20.969.321
Nintendo GameCube 2006: 736.865 / 21.706.186

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Nintendo DS 2004: 1.169.715 / NEW
Nintendo DS 2005: 11.435.832 / 12.605.547
Nintendo DS 2006: 37.862.515 / 50.468.062
Nintendo DS 2007: 37.965.875 / 88.433.937
Nintendo DS 2008: 26.568.822 / 115.002.759
Nintendo DS 2009: 27.706.064 / 142.708.823
Nintendo DS 2010: 22.104.817 / 164.813.640
Nintendo DS 2011: 7.288.899 / 172.102.539
Nintendo DS 2012: 4.827.566 / 176.930.105
Nintendo DS 2013: 386.268 / 177.316.373
Nintendo DS 2014: 46.344 / 177.362.717

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PlayStation Portable 2004: 520.309 / NEW
PlayStation Portable 2005: 3.733.028 / 4.902.743
PlayStation Portable 2006: 5.877.796 / 10.780.539
PlayStation Portable 2007: 6.106.313 / 16.886.852
PlayStation Portable 2008: 9.082.377 / 25.969.229
PlayStation Portable 2009: 9.692.969 / 35.662.198
PlayStation Portable 2010: 15.947.698 / 51.609.896
PlayStation Portable 2011: 13.791.228 / 65.391.124
PlayStation Portable 2012: 7.489.166 / 72.880.290
PlayStation Portable 2013: 3.867.029 / 76.747.319
PlayStation Portable 2014: 1.080.990 / 77.828.309

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Xbox 360 2005: 59.525 / NEW
Xbox 360 2006: 671.272 / 730.797
Xbox 360 2007: 978.265 / 1.709.062
Xbox 360 2008: 1.344.936 / 3.053.998
Xbox 360 2009: 1.992.803 / 5.046.801
Xbox 360 2010: 1.623.292 / 6.670.093
Xbox 360 2011: 1.246.675 / 7.916.768
Xbox 360 2012: 731.843 / 8.648.611
Xbox 360 2013: 406.937 / 9.055.548
Xbox 360 2014: 120.122 / 9.175.670

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Wii 2006: 1.896.479 / NEW
Wii 2007: 11.282.685 / 13.179.164
Wii 2008: 13.144.349 / 26.323.513
Wii 2009: 12.992.433 / 39.315.946
Wii 2010: 11.575.902 / 50.891.848
Wii 2011: 8.778.813 / 59.670.661
Wii 2012: 5.251.223 / 64.291.884
Wii 2013: 1.500.521 / 66.422.405
Wii 2014: 135.738 / 66.558.143

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PlayStation 3 2006: 397.930 / NEW
PlayStation 3 2007: 2.667.493 / 3.065.423
PlayStation 3 2008: 4.672.939 / 7.738.362
PlayStation 3 2009: 7.961.571 / 15.699.933
PlayStation 3 2010: 9.905.715 / 25.605.648
PlayStation 3 2011: 11.999.888 / 37.605.536
PlayStation 3 2012: 11.620.412 / 49.225.948
PlayStation 3 2013: 11.782.399 / 61.008.347
PlayStation 3 2014: 7.550.358 / 68.558.705
PlayStation 3 2015: 4.254.308 / 72.813.313
PlayStation 3 2016: 1.621.060 / 74.434.373
PlayStation 3 2017: 183.723 / 74.618.096

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Nintendo 3DS 2011: 7.088.267 / NEW
Nintendo 3DS 2012: 17.455.889 / 24.544.156
Nintendo 3DS 2013: 23.577.179 / 48.121.335
Nintendo 3DS 2014: 23.237.887 / 71.359.222
Nintendo 3DS 2015: 18.343.250 / 89.702.472
Nintendo 3DS 2016: 14.718.727 / 104.421.199
Nintendo 3DS 2017: 8.519.595 / 112.940.794

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PlayStation Vita 2011: 387.688 / NEW
PlayStation Vita 2012: 1.936.117 / 2.323.805
PlayStation Vita 2013: 3.516.216 / 5.839.021
PlayStation Vita 2014: 5.143.158 / 10.982.179
PlayStation Vita 2015: 5.211.540 / 16.193.719
PlayStation Vita 2016: 4.869.212 / 21.062.931
PlayStation Vita 2017: 1.729.233 / 22.792.164

