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Media Create Sales: Week 47, 2013 (Nov 18 - Nov 24)
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pieatorium
Member
wiiu games with the best fw to ltd multipliers so far are (famitsu)
nintendoland 4.6
nsmbu 3.75
nslu 3.0
3dworld would need a 4.67 multiplier to break 500k
I wonder if eventually people will stop looking to predict wiiu performance based on wii/ds/3ds history.
There has been a couple of "milestones" talked about for wiiu's 2013 total. One being it's 2012 total (4 weeks of sales) the other being the vitas 2012 total.
Prior to 3dworld bombing i thought it would pass them but now i think it might not even get there.
It's not 3D world nor it's Wii U. It's the Japanese market that is losing interest in platformer as a whole, along with gaming console itself. Of course WiiU install base tanking isn't helping either.
Good lord, what would that thing look like.
I think the current 2DS screen is large enough to display a 2DS XL screen if they took out the plastic casing covering the screen currently. It'd be fugly, but cheap as heck to produce.
michaelius
Banned
Number is irrelevant as long as that userbase refuses to buy 3rd party games when they are releassed.
Hey, they bought MonHun 3G, and that was a port of a port.
Time for Shiggy to leave. Time for him to rest.
But he has to reveal that new ip of his first.
michaelius
Banned
That was also worst performance for MH3 game on any platform
It's bundled with nearly every Wii U sold - if you look at MC number which doesn't track download cards the standalone version jumped by few hundreds pcs maybe.
Aquamarine
Member
Yeah, I'm a subscriber. That summary captures the gist of it.
That joke is getting really old. I also don't see how it relates to what I wrote. Unlike a heat wave the used market and lack of 3rd party games / steady releases will not go away. Wii U is in a terrible spot to sell to core gamers.
Price still is a big hurdle, definitely. Yet the casual market remains more viable than the core market, as seen in the slightly less terrible results.
It will take time for the price to go down but casual gamers will likely stay with their Wii in the meantime. Unless Sony can win some with the PS4.
Well I was under the impression power consumption was even lower than that but if they will turn the Wii U into a handheld they will have to further optimize hardware obviously. Maybe it's not really a possibility after all.The WiiU is low power, but for a handheld device it is insanely high power. A tablet usually peaks at 8 watts while the WiiU uses 32 watts. If they somehow managed to to lower that to 22 watts including the screen it would drain the iPad 4 battery (43Wh) in just under two hours and need fan cooling similar to a laptop (slim ultrabooks have 17W CPUs). The iPad 4 is pretty much a battery with a screen under the hood:
It's a modern day Saturn and the faster Nintendo makes a Dreamcast the better.
But I wasn't the one to suggest it here anyway. The general idea must be that all the recent Nintendo handhelds were based on former console hardware and 3DS is already the same processor family as Wii and Wii U. What duckroll was suggesting is different in that it'd be for the first time the actual console as a handheld. A step up but still in the same vein what Nintendo already have been doing for 2 gens now.
Even if the "DSU" proves to be impossible on a technological level I still see a Wii U Lite (with better gamepad also sold seperately to previous Wii U owners) and a 3DS player as likely.
I agree. If they were serious about the core market the price would have been okay but hardware specs were not. They'd have needed something powerful enough to make it feel next gen to core early adopters and more importantly something devs can produce something exciting with little effort. HD ports should be easy at least and allow some noticable upgrades.
For casual gamers the console is too expensive and doesn't offer anything new to wow them either. It doesn't really matter if you wow core gamers with graphics and complex gameplay or casuals with something innovative and fun, you need to have something to convince either group to buy the console first.
What Nintendo is doing now is to have a selection of games that as a whole will make the console interesting enough for families. A completely new title (instead of just Party and Club) would definitely have helped too.
For core gamers, their best strategy is actually MMO games with monthly subscriptions. If you have less games you have to make them interesting enough that gamers will be content with just the one or two games they end up playing on the console. This is why MHFG will be important despite likely unimpressive sales. Also DQX despite slow growth.
To a lesser extent DLC can work the same way.
shinra-bansho
Member
Bundled.
Pretty much. The Wii U's titles have not shown similar legs to their predecessors. I can see it breaking 300K from that opening, but think it will be a long time before it breaks 500K if it does.
