Mattyp
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They have an advertising contract, they have no contract that stops activison giving away their games on gamepass because they never could of for-seen that.
Day one on gamepass you better prepare yourself.
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Microsoft CEO: Xbox Series X|S Has Outsold PS5 in NA for 3 Qtrs in a Row. Sales tracking ahead of 360.
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They have an advertising contract, they have no contract that stops activison giving away their games on gamepass because they never could of for-seen that.
Day one on gamepass you better prepare yourself.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yes, how dare they talk about growth and success in a *checks note* investors report.
I Master l
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You should be proud of Sweden becoming the 51-st state of US
RyanEvans21
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I dont think its not coming to Gamepass? but im sure its coming to sony console. i have both console so i might try it before i buy it.
nominedomine
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I'm not playing your games bro, that's the difference between you and me. I don't keep track of who each person is or what they like or dislike and don't try to get anyone banned and I rarely report anyone. I just give my honest opinion if that is too much to some people, that's not my problem, they are very reasonable and acceptable views.
There is something weird about the way you are talking to me, I don't like it, very ominous, real bad vibes. You seem to know me but I don't know you.
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Fredrik
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Not that new actually, been here since 2005…Oh....it seems you are new.
Isn't the engagement lower this quarter.
That’s just PR. Everybody does it, in some way or form.
ChorizoPicozo
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Super mega lol. Yes I know. I just had a conversation about this in the other thread.
And that was my point.
Klayzer
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No problem spokesman.
Sleepwalker
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Canada.
My US psn account actually has received about 3-4 invitations to buy one this year. Last one was last month. Hope you get one soon.
Kagey K
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Canada, .ca is a Canadian URL, up here there's been at least 1 store that has them in stock for the last 2 months. You just have to keep your eyes open and you can get one easily. I posted the link on the 1st page (post 47) to pick one up right now for any Canadian interested.
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Magic Carpet
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I can visit the Lego factory without a Visa!
edit : Wait that's Denmark isn't it.
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Salty Popsicle
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Record pacing sales while first-party output has been sparse so far is an extremely good sign for the Xbox brand. It seems GamePass has been enticing millions of people who may not have considered an Xbox in prior generations and the numbers can only get better from here considering 2023 seems to be a packed year for Microsoft Game Studios.
RyanEvans21
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OK! i got one already (Thanks to wario64) but planning to retire my PS4 Pro.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Starfield, Redfall and Motorsport and more within the first half (pending any more delays) is an incredible schedule after a sparse 2022.
Should add a nice jolt to their reports, especially if the Acti deal closes by then.
Kagey K
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Stahp. I can't even keep up with releases as it is during this "dead" year. Now you want to pile all that on too?
THE DUCK
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I'd love to see supply meet demand on all consoles so more gamers coukd benefit from competition and price. By now, in a normal generation, either the ps5 or series x would have dropped $100 in an attempt to gain market. And series S would have launched at $249.
DavidGzz
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Man, they must be thirsty in central Ill for consoles cause I never see all these Xboxes that are readily available everywhere else. I walk by the game section often and I've only seen a Series S twice. PS5 and Series X may as well not exist. Anyway, this gen should be interesting. I remember discussing sales with certain fanboys before this gen started as they claimed PS5 would outsell Xbox 3:1 if not 5:1. Funny shit.
AetherZX
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Little known secret to a Series X is to buy the refurb models that are regularly in stock on the MS store.
Nocturno999
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I'm glad because MS offering turned up to be a much better product in hardware and services.
Even though the shill gaming media and Digital Foundry lack the balls to say it like it is.
Even though the shill gaming media and Digital Foundry lack the balls to say it like it is.
RyanEvans21
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Check your local Target! you might find series x there. I got mine like 2 weeks ago. Also if you planning to subscribe to Game Pass? Cdkeys selling 3 months for $25.
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Magic Carpet
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Price Drops? Will anything ever drop in price again? I only see it going up up up.
Even the price of the local carwash went up 2 bucks.
OuterLimits
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Quite a few people just want to buy a system to play the few big 3rd party games they are interested in. They will buy the system that is more readily available.
DavidGzz
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Thanks, guys! I got my XSX and PS5 on launch day, I just walk by a lot cause I get curious and bored. I do grocery shopping almost daily for fruit, yogurt, protein bars, etc. Also, hell yeah I have Game Pass. I did the three year trick a while ago.
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Sosokrates
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Why you take issue? The S and X are the same platform.
AetherZX
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You know why: console warrior copium and nothing else.
THE DUCK
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Price Drops? Will anything ever drop in price again? I only see it going up up up.
Even the price of the local carwash went up 2 bucks.
I know, wistfully thinking. How about this then.......the value of money drops, but the consoles stay the same price? Effectively makes them cheaper right? Lol
Sosokrates
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In 2027 when we are approaching the end of the generation I think install bases are going to be rather similar between PS5 and XBOX series.
Sosokrates
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And all it took them was to buy half the industry for themselves. Congrats Microsoft
We have barely seen any of the fruits from Microsofts acquisitions yet. The SeriesX/S's success is down to the decisions they have made for the platform and services they have introduced.
Bernd Lauert
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Calverz
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There’s two ps5 variants though.
JerryinSoCal
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Not going to happen, I'm sure it'll be closer than last gen but nobody should be acting as if Sony isn't the favorite yet again, the fact is they can't make enough consoles while Xbox consoles are on store shelves everywhere, the series S specifically, the series x can still be pretty tough to find for periods of time.
pasterpl
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why should we care about Sony inability to secure stock? Why this should be a factor. It has nothing to do with ms. And since when switch is next gen platform? Troll harder.
Kagey K
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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On the one hand good on the brand for being able to have a variety of market conditions, internal and external, to allow them to make such a claim. The numbers don't lie.
But those numbers definitely come with some caveats, which you aren't going to get from Nadella in a Twitter post. We know about the rumors Microsoft paid for chip priority probably around the summer of last year, when they were stocking up Azure servers with Series X blades to revamp some stuff with GamePass. We know they have less global markets to satisfy demand for, meaning less consoles in those markets they need to supply. That allows them to pump stock into the few markets where demand is particularly high for the product, America being one of them.
When you've already got a limited amount of systems to supply, having the majority of your demand concentrated in a small handful of markets is a hidden benefit. But something else to keep in mind is that MS seem to be ramping down hardware sales forecasts. I don't know how long, how many quarters that's for, but comparatively, Sony have their supply shipments set up and they're pretty much expecting to make up for the shortfall earlier this year with H2, in Q3 & Q4 especially. And, I suspect that'll allow for a lot more units to NA (hell, it's to the point I may be able to easily pick up a system through PS Direct, tho I'm holding out for a non-bundle).
So yeah, good play on MS & Xbox for being smart with their supply and having enough in NA to take the last few quarters in terms of next-gen console sales. However, I don't expect it to last much longer and most people are probably of the same mind.
But those numbers definitely come with some caveats, which you aren't going to get from Nadella in a Twitter post. We know about the rumors Microsoft paid for chip priority probably around the summer of last year, when they were stocking up Azure servers with Series X blades to revamp some stuff with GamePass. We know they have less global markets to satisfy demand for, meaning less consoles in those markets they need to supply. That allows them to pump stock into the few markets where demand is particularly high for the product, America being one of them.
When you've already got a limited amount of systems to supply, having the majority of your demand concentrated in a small handful of markets is a hidden benefit. But something else to keep in mind is that MS seem to be ramping down hardware sales forecasts. I don't know how long, how many quarters that's for, but comparatively, Sony have their supply shipments set up and they're pretty much expecting to make up for the shortfall earlier this year with H2, in Q3 & Q4 especially. And, I suspect that'll allow for a lot more units to NA (hell, it's to the point I may be able to easily pick up a system through PS Direct, tho I'm holding out for a non-bundle).
So yeah, good play on MS & Xbox for being smart with their supply and having enough in NA to take the last few quarters in terms of next-gen console sales. However, I don't expect it to last much longer and most people are probably of the same mind.
pasterpl
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Funny when you think that ms acquired zenimax after Sony bought exclusivity for deathloop and ghost wire and wanted to moneyhat starfield. Ms also moved on actiblizzard and we know that Sony moneyhatted cod for years now. So would you agree that anytime Sony is in the lead it is because its moneyhatted half the industry?And all it took them was to buy half the industry for themselves. Congrats Microsoft
point being, both companies doing this shit (Sony less acquisitions but it is only because they are much smaller than ms).
pasterpl
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So ps4pro and Xbox one x sales should not be counted into Xbox one and ps4 sales numbers?
DenchDeckard
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But xbox is doomed, is on the way out and Microsoft will probably pull the plug soon, right?
DenchDeckard
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Playstation 5 digital and disk should be split too tbh, if we are splitting skus. They are different tbh. Switch oled, light and standard should ge split too.
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kraspkibble
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well done MS.
the Series line of consoles are brilliant and gamepass is insane value.
the Series line of consoles are brilliant and gamepass is insane value.
93xfan
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Same generation, so why would it matter if there are 2 SKUs?
Please show your work the next time you attempt any math.
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Deerock71
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You act as if there aren't external forces that are going to drive down the demand for consoles globally. Inflation is real, as is supply chain disruption. The driving up of the price of food and gas is going to make the masses realize how disposable video games are, and quickly.
Lupin25
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What are the lifetime numbers for all consoles? (If haven’t seen either at a store.)
The differences are negligible when it comes to output and hardware (outside of the disk drive). That’s why the PS5 Standard / DE is one SKU. That’s a different scenario than the Series S / X.
The differences are negligible when it comes to output and hardware (outside of the disk drive). That’s why the PS5 Standard / DE is one SKU. That’s a different scenario than the Series S / X.
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crackajack
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Seems like it. Series S is permanently available to order, even always a few percent off, Sony should just have done something like a PS4 platinum slim too, Series X was at least available twice, once for a couple of days. I have not seen a PS5 for regular prices ever and I guess Prime members have at least a small chance at the rare drops. I am not really looking just checking now and then though.
Riky
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Great news, Series outselling 360 in its biggest market justifies the amount of money invested in the Xbox ecosystem, really all the benefit even from the Bethesda acquisition is still to come and that's before Activision closes.
I see we're back to the but but Series S doesn't count crying, hilarious just how much salt and tears the little box has caused. Not one of these people thought PS4 Pro should be counted separately, funny that.
Just wait until they see Forza Motorsport running on it.
Phil Spencer has done an incredible job even though they have had a rough time getting software out this year, but that should all fall into place over the next year.
It will be a tougher market with recession looming but the forward thinking Series S and Gamepass value may be the right products at the right time.
I see we're back to the but but Series S doesn't count crying, hilarious just how much salt and tears the little box has caused. Not one of these people thought PS4 Pro should be counted separately, funny that.
Just wait until they see Forza Motorsport running on it.
Phil Spencer has done an incredible job even though they have had a rough time getting software out this year, but that should all fall into place over the next year.
It will be a tougher market with recession looming but the forward thinking Series S and Gamepass value may be the right products at the right time.
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BadBurger
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First, entire restocks of PlayStation 5's still sell out in seconds so clearly demand for them has not dissipated one bit.
Second, I didn't deny anything nor did I mention inflation. If that's a theory of yours then present it that way. I'll just mention that inflation isn't affecting all households the same way (example: we haven't had to adjust our spending habits or vacation plans one bit), and prices for various commodities will be more in some parts of the world than they are in others; gasoline prices in my area never increased nearly as much as I saw elsewhere, and was already back to normal a few weeks ago. In fact overall prices for energy and food in the US is lower than they are in many European countries.
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