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Michael Pachter - Gamepass will destroy Sony. Sony will cease to exist.
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Bernd Lauert
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Wtf I love Michael Pachter now
TLZ
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THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
That's not what needs to happen, they just need a similar product at a similar price.
They have the games to compete.
anothertech
Member
Boo this man.
BOOO
BOOO
Sega Orphan
Banned
On top of this he actually said that in the next 10-15 years there won't be any consoles, but will be cloud based with a little Streaming box or adapter.
This is where he thinks Amazon is going to come in.
This is where he thinks Amazon is going to come in.
freefornow
Gold Member
Man, I love Gamepass, but just no. Sony has it's own strategy in the Gaming space and will be more than fine.
ZoukGalaxy
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Banjo64
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MatrixReloaded101
Member
That Dementia is probably kicking in…
If he actually said what is in the thread title he is insane
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If he actually said what is in the thread title he is insane
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
MS will be fine. Sony will be fine. Nintendo will be fine.
It's a CrapDealer podcast; Pachter's just dancing his tongue for the audience. I think he gets a kick out of being outrageously wrong at this point.
lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
Things changed.
old IP may sell today but it may not sell in the future.
He is assuming Activisiton IP is going to boost gamepass subscription count i assume? seems like a big assumption to me.
And if im not mistaken, isnt PS Plus has reached almost 50m subscribers? i doubt Sony is afraid tbh, and spartacus is coming soon. I mean...Sony is not going to stop there either.
Furthermore even Sony unable to afford big publishers, they still can buy smaller studios in bulk to make up for it, nothing special here.
Im more interested in games like SIFU, Kena than Activision "IPs".
old IP may sell today but it may not sell in the future.
He is assuming Activisiton IP is going to boost gamepass subscription count i assume? seems like a big assumption to me.
And if im not mistaken, isnt PS Plus has reached almost 50m subscribers? i doubt Sony is afraid tbh, and spartacus is coming soon. I mean...Sony is not going to stop there either.
Furthermore even Sony unable to afford big publishers, they still can buy smaller studios in bulk to make up for it, nothing special here.
Im more interested in games like SIFU, Kena than Activision "IPs".
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Venom Snake
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The Pleasure
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How many times has patcher been wrong? If patcher and his sony predictions were JoJo series, are we on the Golden Wind saga or the Steel Ball Run?
TheInfamousKira
Reseterror Resettler
This dude reminds me of that guy in Off Topic that suddenly had a schizophrenic episode about non Newtonian bullshit and capitalized every word in his sentences. Don't know why, but super same vibe.
But the Prophet Pachter hath spoken. So shall the black sea of Sony be cleaved and broken upon the shore of it's own hubris. Lo and unto thee the viridiscent vermin shall plague your houses and thou shalt harken to the subscription services. The Lord hath condemned your Uncharteds and God of Wars and he shall moldeth ye into a Halo player. Amen.
supernova8
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TheGodfather07
Member
Lol he doesn't have a rep for getting everything wrong for no reason. Literally everything too. I don't think he ever made a correct prediction. He was also one of the guys saying sony was doomed before the ps4 gen.
Yoboman
Member
“Look, I think Nintendo is just out of touch,” he said. “I mean, I think they have no idea what they’re doing. The software is great, and the marketing people are really great at doing what they can with the product they have.
“But the Switch is way too late. What really happened is, they completely whiffed on Wii U and, had the Switch come out when the Wii U came out, I think they would have been in the lead this cycle. It didn’t. They launched the Switch way late, and it’s priced too high, so the Switch costs the same as a PS4, and if you, really, you’re only gonna get one console, why would you get a Switch over a PS4? Answer: you love Nintendo first-party titles. But short of that? No, you won’t. I think you get it in addition to a PS4. But I don’t think you get it instead of a PS4. You’re not gonna get it to play all the games that you can on the PS4. So I think they already blew it in this cycle.”