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Wii U 2012: 874.223 / NEW
Wii U 2013: 2.967.544 / 3.841.767
Wii U 2014: 3.191.918 / 7.033.685
Wii U 2015: 3.723.025 / 10.756.710
Wii U 2016: 2.084.050 / 12.840.760
Wii U 2017: 465.877 / 13.306.637

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Nintendo Switch 2017: 3.849.313 / NEW

SinCityAssassin · Oct 15, 2017

test_account said:
Are you guys saying that Resident Evil did very poorly, as in not making money this gen? Didnt the ports of 4,5 an 6, and RE:HD sell nearly 3 million copies in total? Is it delusional to think that the franchise did good overall this gen?

It wouldn't be delusional to think the franchise is a bit stable right now.

But it's delusional to think that this result is near anything capcom expected or wanted.

Aters · Oct 15, 2017

Nirolak said:
And then, a couple months ago, they announced plans to sign off their IPs to much more prominent partners, though presumably as a licensor instead of as a publisher this go around, which gets them better games, but a smaller part of the profits. That said, if they actually got good partners (they wouldnt say who), it would still be a notable step up. But again, we really dont 100% know if its licensor vs publisher or if theyre partnered with anyone good yet, and we still dont know what their 500-700+ internal mobile staff are doing right now.

This is the number of a full blown AAA studio. What the hell have they been working on?

casiopao · Oct 15, 2017

Aters said:
This is the number of a full blown AAA studio. What the hell have they been working on?

Launching some bomba mobile game?

Nirolak · Oct 15, 2017

Aters said:
This is the number of a full blown AAA studio. What the hell have they been working on?

Hypothetically mobile games for Mega Man, Monster Hunter, and Sengoku Basara that should be out by the end of March.

cw_sasuke · Oct 15, 2017

Nirolak said:
Hypothetically mobile games for Mega Man, Monster Hunter, and Sengoku Basara that should be out by the end of March.

Ouch... Good luck with that.

ggx2ac · Oct 15, 2017

Nirolak said:
Hypothetically mobile games for Mega Man, Monster Hunter, and Sengoku Basara that should be out by the end of March.

I'm just thinking... So they delayed it right? I can't find the latest press release (Just the one below). I'm noticing they planned to release those games by the end of March 2017. No wonder their investors were so impatient and disappointed recently with the, "When will Capcom experience real growth in mobile?"

Under the new organization, Capcom plans to release four titles in the fiscal year ending March 31, 2017, including popular brands such as "Monster Hunter", "Sengoku BASARA", and "Mega Man".

http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/news/html/e160401.html

Edit: Hahaha what if the announcement for something about Mega Man in December is actually about the mobile game? People here are going to be so let down after what they went through TGS. lol

Heartskips · Oct 15, 2017

The Mega Man title will probably be announced during the 30th Anniversary December event, they hinted at that during TGS. Already expecting the backlash and thousands of dislikes for the reveal video...

But seriously, who is doing worse with mobile production. Level 5 or Capcom? Both are having big troubles releasing their mobile titles and their products for dedicated devices aren't exactly doing great too.

silpheed-mcd · Oct 15, 2017

Ōkami;252052565 said:
Software

Hi Ôkami, where these figures come from please?

An example:

SEGA Saturn 1994: 108.676 / NEW

Famitsu, sega saturn games sales, first week only from 1994:

Virtua Fighter 64.718 22/11/1994
Clockwork Knight 45.537 09/12/1994
Gale Racer 28.565 02/12/1994
The Mansion of Hidden Souls 25.838 02/12/1994
Myst 18.100 22/11/1994

182.758

Or playstation:

PlayStation 1994: 276.064 / NEW.

Ridge Racer 164.279 03/12/1994
Gokujou Parodius Da! Deluxe Pack 101.802 03/12/1994
A-Train IV 51.914 03/12/1994
Crime Crackers 29.627 03/12/1994
TwinBee Taisen Puzzle Dama 33.755 09/12/1994
King's Field 5.413 50.279 16/12/1994
Motor Toon Grand Prix 4.216 16/12/1994
Mahjong Goku Tenjiku 2.325 03/12/1994

438.197

Some sega saturn/playstation games figures from 1994 until 1 January 1995 (famitsu with x3.65 method):

[PSX] Ridge Racer - 370.073 (03/12/1994)
[SAT] Virtua Fighter - 245.233 (22/11/1994)
[PSX] Gokujou Parodius Da! Deluxe Pack - 217.460 (03/12/1994)
[PSX] A-Train IV - 108.083 (03/12/1994)
[PSX] Jikkyo Powerful Pro Yakyu 95 - 59.805 (22/12/1994)

[PSX] Battle Arena Toshinden - 165.444 (01/01/1995)

SFC, PCE, NeoGeo CD:

[SFC] Donkey Kong Country - 1.111.156 (26/11/1994)
[SFC] Super Fire Pro Wrestling Special - 185.791 (22/12/1994)
[SFC] Kamaitachi no Yoru - 403.477 (25/11/1994)
[SFC] Romance of the Three Kingdoms IV: Wall of Fire - 307.174 (09/12/1994)
[SFC] Daikaju Monogatari - 135.506 (22/12/1994)
[SFC] Wonder Project J: Kikai no Shonen Pino - 87.987 (09/12/1994)
[SFC] Super Momotaro Dentetsu III - 496.816 (09/12/1994)
[PCE] Graduation II: Neo Generation (TURBO CD) - 26.952 (23/12/1994)
[SFC] Dual Orb II - 15.943 (29/12/1994)
[SFC] Ganbare Goemon 3 - 221.803 (16/12/1994)
[NGCD] Samurai Shodown II - 103.014 (15/12/1994)
[SFC] Breath of Fire II - 141.460 (02/12/1994)
[PCE] Arunamu no Kiba Juuzokujuu Nishinto Densetsu (TURBO CD) - 33.511 (23/12/1994)
[SFC] Go Go Ackman - 23.422 (23/12/1994)

ggx2ac · Oct 15, 2017

Fate/Grand Order VR feat. Mashu Kyrielight will launch for PlayStation VR via the PlayStation Store in Japan as a free download on December 6, Type-Moon announced.

Read more at http://gematsu.com/2017/10/fategran...hes-free-december-6-japan#DGS8t3BJCK00dogQ.99

Old trailer: https://youtu.be/mm3JLUO9Urs

Yes, you just saw her bouncing on a Yoga ball.

ggx2ac · Oct 15, 2017

Oh, and another Chinese game coming to Switch.

Icey, which launched for PlayStation 4 back in August, is coming to Switch, developer Fantablade announced. And Limited Run Games will distribute limited run physical copies of the game for both PlayStation 4 and Switch.

Read more at http://gematsu.com/2017/10/icey-com...itions-planned-ps4-switch#10IqcZPVPxyo8mlz.99

More details in the link.

AdventureRacing · Oct 15, 2017

Ōkami;252052565 said:
Software

This is a good demonstration of why the PS3 will struggle to match the PS4. The PS3 had its biggest SW sales by far in years 6, 7 and 8. It's hard to see PS4 matching that, not impossible but unlikely IMO.

mao2 · Oct 15, 2017

ggx2ac said:
Oh, and another Chinese game coming to Switch.

More details in the link.

I think Gematsu got the news wrong. Limited Run Games will only be releasing the physical version for PS4.
https://twitter.com/ICEYtheGame/status/919075394996748294

Also this game has yet to be released in Japan.

ggx2ac · Oct 15, 2017

mao2 said:
I think Gematsu got the news wrong. Limited Run Games will only be releasing the physical version for PS4.
https://twitter.com/ICEYtheGame/status/919075394996748294

Also this game has yet to be released in Japan.

I didn't notice a thread was made already so disregard my original post.

casiopao · Oct 15, 2017

ggx2ac said:
Old trailer: https://youtu.be/mm3JLUO9Urs

Yes, you just saw her bouncing on a Yoga ball.

VR is pervert best dream tools lol. This should not be a surprise.

Heartskips · Oct 15, 2017

Fate games are always like that now. At least Cygames will try something big with the Granblue PS4 project.

Refyref · Oct 15, 2017

Heartskips said:
Fate games are always like that now. At least Cygames will try something big with the Granblue PS4 project.

Now? The series started as an eroge. :V

Heartskips · Oct 15, 2017

Refyref said:
Now? The series started as an eroge. :V

True, but it was a bit more serious. lol

BrokenJohnCena · Oct 15, 2017

Refyref said:
Now? The series started as an eroge. :V

the first thing I saw about the series was an ingame-pic about a twintails girl and a blonde girl from the game doing xxx stuffs that my friend sent me,no kidding

Principate · Oct 15, 2017

BrokenJohnCena said:
the first thing I saw about the series was an ingame-pic about a twintails girl and a blonde girl from the game doing xxx stuffs that my friend sent me,no kidding

I mean technically that stuff makes up like less than 1% of the story and the didn't really want that stuff in it but felt they need it to sell the story which is once they got popular they ditch it in all future written works and versions of the story.

But yeah there's certainly a few weird porn scenarios in there but it's all done for "serious" reasons.

Refyref · Oct 15, 2017

Heartskips said:
True, but it was a bit more serious. lol

The advertising certainly shifted almost entirely to the pervy side. They know what sells!

BrokenJohnCena said:
the first thing I saw about the series was an ingame-pic about a twintails girl and a blonde girl from the game doing xxx stuffs that my friend sent me,no kidding

And that became one of the biggest multimedia franchises currently in Japan.

ggx2ac · Oct 15, 2017

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1448132

As I expected, BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle coming to PS4, Switch and Steam.

Zedark · Oct 15, 2017

SMO seems to be ramping up quite a bit on amazon. Took over first place from MHW and GTS, and also has SKUs at 17th and 22th.

silpheed-mcd · Oct 15, 2017

ComG! preorders

MHW: +2 pt (177 pt)
SMO: +9 pt (123 pt)
Pokémon US/UM: +10 pt (+15 pt with double pack, 499 pt)
COD: WWII: +4 pt (61 pt)

http://www.comgnet.com/ranking/

Celine · Oct 15, 2017

KillerMan91 said:
You are completely ignoring digital though. With digital sales it is pretty even with DQVIII. Sure still decent bit behind IX but IX is second best selling third party game of all time in Japan (behind MHP3). I don't think it's catastrophe not to match it especially considering how pretty much every franchise in Japan has seen decline from those days.

Mainline DQ games still selling 3M+ is surely a good sign for SE, it means DQ hasn't lost its special luster in Japan (unlike Final Fantasy).
The only doubt I have for DQXI is on how many buyers purchased both the PS4 version and 3DS version.
DQXI is the first mainline DQ that pushed two separate version out at the same time, a high number of doubledippers may mask some slight decline.

cw_sasuke · Oct 15, 2017

Celine said:
Mainline DQ games still selling 3M+ is surely a good sign for SE, it means DQ hasn't lost its special luster in Japan (unlike Final Fantasy).
The only doubt I have for DQXI is on how many buyers purchased both the PS4 version and 3DS version.
DQXI is the first mainline DQ that pushed two separate version out at the same time, a high number of doubledippers may mask some slight decline.

There is a decline even with no doubledippers considering how much the last main titles where able to sell. DQ wouldnt be in a much different spot than FF if they would have gone PS only with the IP....the last Sony system big enough for a +3m seller was the PSP.

Not saying that FF would sell as much - but they havent been catering to a large portion of the audience with the mainseries for a while. If they had tried something like they do now with the Pocket Edition on past popular system like DS, PSP, Wii or 3DS they probably would have reach higher sales as well.

Sammy Samusu · Oct 15, 2017

It's cool to follow the pre-release of SMO but in reality we all know it's going to be the best selling Mario 3D game, so there's no mystery there.

It's more interesting to watch MHW getting single digit updates.

ArkhamFantasy · Oct 15, 2017

Aters said:
This is the number of a full blown AAA studio. What the hell have they been working on?

To put that number in perspective, the FFXV team peaked at 350.

mao2 · Oct 15, 2017

ggx2ac said:
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1448132

As I expected, BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle coming to PS4, Switch and Steam.

Nice.