Ghost of Laguna, don't post if you are okay.
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on a serious note, as gimmicky as that app is, i'd love if they did it with other famous places around the world. and not just museums
What is really impressive is that in its second month MH4 still has almost as many downloads as Pokémon X/Y which just released. I guess shortages could still have been responsible, need to wait for November numbers.
It is IP locked though (edit: and region locked based on the smart phone as well).
Aquamarine
Member
Or anyone with an unlocked phone and a SIM-card spoofer. ;-)
But yeah, I'll remove that terminology.
michaelius
Banned
Well your explanation was as likely as heat waves so i added them for an increased effect.
Are you serious? You know the buy back prices are high enough for hardware as well, so that the used market works as a rental substitute for both software and hardware? The only thing stopping people from buying used is that they might not want to wait for a game to become available there. Nothing stops them from selling it, even if they bought new. Wii U consoles were obviously already available used when 3D World came out.
This was cited for 360 and Vita. I've seen in it for Gamecube and other hardware when I was in Kyoto for a year in 2002/3. I don't really see why it shouldn't have happened for Wii or isn't now happening for Wii U.
Yeah I have a hard time seeing that, 300k as most at the end of the year
Sammy Samusu
Member
Comgnet launch points:
Mirai - 272 (88,737)
Mirai 2 - 212
Toriko Battle - 51 (12,709)
Toriko Monster - 156 (34,430)
Toriko Ultimate - 49
Assassin's Creed 3 - 196 (85,918)
Assassin's Creed 4 - 98
Mirai - 272 (88,737)
Mirai 2 - 212
Toriko Battle - 51 (12,709)
Toriko Monster - 156 (34,430)
Toriko Ultimate - 49
Assassin's Creed 3 - 196 (85,918)
Assassin's Creed 4 - 98
Monster Hunter 4: 35pt > 43pt Rise this is the beginning etc etc.
I'm late this week:
[3DS] Hatsune Miku: Project Mirai 2 + New Colors
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/Captura_zps5775c13b.png
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/2_zps366c7ace.png
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/1_zps13d5b40e.png
[PS3] [360] [WIU] Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/9_zps922c1d2f.png
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/10_zpscaf77f1b.png
[PS3] [PSV] Dynasty Warriors 8 with Xtreme Legends
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/4_zps899e6bab.png
[PS3] Super Robot Wars OG: Infinite Battle
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/5_zps00165f60.png
[PSV] Criminal Girls: Invitation
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/3_zpsf7ceb42f.png
[3DS] Toriko: Ultimate Survival
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/6_zps0132c321.png
[3DS] Kamen Rider: Travelers Senki
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/7_zps6f643f33.png
[WIU] [3DS] Disney Infinity: Starter Pack
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/8_zps0333ccf9.png
[3DS] Hatsune Miku: Project Mirai 2 + New Colors
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/Captura_zps5775c13b.png
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/2_zps366c7ace.png
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/1_zps13d5b40e.png
[PS3] [360] [WIU] Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/9_zps922c1d2f.png
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/10_zpscaf77f1b.png
[PS3] [PSV] Dynasty Warriors 8 with Xtreme Legends
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/4_zps899e6bab.png
[PS3] Super Robot Wars OG: Infinite Battle
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/5_zps00165f60.png
[PSV] Criminal Girls: Invitation
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/3_zpsf7ceb42f.png
[3DS] Toriko: Ultimate Survival
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/6_zps0132c321.png
[3DS] Kamen Rider: Travelers Senki
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/7_zps6f643f33.png
[WIU] [3DS] Disney Infinity: Starter Pack
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/8_zps0333ccf9.png
What about 3 million in 5 days? =P
Anyway, SE isn't getting any money since it's free. Let's see how the most unappealing product I've seen in ages aka DQVIII on smartphones performs.
The app itself is not region locked -- I have downloaded it. The apk is region locked on the Play store, but it is still as easy to download as one click if your SIM card is not from Japan.
Imagine if they did a Disneyland one.
You take that back! DQ 8 was a great game, and you can't tell me otherwise! ;_;
It'll be interesting to see if the Wii U can hold steady in Japan this week.