“So, when you talk about what’s gonna change, Nintendo is a backward-looking company,” he continued. “They manage by looking in the rear-view mirror at their past success. Their ex-CEO Kimishima committed to 20 million Switches this year; they’re tracking to do 8 million. They’re missing by a mile. Their new CEO, starting at the end of May, Furukawa, I’ve never met the guy. We’ll see what he says. But the fact is, it’s priced too high to sell 20 million a year; the Wii sold 20 million a year and was priced at $199, and then $149. This thing needs to drop to $199 to have a chance of selling this kind of numbers.”
“But the Switch is way too late. What really happened is, they completely whiffed on Wii U and, had the Switch come out when the Wii U came out, I think they would have been in the lead this cycle. It didn’t. They launched the Switch way late, and it’s priced too high, so the Switch costs the same as a PS4, and if you, really, you’re only gonna get one console, why would you get a Switch over a PS4? Answer: you love Nintendo first-party titles. But short of that? No, you won’t. I think you get it in addition to a PS4. But I don’t think you get it instead of a PS4. You’re not gonna get it to play all the games that you can on the PS4. So I think they already blew it in this cycle.”
“So, when you talk about what’s gonna change, Nintendo is a backward-looking company,” he continued. “They manage by looking in the rear-view mirror at their past success. Their ex-CEO Kimishima committed to 20 million Switches this year; they’re tracking to do 8 million. They’re missing by a mile. Their new CEO, starting at the end of May, Furukawa, I’ve never met the guy. We’ll see what he says. But the fact is, it’s priced too high to sell 20 million a year; the Wii sold 20 million a year and was priced at $199, and then $149. This thing needs to drop to $199 to have a chance of selling this kind of numbers.”
DJ12
Member
No I mean MS gamepass.
MS aren't even after beating Sony anymore. Bigger fish to fry.
THE DUCK
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I think they still care, the larger portion of the sandbox that is neutral (pc) or owned by them xbox and cloud gaming) the larger profits can be realized. Being at Sony or nintendo's whims for what percentage they have to give up on playstation or switch isn't the end game. (With exception, there is the odd game they are willing to go multiplatform on like minecraft)
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Airbus Jr
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He is always way offI respect pachter but he is way off in this. It will take more like 20 years
Every prediction he made always turns out the opposite direction it is known and common thing happened for him
Thats why hes a laughing stock on the internet
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DJ12
Member
70% of something is better than 100% of nothing.
We are not talking small numbers here that can be ignored to 'win' some console war for your fans that you personally (as in MS not you) don't even care about anymore.
crunchyBiscuits
Member
You know what would be really sobering? If, by some odd twist of fate, he turns out to be right. He's had so many wrong takes, we automatically write him off but WHAT IF lol
Anyway, wouldn't want Sony/MS/Ninty to disappear at all
Anyway, wouldn't want Sony/MS/Ninty to disappear at all
hemo memo
Gold Member
More wrong than right I believe regarding video games.
TwiztidElf
Member
Only one of my 2021 top 5 games was on an Xbox console.
Until that changes (shrug).
Until that changes (shrug).
abacab driver
Banned
The salt.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
I actually agree with him on this.
Soon, you won't be able to purchase games either physically or via a digital download. The only way you'll be able to play games and access your library from previous generations is via a streaming and subscription service combo.
BaneIsPain
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K2D
Banned
Games are for the foreseeable future better technically, run locally. No compression, no delay or denial of service (though Gran Turismo 7 wants to say otherwise).
There will always be a market, and the amount of people seeking those markets out will rise if gaming in general leanes towards streaming.
Bo_Hazem
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Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Congrats Sony, that Patcher kiss of doom just guaranteed double digit growth for a decade.
Leyasu
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I don’t believe this. There will always be a market for the home console. Streaming will never replace playing locally. Even if all of the copper lines were removed and replaced with fibre the world over, there would still be quirks that impact the experience.
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