D.Lo · Oct 15, 2017

Celine said:
Mainline DQ games still selling 3M+ is surely a good sign for SE, it means DQ hasn't lost its special luster in Japan (unlike Final Fantasy).
The only doubt I have for DQXI is on how many buyers purchased both the PS4 version and 3DS version.
DQXI is the first mainline DQ that pushed two separate version out at the same time, a high number of doubledippers may mask some slight decline.

Eh, is there some source I missed that it sold 600-800k digital to get anywhere near IX? Last I'd read there were only Famitsu digital estimates at 200k between both versions?

But anyway yes I honestly believe giving both versions the same title is borderline lying. It's two completely separate games with possibly zero assets in common, just story. It's a game and a full overhaul remake of the same game. Of course a serious fan would get both.

Eolz · Oct 15, 2017

ggx2ac said:
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1448132

As I expected, BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle coming to PS4, Switch and Steam.

Way better news than an old or custom BB port!
Hopefully GG is next.

Celine · Oct 15, 2017

D.Lo said:
Eh, is there some source I missed that it sold 600-800k digital to get anywhere near IX? Last I'd read there were only Famitsu digital estimates at 200k between both versions?

Not matching DQIX isn't a problem.
DQIX is the second best selling non-Nintendo game ever in Japan.
A DQ game selling notably lower than 3M however is a problem.
3M isn't a random threshold but a rough minimum of what mainline DQ games usually have sold in Japan since Dragon Quest III (1988).

Mainline Dragon Quest total shipment in Japan:

[FC] Dragon Quest: 1.50M
[FC] Dragon Quest II: Luminaries of the Legendary Line: 2.41M
[FC] Dragon Quest III: The Seeds of Salvation: 3.77M
[FC] Dragon Quest IV: Chapters of the Chosen: 3.04M
[SFC] Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride: 2.79M
[SFC] Dragon Quest VI: Realms of Revelation: 3.19M
[PS1] Dragon Quest VII: Fragments of the Forgotten Past: 4.14M
[PS2] Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King: 3.75M
[NDS] Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Skies: 4.40M

ggx2ac · Oct 15, 2017

Just posting my receipts since I said I expected this and showing why I expected BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle to hit Switch and not a Central Fiction port or Central Fiction Extend version as some people suggested.

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?p=243756300&highlight=#post243756300

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?p=244053216&highlight=#post244053216

D.Lo · Oct 15, 2017

Celine said:
Not matching DQXI isn't a problem.

But selling a well over a million less than the previous game isn't a 'slight decline' either. Sure it may have at least 'hit series baseline' or whatever, but it's still well down from the last three entries (way down on the last one), despite releasing two very different versions on the same day.

test_account · Oct 15, 2017

ggx2ac said:
RE7 failing forecasts while re-releases of old games which bring in less revenue in comparison does not make it a "great success" for Capcom.

The re-releases were successful I have no problem with that.

RE7 not making its forecast and even doing worse currently this financial year? I wouldn't call it a success for Capcom.

Combining both? No way would I call it a "great success" for Capcom.

Fair enough, i see what you mean.

Vena said:
RE7's not doing very well by the general metric of RE, and its undershooting forecasts something fierce, and the Gold release isn't likely to get it near its additional 2mil target for this FY. Game reviewed well but it was still met with a divisive response and ~40-50% of your RE5/6 audience didn't show up.

The remaster releases at 20$-30$ aren't going to be lighting your revenue stream on fire. They sold great, but they are also not making you a ton of money even for their minimal investment requirements, so the RoI is going to be low (for equally low investment).

Its kind of hard to look at this situation and consider it "great" in any capacity.

casiopao said:
Port is always small cost small gain venture. The biggest thing will always be the new big Numbered title and in the case of RE, 7 dissapoint and unless 8 can come out to stop this decline, the franchise will remain in threat.

I'm not sure if selling nearly 3 million copies (correct me if i'm wrong) at those prices are exactly small gains. All is relative of course, but still.

But fair enough to not call the overall perfomance for great if we consider that RE7 sold less than expected, i agree to that, but i dont think its fair to say that its delusional when looking at how much all the different games sold in total.

silpheed-mcd · Oct 15, 2017

Celine said:
DQXI is the second best selling non-Nintendo game ever in Japan.

I don't think so, not yet.

Celine · Oct 15, 2017

D.Lo said:
But selling a well over a million less than the previous game isn't a 'slight decline' either. Sure it may have at least 'hit series baseline' or whatever, but it's still well down from the last three entries (way down on the last one), despite releasing two very different versions on the same day.

MH4 selling less than MHP3 isn't a problem nor a surprise (I take this example cause MHP3 is the best selling non-Nintendo game ever in Japan).
A 30 years old series still selling 3M+ for each mainline game is a good sign because there is no guarantee that a franchise that hit big sales in the (distant) past nowadays can still match those lofty sales (case in point Final Fantasy).
Hitting a historical 'series baseline' is very important because it shows the state of health of a franchise.

silpheed-mcd said:
I don't think so, not yet.

Meant DQIX, of course.
Fixed.

Zedark · Oct 15, 2017

silpheed-mcd said:
I don't think so, not yet.

I think he's talking about DQIX, and mixed up the roman numerals.

ggx2ac · Oct 15, 2017

Zedark said:
I think he's talking about DQXI, and mixed up the roman numerals.

You did too.

DQIX.

silpheed-mcd · Oct 15, 2017

Zedark said:
I think he's talking about DQXI, and mixed up the roman numerals.

Again

Edit: Ok Celine

Zedark · Oct 15, 2017

ggx2ac said:
You did too.

DQIX.

Lol damn. My autocorrect changes DQIX to DQXI! Sorry.

BrokenJohnCena · Oct 15, 2017

Will Nintendo release a new 2D Mario game in 2018?I think it could be a big 2018 title for them

silpheed-mcd · Oct 15, 2017

When we think DQIX DS is 14th and Monster Hunter Freedom 3 PSP 11th...damn nintendo, share! lol

Celine · Oct 15, 2017

silpheed-mcd said:
When we think DQIX DS is 14th and Monster Hunter Freedom 3 PSP 11th...damn nintendo, share! lol

That's the reason I refrain to write "best selling third-party game" and instead write "non-Nintendo" since in the Top 60 best-selling games ever in Japan the only first-party games present are from Nintendo (I include Pokemon Co. since it make sense).
Nintendo is the elephant in the room when talking about the japanese dedicated videogame industry.
Of the 44 games that sold 3 million units or more in Japan since 1983 (the real beginning of the japanese console industry), 30 are from Nintendo (again I include Pokémon Co.).
The rest 14 games are from 4 third-party publishers (Square, Enix, Capcom, Level-5) based on their utmost strongest franchise (Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Monster Hunter and Yo-kai Watch).

Lonely1 · Oct 15, 2017

ggx2ac said:
Just posting my receipts since I said I expected this and showing why I expected BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle to hit Switch and not a Central Fiction port or Central Fiction Extend version as some people suggested.

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?p=243756300&highlight=#post243756300

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?p=244053216&highlight=#post244053216

I'm out of the loop here. What would have been better?

Heartskips · Oct 15, 2017

Lonely1 said:
I'm out of the loop here. What would have been better?

The new game for sure. It's what most people would prefer, I think. It's also a multiplat release and not just an old port.

I would like a port more just because I don't really care about the other characters besides BB, but I'm still happy for the effort.

WestEgg · Oct 15, 2017

BrokenJohnCena said:
Will Nintendo release a new 2D Mario game in 2018?I think it could be a big 2018 title for them

I'd be interested to see if they keep or drop the "New Super Mario Bros" branding. With Odyssey coming, people who would normally throw shade at the "New" Series for taking the place of a proper 3D Mario will be placated, and I think it's really only in communities like GAF that the "New" series has received a stigma as a sterile series.

Mario Maker Switch is more likely in my opinion.

BrokenJohnCena · Oct 15, 2017

WestEgg said:
I'd be interested to see if they keep or drop the "New Super Mario Bros" branding. With Odyssey coming, people who would normally throw shade at the "New" Series for taking the place of a proper 3D Mario will be placated, and I think it's really only in communities like GAF that the "New" series has received a stigma as a sterile series.

Mario Maker Switch is more likely in my opinion.

I think a reboot for the 2D series with a different brand name would be good also,something like Super Mario World

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