I've noticed it creeping up the charts on Amazon Japan the last few days. Last week it was at the lower end of the charts..but both the black and white bundles are currently in the top 40 (which is a rarity).
I've noticed it creeping up the charts on Amazon Japan the last few days. Last week it was at the lower end of the charts..but both the black and white bundles are currently in the top 40 (which is a rarity).
Good to hear. How/where did you download it though?　Edit: Never mind, found it.
metalslimer
Member
It better. It is not a stretch to think that the system will stay where it's at until post New Year's.
Japan+Asia
https://twitter.com/kazamatsuri/status/407804573718302721
It's in the OP, 593.370 for PS3
Principate
Saint Titanfall
I'm personally guessing Puzzle and Dragons won't have too much issue reaching 1 million, in sales considering how consistent it's been at or near the top of pre-order charts for a while. I wonder if it sees significant success if they'll be an influx on popular smartphone games on the 3DS or handhelds in general.
I mean if you really think about it there's no reason there shouldn't be. Angry birds despite being ridiculously cheap on smartphones is still the most popular third party game on the 3ds outside of Japan. Considering how much higher the revenue on the 3DS is in comparison to a sale on smart phones there's no way rovio didn't laugh all the way to the bank on that venture.
Chances theres significant overlap between smartphones and handheld devices especially in Japan. Smart phone games and handheld games really aren't all that dissimilar. I think there's a lot of profit to be made from selling premium versions of their smartphone games on handhelds, a market trained to spend a lot more up front on a single game.
I mean if you really think about it there's no reason there shouldn't be. Angry birds despite being ridiculously cheap on smartphones is still the most popular third party game on the 3ds outside of Japan. Considering how much higher the revenue on the 3DS is in comparison to a sale on smart phones there's no way rovio didn't laugh all the way to the bank on that venture.
Chances theres significant overlap between smartphones and handheld devices especially in Japan. Smart phone games and handheld games really aren't all that dissimilar. I think there's a lot of profit to be made from selling premium versions of their smartphone games on handhelds, a market trained to spend a lot more up front on a single game.
Dragon's Crown 800k
Persona 4 Golden 700k
shipped worldwide including DL.
http://indexweb.jp/news/2013/10706.html
http://indexweb.jp/news/2013/10707.html
Persona 4 Golden 700k
shipped worldwide including DL.
http://indexweb.jp/news/2013/10706.html
http://indexweb.jp/news/2013/10707.html
1st Course
Member
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Seems like Dragon Crown sold really well in the west.
Seems like Dragon Crown sold really well in the west.
michaelius
Banned
Digital sales must be huge in west.
I remember P4G was around 100k when someone leaked NPD numbers
I remember P4G was around 100k when someone leaked NPD numbers
Well, someone who thinks that SM3DW will break 500k certainly will also think that release timing matters. You are ignoring that factor in your list, however. It makes a difference whether a game is released during the holiday period and the console's launch hype or right before the year-end period starts. Sales are always higher during the holiday period, so that software released during that time period will likely also start with higher fw sales. A game that is being released shortly before sales tend to pick up, will have a slower start but is likely to have continious legs during the holiday period.
We can expect that SM3DW will continue selling a respectable sum each week for the next month. Whether or not it's enough to hit 500k eventually will depend on whether or not Japanese people will give a shit about the Wii U next month (and there are enough reasons to be pessimistic and think that they won't be all that interested).
I thought only the first million was free? So that they got 500yen (minus Google's and Apple's share) per sale for the next 2 million sales.
So 3DS LLs include AC Adapters now? How long has that been going on
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Wait why don't the European ones then. They should have added that thing a long ass time ago.
Just these two colors have AC adapters. And they're limited, only will be sold this christmas.
michaelius
Banned
Nintendo added value bundle confirmed.
it's actually doing really well... Divine Gate only got 1 million download in a month and that's the successor to PAD.
http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/sp/english/news/html/e131204.html
What's the highest selling Monster Hunter to date? At this rate it just sounds like MH4 will take that title within 12 months.
What's the highest selling Monster Hunter to date? At this rate it just sounds like MH4 will take that title within 12 months.
DQ plus mobile = money, money, money. I wonder how DQ10 will do once its on ioS.
The free download has been extended until December 10th, as mentioned in Aquamarine's original post about the game: